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[Hurricanes/Tropical Storms] - Katia turns away, Nate in Mexico, Maria in Atlantic

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    ElJeffe wrote:
    Could part of the problem be that this area just isn't designed with hurricanes in mind? Sort of like it wasn't designed with 5.9 earthquakes in mind? I don't know how southeastern architecture differs from northeastern architecture in things like disaster preparedness.

    It's similar to what happened with hurricane Ivan and hurricane Frances in 2004. They moved up through the Appalachian mountains and while they didn't still have the wind power they had when they first hit the coast, they dumped nearly 40 inches of rain combined in less than 10 days in some places. In the mountains, all that water goes downhill, and takes anything that isn't the mountain. A 400 foot section of roadway that I used to get to my college literally washed down the mountain, small creeks and rivers cut hundred foot wide paths and took bridges along with them.

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  • LanzLanz Registered User regular
    Speaking of hurricanes, does anyone know how Katia's shaping up?

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    Lanz wrote:
    Speaking of hurricanes, does anyone know how Katia's shaping up?

    The most recent report is there's a good chance it will follow Irene's path.

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  • AumniAumni Registered User regular
    I like in the middle of CT (right next to Middletown), next to a state forest. The biggest issue we really had to deal with was having 80% of our roads closed due to down trees and power lines. I think a handle of people in CT were killed, thankfully more weren't.

    Several trees fell in my backyard, crushed a few fences and closed off our street. We had a well so with no electricity meant no water, though we had filled buckets with water and stored them in the bathroom for washing/flushing. Funny thing is those barrels were originally used for pickles...so we were starting to smell like pickles. Overall we didn't have it too bad. No power/water for 4.5 days and no major damage to the house/vehicles.

    Seeing those pictures from Alyce and the others is an eye opener - stay safe all!

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Registered User regular
    ElJeffe, we don't get rain like that. The reason there is do much flooding here in Vermont has been said - lots of mountains, lots of valleys, and lots of small rivers running through them. Plus, the ground had already been saturated from previous rains. Already soft ground means the sitting and rushing water washes away roads, and lots of water moving into river valleys means danger to bridges.

    To the person who says Katia is following the same track, so far it doesn't look the same, but it's too early to tell. If that happens.. Ugh. I don't even want to think about it at this point, but I know we'll be staying somewhere else.

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  • matt has a problemmatt has a problem Six pack on a dick Registered User regular
    Ah ok, the one I saw a few hours ago was saying a potential New York landfall, the new update makes it look like it's just going to go back out to sea.

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  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong and a cast of thousands Registered User regular
    Lanz wrote:
    Speaking of hurricanes, does anyone know how Katia's shaping up?

    The most recent report is there's a good chance it will follow Irene's path.

    Fun times. Vermont, start your sump pumps!

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  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong and a cast of thousands Registered User regular
    Ah ok, the one I saw a few hours ago was saying a potential New York landfall, the new update makes it look like it's just going to go back out to sea.

    There's a pretty thin line between getting pulled out to sea and going inland in the historical paths. Current predictions show it right in the middle.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Registered User regular
    So, with Lee bringing a shitload of rain to NOLA, and Katia going who the fuck knows where.. should I re-title this thread? Irene sucked, but it looks like more folks are going to be posting some pictures soon, and I don't know that we need multiple hurricane threads to talk about the same things.

    Also, that track on Katia is more than a bit scary looking. I didn't need to see that. :| We're supposed to get a bunch of rain up here tomorrow night from the Lee remnants, and much of the state is under flash flood watches/warnings. Joy oh joy! :P

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  • lonelyahavalonelyahava One day, I will be able to say to myself "I am beautiful and I am perfect just the way I am"Registered User regular
    Lee will be expected to dump a shit load of rain in the gulf.

    Katia started further back in the Atlantic than Irene, so she has time to either intensify or die out. Her track is going to depend on the troughs and the currents.

    (side note, this would have been the year that Katrina was used again since most names on the Hurricane list are recycled every 6 years or so, but due to the enormous bitch that Katrina was, her name was retired, so they convened their nifty council and picked Katia to replace her in the list).


    It's been said before about Irene being slow, massive, and carrying a lot of water. There's also the whole fact that Hurricanes don't usually go up that track. Oh, they'll go up along the coast, but most of the time they're farther out to sea and the states get some rain and wind, mostly tropical storms since by then the storm has died down because of the colder water.

    Lee formed willy nilly out in the Gulf and that wasn't very nice of him, but Katia was watchable even a couple days ago. Around this time of year, most of the big hurricanes from the last few years have been storm systems coming off the west coast of Africa. They're usually really easy to spot on the radars on the weather channel's site, or they used to be. But yeah.

