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Let Us Discuss How Gamers Might Actually Save the World

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer I'm Speed Racer and I drive real fast. I drive real fast, I'm gonna last.Registered User regular
    Edcrab wrote:
    I'm really not sure that we're talking about the same thing any more

    Maybe not exactly the same thing, but I think they're related to a degree that maybe isn't recognized.

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  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    Framling wrote:
    If Fable 3 taught me anything, it's that most of our problems could be solved if Obama just left the country running overnight.

    I taxed the rich a significantly higher percentage

    worked out well for everyone

  • A steak!A steak! Moderator, ClubPA mod
    I saw her keynote with @Lewie P's Stepdad and I think I can safely speak for both of us by saying she's a loon and a terrible person.

    Favorite quotes
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  • Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    heh

    Tumbling
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    Baka!
    Belief in the heart of friendship and you'll always be kawaii Tommy-Chan!

  • DubhDubh "FLÄSHYN!" Y.V.'s mansionRegistered User regular
    It would be really nice is video games somehow did something amazing the world- just like any other innocuous activity, I'd say.


    Druhim raises a point, that we could view video games as an art and have much more of a meaningful discussion treating it as such.

    While I'm at it, video games are one of the factors believed to be responsible for lowering youth violence across America (kids staying inside and getting their Halo on rather than doing anything outside). But sociology includes anything involving human interaction.

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    I find this a kind of ridiculous attempt to lend real importance and significance to a generally very shallow form of entertainment

    video games are not going to save the world any more than jenga would

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  • DubhDubh "FLÄSHYN!" Y.V.'s mansionRegistered User regular
    Every form of entertainment is full of shallow material

    don't limit that to video games, by any means

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  • Tommy2HandsTommy2Hands what is this where am i Registered User regular
    what about

    jumanji


    could jumanji save the world

    Tumbling
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    Baka!
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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? peach treesRegistered User regular
    Well we know that Jumanji could destroy the world

    Those giant mosquitoes alone

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer I'm Speed Racer and I drive real fast. I drive real fast, I'm gonna last.Registered User regular
    Dichotomy wrote:
    I find this a kind of ridiculous attempt to lend real importance and significance to a generally very shallow form of entertainment

    video games are not going to save the world any more than jenga would

    I don't think the fundamental idea is at all ridiculous

    The degree to which she takes it though, yeah maybe

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  • FugitiveFugitive Registered User regular
    Druhim wrote:
    How about we just appreciate games for just being fun and being engaging art instead of trying to find some deeper justification for them that probably isn't true?

    http://www.nature.com/news/2011/110916/full/news.2011.543.html

    I saw this article

    Strangely, I never saw Kotaku report on it!

  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    thinking about it jenga would have a dramatically greater chance of saving the world

    like if you got all the world's leaders together and got them to play a game of jenga together and made them realize that this block represents human rights and this block represents finite resources and this block represents compassion and this block represents respect and if you start taking out those blocks it all gets unstable and then it falls over and when it falls over that's it game over

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood Slip Like Freudian. Playing Yourself Like Accordion.Registered User regular
  • HenroidHenroid Nobody Nowhere fastRegistered User regular
    I guess I should post this now. A Life Well Wasted, episode 5: Help.
    Robert Ashley helps people in videogames instead of helping people in real life, meets a comedy group who spend hundreds of hours every year playing the most boring videogame ever created, talks to a guy who quit playing games for a year, and profiles the best selling pinball designer of all time.

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  • Wandering HeroWandering Hero Registered User regular
    As far as video games as an art medium for the betterment of the world...

    I'd like to see more forays into educational videogames. Not just basic arithmetic, but also the higher complex sciences and mathematics. I think that if they were presented in the right way, in similar way that game mechanics are taught then games could be engrossing as well as stimulating. The biggest challenge here is that... well educational games are boring. I think that is simply because often they are too "in your face" with the subject or just do not have the right angle to interest the player. I think many of these subjects are engrossing enough on their own that if they were presented right, then they could engross the player as well.

    One good example is Assassin's Creed which includes a lot of history and architecture. A space rpg or game might teach you astronomy. Chemistry and biology might come from you being a scientist in some lab after some zombie epidemic.

