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Meh, I generally give a show a full season to at the very least show me potential before I write it off myself, but to each his own.
Serial fiction. It's meant to be consumed in episodes. Each episode should lead you to want to see the next episode. Writers know this. This is why they try to make pilots great.
A movie is meant to be consumed in one go.
I can understand giving a show more than one or two episodes, but insisting that people are stupid for not doing so is goosery. Yes, shows can get considerably better, but laying the blame on the viewer for not enjoying the product is silly. That's the production's job. Get asses in the seats every week.
People decide to avoid stuff all the time, or have you not decided to skip a movie, game, book, or TV shows after a demo, trailer, or excerpt?
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I just can't see a good reason for HBO not to offer a PS3 channel for $15 a month except for cable contracts, and possibly being a loss leader for cable. When the NFL did the Sunday Ticket for PS3, I gladly paid the 84.99 a month for it. Perhaps they don't see much pickup in viewers that justify platform development/licensing/changing business model, but if that's the case, why HBO Go?
Is there anything on the horizon beyond their original programming?
you aren't giving the show any time, though.
you're asking it, in one episode, to do a lot.
I'm just saying, you're gonna miss a lot of good tv that way. the list above is complete proof that what I'm saying is true.
What's left for them to get? They've got most everything on DVD, it's just the gradual shift up to instant watch that's taking forever.
hah, I never called anyone stupid
it's making a judgement too fast, in my opinion. as I just said, the list of shows he has skipped is proof that it's a mistake.
obviously I make decisions based on trailers and demos. if I've seen enough from those to actually go in on the show/game/movie, I wouldn't quit after the first episode (which is similar to the opening of a movie in that our main goal is finding out WHO we are watching, WHERE they are, and WHAT they will be doing, far far less so about having a 100% solid episode. most pilots are not among the best eps in a series)
Their content selection is impressive. The only online provider that comes close is You Tube. Amazon splits the content up too much into separate packages and their format is terrible for streaming selection.
Well, that's what I meant. There haven't been any major content additions to their digital selection since the summer, while Starz is set to go very soon (unless that's changed?).
My forgiveness on the accusation, it's something I've seen in many places that gets my ire up.
I agree with the final premise (many series have uneven first episodes or first seasons), I just disagree with the idea that it's the viewer's fault for not giving enough to the show. Especially after having it drilled into me in every screenwriting and creative writing class that you have to catch the viewer from the first sentence. That doesn't necessarily mean it needs to be the best, but it does mean that it needs to give them reasons to keep going. The idea is that you present your beginning in a form that will entice the viewer, hence the reason some shows get longer pilots. DC ran into this with its recent relaunch; many will only give a comic one issue to provide itself, despite that being (at least) a fourth of the first arc. So the kickoff needed to be worthwhile, and some titles failed on that metric.
Content providers are busy trying to make their own streaming portals or grab the top licensing dollar if I had to guess. It was much easier for Netflix when streaming first started.
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I'm not gonna change my position but I didn't think of it as putting it on the viewer, but it is at least somewhat.
I gotta know: which episodes from Community did you watch? Was one of them 'Modern Warfare', because one of them really should have been 'Modern Warfare'.
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No problem. That's how a good discussion should go. Calm disagreement, but understanding.
I'm mostly just hoping Netflix nets more semi-live television shows. Stuff occasionally ends up on streaming like that, but not enough shows. As it is, you need Hulu Plus in tandem to really clean up.
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The CBS/CW content acquisition was fairly recent. And they should get access to Summit's library via their deal with Epix.
I'm not arguing that's not the case. But that's not necessarily the viewer's problem. People are different. I'm willing to give a series a good 5 episodes, but I'm also willing to completely walk away if two or three episodes in a row lose me. But if a user decides after episode one that a show is not for them, that's because episode one gave them that impression. It could get worse for all the users knows, at which point they're wasted time.
The number of episodes needed before you stay with or leave a show is a personal benchmark. For me it's five, for you it could be ten. For some it's one. But the reality of the situation is its the production crew's job to create a show that entertains the largest number of people every single episode. Each episode should make the viewer want to see the next one. If it doesn't, the failing is on the production crew, not the viewer. There may be some viewers the crew doesn't care about, but that's a creative or business-led decision on their part. Has nothing to do with the viewer.