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  • Skoal CatSkoal Cat Registered User
    Lee will be expected to dump a shit load of rain in the gulf.

    Katia started further back in the Atlantic than Irene, so she has time to either intensify or die out. Her track is going to depend on the troughs and the currents.

    (side note, this would have been the year that Katrina was used again since most names on the Hurricane list are recycled every 6 years or so, but due to the enormous bitch that Katrina was, her name was retired, so they convened their nifty council and picked Katia to replace her in the list).


    It's been said before about Irene being slow, massive, and carrying a lot of water. There's also the whole fact that Hurricanes don't usually go up that track. Oh, they'll go up along the coast, but most of the time they're farther out to sea and the states get some rain and wind, mostly tropical storms since by then the storm has died down because of the colder water.

    Or they cut across the country and lose power since they aren't over water any more. Irene just rode the fucking coast.

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  • a5ehrena5ehren Registered User regular
    They're usually really easy to spot on the radars on the weather channel's site, or they used to be. But yeah.

    Forget TWC, just get it from the source. The big secret behind TWC/Accuweather/etc is that 99% of their stuff is just a repackaging of NHC/SPC/NWS data with better graphics. Also gives you access to the forecast discussions which talk about their reasoning for the forecast.

    With Katia, the day 4/5+ forecasts are really uncertain because a lot of it has to do with how TS Lee's remnants interact with a trough coming through. If it gets left behind, it'll create a weakness that will steer Katia back to the west. If it gets integrated with the trough, then Katia should get pulled out to sea.

    Also, this image is the forecast rainfall for the US for the next 5 days (from the Hydrological Prediction Center, another NOAA office that TWC jacks data from):
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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    a5ehren wrote:
    They're usually really easy to spot on the radars on the weather channel's site, or they used to be. But yeah.

    Forget TWC, just get it from the source. The big secret behind TWC/Accuweather/etc is that 99% of their stuff is just a repackaging of NHC/SPC/NWS data with better graphics. Also gives you access to the forecast discussions which talk about their reasoning for the forecast.

    Yeah, I get my weather from NOAA. More accurate and less panic.

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  • MrOlettaMrOletta Registered User
    I'm in new New Milford, CT, and I feel we got fairly lucky. Our house is in the litchfield hills and is fairly well elevated compared to the Housatonic river (which is about 1 mile from the house). Really the biggest problem was rain of which we received about 9-10". I spent that previous Thursday digging a french drain in a problematic area, and boy was it worth it as I had a small trickle of water flowing into the basement (total trips with the shop vac was ~6) as opposed to a constant/steady stream.

    I think we lost power for about 5-6 hours, but I had wired a generator into the electrical panel last winter. I plugged it in/turned it on and the whole house was running. Generators are so worth it, heh. We definitely need one as our heat is from pellet stove/oil furnace, which means we're screwed if the electricity goes out for long periods of time over the winter. Having a well (pump) also means you're stuck without water quite quickly once your holding tank depressurizes.

  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    Is it bad that I look at that map and I just think that Lee is a fucking bastard for ignoring Texas. Rain just hates us, it seems. The one storm that was going to hit Texas this year took one look at our coast and committed suicide.

    What I'm trying to say is if any of you other states want to donate some of that rain we wouldn't mind. The flooding sucks for you and we could use a little water. Even if that would be socialism.

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  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong and a cast of thousands Registered User regular
    Katia is now a tropical storm and headed farther into the tropics.

    Looks more likely that it will reach peak strength as a category 2 between Bermuda and the US before getting swept out to sea without making landfall. Still very much up in the air though.

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  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    I live on a little corner of land in Barrington NH, between Rochester and Strafford (Rochester is up a hill a couple hundred feet away, Strafford begins in my backyard). Irene wasn't too bad here. We lost power for about 14 hours, but we have a generator for all my medical equipment, and we lost cable for about 24 hours (which is ridiculously short for Metrocast). No flooding, but I'm on a small hill nestled in a larger valley. Some felled branches, and a bit more than 3 inches of rain. I definitely lucked out.

    How have things been in Vermont? Any improvement?

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  • jimb213jimb213 Registered User regular
    Tomanta wrote:
    Is it bad that I look at that map and I just think that Lee is a fucking bastard for ignoring Texas. Rain just hates us, it seems. The one storm that was going to hit Texas this year took one look at our coast and committed suicide.

    What I'm trying to say is if any of you other states want to donate some of that rain we wouldn't mind. The flooding sucks for you and we could use a little water. Even if that would be socialism.

