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Thick Creamy FurryHere's the thing about points though, I'm never going to find a $25 PSN gift card for anything other than... $25. I can get a card for "2000 Microsoft Points" for less than $25.
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on my way toBarnes and NobleSkull2185 wrote:I do agree that the MS fun bux system is retarded.
Especially for stuff at 1200 points. I could buy 1600 points for $20, but I usually end up buying 800 points and then 400 because it comes out to $15. Why there's no $15 1200 point option is beyond me...
Yes, but I'm still not talking about buying points of any value, or putting money into a wallet in my console, or any of those kinds of solutions. Being able to buy 1200 points would still be buying 1200 points, or being able to put $15 on my account would still involve the same process as buying points anyway. I'm saying the whole system has to be simpler and quicker. See game, buy game.
edit: amnesiasoft, that's something I'm well aware of, that by using points you can effectively get 'free' money by paying less for the points card than the actual value of the points. But that's one of the things that stops me at times, because I think "I must be able to find cheaper points elsewhere", so I won't get the ones I'm looking at. Again, it's a step in the process that impedes the sale. -
Plus I have some personal issuesI'd kinda like to get fixed.
Uh, given that there are fantastic looking games on UE3, I'd say the onus on whether or not a game will look good is less on what engine they're doing, and more on how much effort they put into the game.Warlock82 wrote:They're still using UE3? You'd think at least internally they'd be on a new one by now. UE3 is kind of a piece of crap visually (although it must be easy to develop for since every game under the sun uses it)
I mean, ignoring titles like Gears3 and just going off the top of my head, Mortal Kombat looked FANTASTIC and it was UE3.
Seriously, look at all the games on UE3 (Link) and I don't think you can honestly say that UE3 is inheriantly "a piece of crap visually"
Also, they're not going to bother with a new engine until there's a new generation of console technology to take advantage of. When the next Xbox or Playstation hit, we'll see UE4.Sheep wrote:Don't care.
Where's Shadow Complex 2?
They're looking for a publisher, IIRC.
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/09/17/bleszinski-shadow-complex-2-is-largely-designed-and-sitting/
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Man if I could just insert the dollar bills into the 360 like a vending maKyougu wrote:
Well this almost makes up for the baby ad.
It's thinking
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Ok I guess this is off topic but.
I won an EA Sports game from the McDonald's Monopoly thing!
I saw Origin logos on the confirmation pages so I almost didn't want to bother with it, but you can get physical games too.
Then I was excited to see Dragon Age Origins Ultimate mistakenly listed as an EA Sports game on their site.
But the code didn't work on it, and my friends and I couldn't think of any other EA Sports game we would want so I just got NBA Jam for Wii.
Yay free stuff!
So, uh, I'm sure this will have some sort of impact upon the gaming industry or something. -
Momma Mia!Don't Blink!Gratz! :o
When a man with a sing-song voice tells me to "fuck off", it becomes my business...boy-o. -
on my way toBarnes and Noble
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Meelo, no!That's not a toilet!Crazily enough those pesky smartphones have managed to figure out how to do the whole "see game, buy game" concept without having to mess around with points or a wallet or such. And as a result, people buy apps/games for the iPhone like crazy.
In other news:
Last week, Activision-owned Vicarious Visions was linked to development for Nintendo's Wii U. It appears Vicarious Visions isn't the only Activision developer working on projects for a new console.
A job listing at Call of Duty studio Treyarch calls for a senior software engineer to join a team "bringing our hugely successful game to a new console." Though not named outright, Call of Duty has become the studio's signature series. Last year's Treyarch-developed Call of Duty: Black Ops sold around 25 million copies for the publisher through early August. The studio has not shipped a title outside of the shooter franchise since 2008, when it released both the James Bond-based Quantum of Solace and Spider-Man: Web of Shadows.
The job listing does little to shed additional light on the project, though the phrasing of bringing a specific game to a new console could suggest a port. The job description notes that the chosen candidate will "adapt graphics and other major systems in our engine to a new platform."
As for what the "new console" might be, there are a number of possibilities. At the 2011 Electronic Entertainment Expo, Activision pledged to support Nintendo's newest console, the Wii U. Beyond that, there are rumors the next Xbox could be unveiled at E3 2012, and a source claiming to be present at a "high level" Sony meeting pegged the PlayStation 4 as being readied for announcement or release in 18 months.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6338153/next-gen-call-of-duty-in-works-at-treyarch?tag=topstory;title
Well, it obviously can't be the Wii U, because third parties don't give a shit about Kidtendo. :rotate: -
UncleSporky wrote:Ok I guess this is off topic but.
