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Also why someone so clever as to orchestrate and guide the narrative of the attacks was unable to make any of their later claims of stolen yellow cake and WMDs stick.
I'd love to forget that tomorrow is Sept 11th, but all these cops outside my window won't cooperate. I work literally adjacent to WTC and it's a total madhouse down here. The three things in evidence are carrion-eaters (trying to sell memorabilia to the tourists), cops (Mp5s! M3s! Canines!) and crackpots (the conspiracy theorists wearing Ron Paul shirts).
And I'm here til 8am, when I will happily get the heck out of dodge and sleep until football starts. Or the nuclear fireball engulfs my house.
Part of me wonders if every major anniversary is going to be like this. Downtown is literally choked off. Cops are searching every car. Literally. Not an exaggeration. Mass transit is shut down in the area starting at 7am and going until 11am. Every street in a seven block radius is shut down with concrete bollards, up until Broadway.
What's it going to look like when this shit falls on a week day?
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Some of the shows on news TV here in Australia was pretty disaster-porn to be honest, like interviewing people who were in a tower in Sydney watching planes fly out of the airport and getting them to say dumb things.
Really made me feel a bit queasy, but I've been listening to the Stern radio cast of it and it is pretty surreal (The France hate is a bit much).
I mainly watched sport today and tomorrow morning will watch a heap of the NFL games. Oh while I'm at it, the NFL playing 99% of their games on a Sunday is craptastic. Put a Friday night game on ffs!
I will have a minute silence for the victims at 15.00 local time. Its the least I could do and its not like its going to cost me anything. Its for the victims, not what happened afterwards. You can talk all you want about geopolitics and shit, but nothing makes the death of those 3000 any less tragic. 1 minute comemoration on the 10 year aniversary isn't that big a sacrifice.
Apart from that, spend the day as I usualy do.
The sky was full of stars, every star an exploding ship. One of ours.
I'll admit to my morbid side at wanting to see impact footage or some of those audio recordings. But at a certain point..enough is enough. There is a certain disaster porn aspect to 9/11 that re-asserts itself every anniversary that the "news" certainly encourages
Well, I'm not sure why I'm surprised but, sure enough, MSNBC is replaying the footage from 9/11 minute by minute.
I guess I thought they would do something a little different from the 10th anniversary, but why not do what you do every year? It's not like you're a news channel and you should be covering something that is happening today rather than news from ten years ago.
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I'm about to get on a plane flying out of DC. Though honestly security took five minutes to get through and the airport isn't too crowded so my strategy of showing up two hours early backfired a bit.
It sort of feels like this should be a bigger deal, but apparantly national hasnt been bitten by the crazy security bug for some reason.
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I didn't have any plans for today, but so far I've been sitting in my underpants watching Chopped.
Well, I'm not sure why I'm surprised but, sure enough, MSNBC is replaying the footage from 9/11 minute by minute.
I guess I thought they would do something a little different from the 10th anniversary, but why not do what you do every year? It's not like you're a news channel and you should be covering something that is happening today rather than news from ten years ago.
Do you also hold a minute of silence for the innocent Iraq and Afghan Muslims killed through cruelty by American soldiers or is it just poor Americans who are acceptable to be tragic?
Do you also hold a minute of silence for the innocent Iraq and Afghan Muslims killed by the actions of Islamic Extremists or is it just the victims of Americans who are acceptable to be tragic?
Personally, I mourn the victims of reality as a whole whenever I am feeling mournful. The victims of wars, on all sides of the conflict, the victims of culture - stoning victims and bombed abortion doctors -, the victims of genocides and slavery and stupid stupid human psychology and biological problems and just being in the wrong place at the wrong time and the people lost to us simply through AGE.
Being unable to obtain happiness is a terrible, terrible thing, no matter who why or how. Don't get caught up in the same stupid tribalistic bullshit that causes so much of it. We are living beings capable of happiness and suffering.