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I would pay 15 a month to add this functionality to Netflix.
I'd wager Comcast currently is paying more for them to not.
Ive heard its good, but Ive admittedly given it no shots.
Does Netflix still limit you to the number of devices that can access it? Is that limit at the same time?
I believe they still do, yes, and I think they even lowered it (used to be one per disk plus one, now it's just a flat two, IIRC). But it's concurrent devices, not total.
As for American Horror Story, I thought it was surprisingly good, though I went in with low expectations.
And few serials are going to be able to build up enough in a single pilot episode to really impress. That's the nature of the beast. Those shows tend to improve over time as the story, backstory, and characters progress. A more episodic show might have an easier time of it, since that's more "did you like this episode? want to watch at least a hundred more like it?"
I would agree with you but he listed Community as a show he gave up on so his opinion is obviously wrong.
I'd hate to say that I didn't have it in me to give those a chance.
Oh and to the guy who said they didn't like HIMYM after seeing a couple of episodes that weren't the first episodes? Try it again but from the beginning. It's very long in the story arc department and I can think of a huge number of jokes and situations that make far less sense if you haven't been with it from tbe beginning.
You get the drift.
What followed was an 11 minute nonsensical little venture in
I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be some kind of streaming test for Netflix that the company plays in different areas to test image quality/sound syncing/whatever, but at the same time, it has an odd, The Ring-like quality because of how it doesn't outright explain anything about what it is or what it's doing on Netflix, and doesn't have any sort of screen capture thumbnail either. Plus, you know, that special description.
Sounds ripe for the beginning of some kind of Netflix-tinted creepypasta or something. Anybody ever seen something on Netflix that wasn't a movie, a show, a documentary, and had no credits? I'm oddly intrigued in spite of knowing it's pointless, just because it bucks the format it exists in.
http://movies.netflix.com/Movie/Maple-Elephant-s-Dream/70225205
Yeah, but wouldn't I need Tivo to get the Season 2 episodes from on demand and then play them when I want? Or does HBO air re-runs of the episodes at good times of day?
Oh, if you aren't on a cable provider that features HBO OnDemand that's different. But to my knowledge many, like Comcast, will let you browse through HBO's backlog through a modern set-top box.
Though perhaps the OnDemand selection is more limited than HBO Go? I don't know, like I said I just have an HTPC.
Hmm, I'm on DirectTV. We usually get HBO for when Game of Thrones comes on so I guess I'll check if we have HBO OnDemand then. Thanks.
Yeah, the OnDemand stuff is fairly limited. Theyll sometimes, depending on channel, throw up entire seasons before the next season is about to start (I know Showtime does this, I think HBO might do it with its big shows), but most of the time its just the last couple of episodes.
Well, if you resubscribe when Game of Thrones starts up again you can always just access HBO Go then since itll be included in your montly HBO fee.
How do I use that on my TV, though? I want to watch Boardwalk at the best quality I can on my TV, not the computer.
Actually, I disagree. The first season suffers largely from being overly cartoony as well as having way too much emphasis on the limp noodle character of Ted. Then again, I don't think the show is nearly as good as many people do, and it certainly doesn't hold a candle to any of the old NBC "Must See TV" multi-camera/laughtrack sitcoms of the Nineties, like Friends, Frasier, and Seinfeld.
I chalk up the success of HIMYM to its decent cast and chemistry and the lack of better comprable competition. There are very few other multi-cam sitcoms right now, almost all of them are on CBS anyway, and the only two that strongly pander to the 18-35 demographic are this show and BBT.
If your desktop/laptop had HDMI out, all you need is an HDMI cable (assuming your tv has a HDMI port), if your computer/laptop has DVI out, you can do DVI to DVI (if your tv has DVI) and then also hook up the speaker out/headphones port to your tv (they sell Left/Right splitters so you can use the headphone port and get stereo sound). If one has DVI and the other has HDMI, then you need an HDMI/DVI adapter and the aforementioned sound cable. If you can only do VGA, then its the same as hooking up your computer/laptop via DVI. If you have a Mac, you may need to buy a DisplayPort adapter.