    Not today.
  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood Slip Like Freudian. Playing Yourself Like Accordion.Registered User regular
    zombies aren't real and no zombie game ever has had any legit science in it because zombies aren't real.

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  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    video games teach you to think in a pretty linear fashion

    you gradually learn a system which has been designed to be accessible and useful in the situation

    you expect that you'll be given at least a little hand-holding initially, and that difficulty will scale to your mastery of the system in a way that doesn't overly impede your good time

    I'd say that they train people into a kind of problem-solving method that will only cause them frustration in real-world problem-solving

    like the universe is cheating

  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? peach treesRegistered User regular
    edited September 2011
    Jeez this graveyard game McGonigal designed is uh

    Well it's something, I guess

    It's hardly the worst thing in the world but I could think of better things to do

    Olivaw on
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  • Wandering HeroWandering Hero Registered User regular
    zombies aren't real and no zombie game ever has had any legit science in it because zombies aren't real.

    Are... are you sure?

    Because I have been stocking up on food ever since Left4Dead came out.

    Not today.
  • FugitiveFugitive Registered User regular
    edited September 2011
    As far as video games as an art medium for the betterment of the world...

    I'd like to see more forays into educational videogames. Not just basic arithmetic, but also the higher complex sciences and mathematics. I think that if they were presented in the right way, in similar way that game mechanics are taught then games could be engrossing as well as stimulating. The biggest challenge here is that... well educational games are boring. I think that is simply because often they are too "in your face" with the subject or just do not have the right angle to interest the player. I think many of these subjects are engrossing enough on their own that if they were presented right, then they could engross the player as well.

    One good example is Assassin's Creed which includes a lot of history and architecture. A space rpg or game might teach you astronomy. Chemistry and biology might come from you being a scientist in some lab after some zombie epidemic.

    Minecraft is on the way to being the first game about electrical engineering.

    Fugitive on
  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood Slip Like Freudian. Playing Yourself Like Accordion.Registered User regular
    there is a teacher (i hesitate to call her a professor) at my college who is on the figurative "zombie dick"

    always with the zombies. zombie shirts, zombie bumper stickers, zombie themed assignments

    what about mummies, bitch? or jewish lizard moon men?

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  • DichotomyDichotomy Registered User regular
    at least lizard people are real

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  • Wandering HeroWandering Hero Registered User regular
    Fugitive wrote:

    Minecraft is on the way to being the first game about electrical engineering.

    I was just thinking the other day it would be fun to teach children about geometry with Minecraft.

    Not today.
  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    zombies are the new ninjas in that I'm sick of fucking hearing about them

  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? peach treesRegistered User regular
    there is a teacher (i hesitate to call her a professor) at my college who is on the figurative "zombie dick"

    always with the zombies. zombie shirts, zombie bumper stickers, zombie themed assignments

    what about mummies, bitch? or jewish lizard moon men?

    Mummies will have their day

    You just wait and see

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  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood Slip Like Freudian. Playing Yourself Like Accordion.Registered User regular
  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    a couple years ago I overheard a guy in the dining hall who had cornered this polite girl at a table and was telling her all about why he loved the fucking big bang theory

    which boiled down to it making "jokes only people like me can appreciate! I mean, if you're making a joke about Schrodinger's Cat-most people don't get why that's funny! It's not immature humor like on always sunrise in Philadelphia"

  • Clint EastwoodClint Eastwood Slip Like Freudian. Playing Yourself Like Accordion.Registered User regular
    the big bang theory consistently portrays what it is like to have aspergers better than any other show on television

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer I'm Speed Racer and I drive real fast. I drive real fast, I'm gonna last.Registered User regular
    Fugitive wrote:
    As far as video games as an art medium for the betterment of the world...

    I'd like to see more forays into educational videogames. Not just basic arithmetic, but also the higher complex sciences and mathematics. I think that if they were presented in the right way, in similar way that game mechanics are taught then games could be engrossing as well as stimulating. The biggest challenge here is that... well educational games are boring. I think that is simply because often they are too "in your face" with the subject or just do not have the right angle to interest the player. I think many of these subjects are engrossing enough on their own that if they were presented right, then they could engross the player as well.