Do you also hold a minute of silence for the innocent Iraq and Afghan Muslims killed through cruelty by American soldiers or is it just poor Americans who are acceptable to be tragic?
Do you hold a minute of silence for all those people killed by falling vending machines every year? Or does it only have to be an act of violence to be an acceptable tragedy?
I liked the Zits one myself, if only for the fact that the correct answer to the question they pose is "No, we don't have to do this every September 11th".
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The USA/Ireland game of the Rugby World Cup is going to be played on NBC on time delay. I'll be watching that.
I'll be doing the same as well as watching Pro Football. I'm sure there will be enough reminders of it for us to dwell on it.
guys, seriously, stick to the US Football. you'll be less depressed.
I had a friend at work who had gotten rugby tickets yesterday (sept 11 down here) and when we asked him which game he was going to and when, he said "Oh, this game on September 11th".
let me tell you, it was a HUGE relief and a wakeup call to my brain to hear somebody utter that phrase "September 11th" without hearing the added emotional baggage. It was huge. Like he was able to say September 11th without even beginning to touch on an emotional trigger. Was quite neat.
I liked the Zits one myself, if only for the fact that the correct answer to the question they pose is "No, we don't have to do this every September 11th".
I do more than a minute of silence for ALL Muslims lost in the world be it as a result of famine, war or American bombs.
Tribalism is part of the world, except in Western cultures where they seem to fight what is considered a part of human nature.
Some of the most vital progress in the entire world, Western or otherwise, has come from letting go of tribalism. Tribalism is WHY America is bombing shit. Tribalism is WHY America fought to hold onto slavery so long.
Tribalism, today, is one of the greatest sources of suffering. Religious, political, racial violence? A vast amount of that is ultimately just an expression of tribalism.
If you're pro-Tribalism than it's difficult to see what issue you have with America's actions other than that you aren't part of the American tribe.
Tribalism is part of human development, but by no means is it something to try and hold onto as we progress as a species.
ANYWAY, I couldn't go to Disneyland as I originally hoped, so I stayed home and watched old Schwarzenegger action movies. I'm on the Conan movies right now.
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So waiting outside while my daughter auditioned for a Nutcracker performance (no, she didn't get it, stupid Sacramento Ballet Company can eat a dick grumble grumble indignant parent stuff goes here) there was a group selling cupcakes and homemade candies and stuff. Typical yummy wares, well placed given the horde of parents waiting for kids, ostensibly there to raise money to support the Ballet Company.
After about 90 minutes of waiting a couple of kids - presumably the children of the folks running the sale - bust out a couple of American flags. They start walking back and forth along the reef of bored parents offering to sell them delicious cakes. Delicious 9/11 memorial cupcakes! Support the memory of 9/11 by buying homemade cookies! These are kids who, if they were even alive when the towers fell, were still crapping themselves and spitting up milk on passerby, and they are hocking goods that apparently became very patriotic once the sales window started to narrow and the prospect of fifty pounds of unsold confections started to loom large in the distance.
It was tasteless and horrible and I kind of wanted to punch someone about it.
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Also: I actively avoided thinking about how this is the anniversary of the day the terrorists won.
The 9/11 conspiracy is nothing compared to the really important one:
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Like, it just isn't plausible.
And I'm here til 8am, when I will happily get the heck out of dodge and sleep until football starts. Or the nuclear fireball engulfs my house.
Part of me wonders if every major anniversary is going to be like this. Downtown is literally choked off. Cops are searching every car. Literally. Not an exaggeration. Mass transit is shut down in the area starting at 7am and going until 11am. Every street in a seven block radius is shut down with concrete bollards, up until Broadway.
What's it going to look like when this shit falls on a week day?
I'll be doing the same as well as watching Pro Football. I'm sure there will be enough reminders of it for us to dwell on it.
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Really made me feel a bit queasy, but I've been listening to the Stern radio cast of it and it is pretty surreal (The France hate is a bit much).