    Yeah, I looked at it and thought "of course there's a big fat blank spot on Texas with rain on virtually all sides..."

    Have y'all seen Lake Travis lately, just outside of Austin? Or what the drought has done to our farmers? Texas would happily take a hurricane or two head on between Corpus Christi and Galveston.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Registered User regular
    Nightslyr wrote:
    I live on a little corner of land in Barrington NH, between Rochester and Strafford (Rochester is up a hill a couple hundred feet away, Strafford begins in my backyard). Irene wasn't too bad here. We lost power for about 14 hours, but we have a generator for all my medical equipment, and we lost cable for about 24 hours (which is ridiculously short for Metrocast). No flooding, but I'm on a small hill nestled in a larger valley. Some felled branches, and a bit more than 3 inches of rain. I definitely lucked out.

    How have things been in Vermont? Any improvement?

    Glad to hear you did ok. Things here are improving slowly. The National Guard is mobilized all over the state, and they've come in from all over the country to help. FEMA workers are here, as well, and some of them have come from as far as Illinois. Most of the towns that were cut off have been reconnected in some way, usually through grating whatever dirt is left under the pavement and adding gravel. We still have a few places that are cut off, and the ones that have reconnected have to take some really long ways around to get anywhere (again, what cut them off were often bridges rather than roads). Also, a number of towns are still without water and power. They've been cooking for their communities at the local town halls, fire departments, schools, and anywhere there's room. People have to truck water in to cook with, and they're still actively looking for any food donations they can get. It felt good to be a part of that yesterday - one of the towns came to our store looking for a donation of eggs, we gave them a small one, and I started making announcements to people in the store. Got lots more, and as luck would have it, a chicken farmer was in shopping at the same time, and just so happened to have no where to send her eggs. :^:

    We're all a bit jumpy over the rain headed our way, and the whole state is under a flash flood watch until Tuesday night. In the meantime, we're all trying to get things back to normal.

    Like I said, we're trying to get back to normal. It's still pretty incredible.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Registered User regular
    So a couple days later, the rain came and went. We had a couple more areas get flooded thanks to flash flooding, but because it was so quick, the waters also dropped fast. And with Katia looking more and more like it's heading back out to sea, we can breathe a small sigh of relief and keep cleaning. Horray for that.

    Funny note - there's a group of three people running a Facebook page that's getting news out, helping coordinate donations and such. They e-mailed P&G about the possibility of the Tide truck coming to Vermont (they drive around to disaster areas and wash clothing for people). Their response:
    "Dear June, Thank you for contacting us. We appreciate your interest in our Tide Loads of Hope program. We are deeply saddened to hear about (insert current “disaster” here). Our Tide Loads of Hope team is currently working with our partners to understand the best way we can help."

    ... heh. I don't want to sound ungrateful, especially since they already pledged 40,000 pounds of cat and dog food to the Vermont Humane Society, but.. ouch. At least actually "insert" that disaster. ;-)

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  • lonelyahavalonelyahava One day, I will be able to say to myself "I am beautiful and I am perfect just the way I am"Registered User regular
    wait....

    they didn't put....

    wow.

    Not much I can do from down here on this side of the world, but let me know if you think there is something you need that an expat can help with. even if it's just venting.

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  • jefe414jefe414 The dirtiest Sanchez Registered User regular
    Some photos.
    These are the baseball fields at the end of my street in Branford, CT(there are 4 fields here - the only visible part is one of the pitcher mounds covered in Canadian Geese)
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    Here are some more from the house I used to live in (Milford, CT - 15' from the water):
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    EDIT: According to my old neighbor from across the street, the water actually hit a depth of just below the first floor windows.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Registered User regular
    Wow, that's pretty high there. Thanks for sharing that.

    I am updating this thread to be the Hurricane thread. We've had Katia threaten the east coast and run away, Lee form in the gulf and drop a shitload of rain all over the country, Maria heading toward the Lesser Antilles and the Virgin Islands/Puerto Rico, and now Nate forming in the gulf and heading right into Mexico.

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  • lonelyahavalonelyahava One day, I will be able to say to myself "I am beautiful and I am perfect just the way I am"Registered User regular
    this sounds about right. the timing matches 6 years ago about right.

    Irene is probably going to be a retired name after this year, definitely I would say.

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  • ronzoronzo Registered User regular
    this sounds about right. the timing matches 6 years ago about right.

    Irene is probably going to be a retired name after this year, definitely I would say.

    Pretty sure if the storm causes any deaths and/or a large amount of damage the name is reitred

    So yeah, we won't be seeing hurricane irene again

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