    One good example is Assassin's Creed which includes a lot of history and architecture. A space rpg or game might teach you astronomy. Chemistry and biology might come from you being a scientist in some lab after some zombie epidemic.

    Minecraft is on the way to being the first game about electrical engineering.

    At the higher levels of it, the Create Mode of LittleBigPlanet is basically an introduction to programming logic and has made me interested in a subject that I thought I'd never care about

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  • ButlerButler 89 episodes or bust Registered User regular
    Olivaw wrote:
    there is a teacher (i hesitate to call her a professor) at my college who is on the figurative "zombie dick"

    always with the zombies. zombie shirts, zombie bumper stickers, zombie themed assignments

    what about mummies, bitch? or jewish lizard moon men?

    Mummies will have their day

    You just wait and see

    Mummies are just zombies with a pedigree.

    Wait I came in here to post something on topic. What was it again? Oh yeah.
    Online gamers have achieved a feat beyond the realm of Second Life or Dungeons and Dragons: they have deciphered the structure of an enzyme of an AIDS-like virus that had thwarted scientists for a decade.

    ...

    Developed in 2008 by the University of Washington, [Foldit] is a fun-for-purpose video game in which gamers, divided into competing groups, compete to unfold chains of amino acids - the building blocks of proteins - using a set of online tools.

    To the astonishment of the scientists, the gamers produced an accurate model of the enzyme in just three weeks.

  • EdcrabEdcrab Registered User regular
    I was just coming here to post that! That's a better example of utilising the medium

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  • LTMLTM Registered User regular
    I know the one thing keeping me from solving the world's problems is that lack of trackable Acheivements with which to grow my ePeen IRL.

  • That Dave FellaThat Dave Fella Registered User regular
    A duck! wrote:
    I saw her keynote with @Lewie P's Stepdad and I think I can safely speak for both of us by saying she's a loon and a terrible person.

    yeh, I was at this keynote and she's a crazy person who has a weird sense of what's fun.

    I don't really want her saving the world.

  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    @that dave fella please elaborate on "weird sense of what's fun"

  • TubeTube Says some shit Administrator, ClubPA admin
    I don't think I've ever wanted to leave anything as badly as I wanted to leave her keynote. And I've been to prison.

  • MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
  • AntimatterAntimatter Registered User regular
    Butler wrote:
    Olivaw wrote:
    there is a teacher (i hesitate to call her a professor) at my college who is on the figurative "zombie dick"

    always with the zombies. zombie shirts, zombie bumper stickers, zombie themed assignments

    what about mummies, bitch? or jewish lizard moon men?

    Mummies will have their day

    You just wait and see

    Mummies are just zombies with a pedigree.

    Wait I came in here to post something on topic. What was it again? Oh yeah.
    Online gamers have achieved a feat beyond the realm of Second Life or Dungeons and Dragons: they have deciphered the structure of an enzyme of an AIDS-like virus that had thwarted scientists for a decade.

    ...

    Developed in 2008 by the University of Washington, [Foldit] is a fun-for-purpose video game in which gamers, divided into competing groups, compete to unfold chains of amino acids - the building blocks of proteins - using a set of online tools.

    To the astonishment of the scientists, the gamers produced an accurate model of the enzyme in just three weeks.

    I am

    impressed

    this lady's article failed to do so, but this impresses me

  • CorporateLogoCorporateLogo The toilet knows how I feelRegistered User regular
    What about the CoH panel, tube

    Do not have a cow, mortal.

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  • That Dave FellaThat Dave Fella Registered User regular
    Skull Man wrote:
    @that dave fella please elaborate on "weird sense of what's fun"

    She was telling us about these games that she'd come up with.

    One of them was called graveyard poker or something? Basically you had to go find graves with your partner and the name/year on the gravestone corresponded to a card in a deck.

    You and your partner had to be touching both graves to get the combination of cards, so you had to lay down on top of peoples graves.

    She proceeded to show pictures of her and like 4 friends playing and then showed pictures of like 100 people in a graveyard laying on top of gravestones playing games.

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