I mainly watched sport today and tomorrow morning will watch a heap of the NFL games. Oh while I'm at it, the NFL playing 99% of their games on a Sunday is craptastic. Put a Friday night game on ffs!
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Apart from that, spend the day as I usualy do.
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I guess I thought they would do something a little different from the 10th anniversary, but why not do what you do every year? It's not like you're a news channel and you should be covering something that is happening today rather than news from ten years ago.
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It sort of feels like this should be a bigger deal, but apparantly national hasnt been bitten by the crazy security bug for some reason.
MSNBC shuts down on the weekends anyway.
still
Seems like such a thread on other forums are behaving more or less outside a few trolls here and there.
Never forget.
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I know, I was expecting some relief reading the comics in the newspaper, but they were all depressing. Even the Peanuts comic was depressing.
Do you also hold a minute of silence for the innocent Iraq and Afghan Muslims killed by the actions of Islamic Extremists or is it just the victims of Americans who are acceptable to be tragic?
Personally, I mourn the victims of reality as a whole whenever I am feeling mournful. The victims of wars, on all sides of the conflict, the victims of culture - stoning victims and bombed abortion doctors -, the victims of genocides and slavery and stupid stupid human psychology and biological problems and just being in the wrong place at the wrong time and the people lost to us simply through AGE.
Being unable to obtain happiness is a terrible, terrible thing, no matter who why or how. Don't get caught up in the same stupid tribalistic bullshit that causes so much of it. We are living beings capable of happiness and suffering.
Do you hold a minute of silence for all those people killed by falling vending machines every year? Or does it only have to be an act of violence to be an acceptable tragedy?
Let's not blame 9/11 for that.
I liked the Zits one myself, if only for the fact that the correct answer to the question they pose is "No, we don't have to do this every September 11th".
guys, seriously, stick to the US Football. you'll be less depressed.
I had a friend at work who had gotten rugby tickets yesterday (sept 11 down here) and when we asked him which game he was going to and when, he said "Oh, this game on September 11th".
let me tell you, it was a HUGE relief and a wakeup call to my brain to hear somebody utter that phrase "September 11th" without hearing the added emotional baggage. It was huge. Like he was able to say September 11th without even beginning to touch on an emotional trigger. Was quite neat.
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Some of the most vital progress in the entire world, Western or otherwise, has come from letting go of tribalism. Tribalism is WHY America is bombing shit. Tribalism is WHY America fought to hold onto slavery so long.
Tribalism, today, is one of the greatest sources of suffering. Religious, political, racial violence? A vast amount of that is ultimately just an expression of tribalism.
If you're pro-Tribalism than it's difficult to see what issue you have with America's actions other than that you aren't part of the American tribe.
ANYWAY, I couldn't go to Disneyland as I originally hoped, so I stayed home and watched old Schwarzenegger action movies. I'm on the Conan movies right now.
After about 90 minutes of waiting a couple of kids - presumably the children of the folks running the sale - bust out a couple of American flags. They start walking back and forth along the reef of bored parents offering to sell them delicious cakes. Delicious 9/11 memorial cupcakes! Support the memory of 9/11 by buying homemade cookies! These are kids who, if they were even alive when the towers fell, were still crapping themselves and spitting up milk on passerby, and they are hocking goods that apparently became very patriotic once the sales window started to narrow and the prospect of fifty pounds of unsold confections started to loom large in the distance.
It was tasteless and horrible and I kind of wanted to punch someone about it.
Also: I actively avoided thinking about how this is the anniversary of the day the terrorists won.
Which conspiracies? We probably shouldn't get rid of all the Belgium-Congo conspiracy nuts or we'd be out of historians.
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Iran Contra is TOTALLY like Anti-Vaxxers. TOTALLY.
We'll start with the moon landing people and 9/11 Truthers and see what's left.
Things I would have done anyway, regardless of the significance of the date.