I won an EA Sports game from the McDonald's Monopoly thing!
I saw Origin logos on the confirmation pages so I almost didn't want to bother with it, but you can get physical games too.
Then I was excited to see Dragon Age Origins Ultimate mistakenly listed as an EA Sports game on their site.
But the code didn't work on it, and my friends and I couldn't think of any other EA Sports game we would want so I just got NBA Jam for Wii.
Yay free stuff!
So, uh, I'm sure this will have some sort of impact upon the gaming industry or something.
I won a Sega Gamegear from one of the very first monopoly things McDonalds did. It broke in about three days and McDonalds and Sega wouldn't fix it =/ -
on my way toBarnes and Noblecloudeagle wrote:Crazily enough those pesky smartphones have managed to figure out how to do the whole "see game, buy game" concept without having to mess around with points or a wallet or such. And as a result, people buy apps/games for the iPhone like crazy.
This is exactly my point. I don't own an iPhone so I've no actual idea how easy or difficult it is to buy an app, but I presume it's infintely less complicated than you get on a console. -
cloudeagle wrote:A job listing at Call of Duty studio Treyarch calls for a senior software engineer to join a team "bringing our hugely successful game to a new console."
Fingers crossed for a new Die By The Sword.
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Momma Mia!Don't Blink!you press one single button. Its p. awesome.
Edit: dammit, Mantis
@ DarleysamSkull2185 on
When a man with a sing-song voice tells me to "fuck off", it becomes my business...boy-o. -
Meelo, no!That's not a toilet!darleysam wrote:cloudeagle wrote:Crazily enough those pesky smartphones have managed to figure out how to do the whole "see game, buy game" concept without having to mess around with points or a wallet or such. And as a result, people buy apps/games for the iPhone like crazy.
This is exactly my point. I don't own an iPhone so I've no actual idea how easy or difficult it is to buy an app, but I presume it's infintely less complicated than you get on a console.
You press "buy", you enter a password, boom, it starts downloading.
I think the way Apple gets around credit card fees is that the company doesn't actually charge you at purchase, it accumulates your purchases for a week or two, then charges you all in one go. Of course Apple has the advantage of encouraging you to buy music, books, magazines, etc. in iTunes as well, so chances are good the average iPhone owner will have accumulated enough charges by the time billing comes around to cover the fee. -
on my way toBarnes and Noblecloudeagle wrote:darleysam wrote:cloudeagle wrote:Crazily enough those pesky smartphones have managed to figure out how to do the whole "see game, buy game" concept without having to mess around with points or a wallet or such. And as a result, people buy apps/games for the iPhone like crazy.
This is exactly my point. I don't own an iPhone so I've no actual idea how easy or difficult it is to buy an app, but I presume it's infintely less complicated than you get on a console.
You press "buy", you enter a password, boom, it starts downloading.
I think the way Apple gets around credit card fees is that the company doesn't actually charge you at purchase, it accumulates your purchases for a week or two, then charges you all in one go. Of course Apple has the advantage of encouraging you to buy music, books, magazines, etc. in iTunes as well, so chances are good the average iPhone owner will have accumulated enough charges by the time billing comes around to cover the fee.
Yeah, that kind of system would get a lot more purchases from me. Probably enough in that span of time to cover the billing fee.
Microsoft, do you see where this is going? -
Amazon just charges you like any other product at the time of purchase. They will bundle multiple product/mp3/app purchase within quick succession though.
Life may suck, but at least you aren't a cactus with a stick up its ass. -
Get friendly with some wood.Hurr, hurr.MechMantis wrote:cloudeagle wrote:A job listing at Call of Duty studio Treyarch calls for a senior software engineer to join a team "bringing our hugely successful game to a new console."
Fingers crossed for a new Die By The Sword.
MM, you are a classy guy. -
cloudeagle wrote:I think the way Apple gets around credit card fees is that the company doesn't actually charge you at purchase, it accumulates your purchases for a week or two, then charges you all in one go. Of course Apple has the advantage of encouraging you to buy music, books, magazines, etc. in iTunes as well, so chances are good the average iPhone owner will have accumulated enough charges by the time billing comes around to cover the fee.
Remember, too, that legislation from Congress recently heavily "nerfed" the fees credit card companies can charge to a business for using a credit card.
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UncleSporky wrote:But the code didn't work on it, and my friends and I couldn't think of any other EA Sports game we would want so I just got NBA Jam for Wii.
Yay free stuff!
I don't care what anyone else says about the new NBA Jam, that game is really fun.
I think its okay for a game just to be fun sometimes. Nice going on the win.
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Seriously. No joke...Ho Ho Homelessdarleysam wrote:Skull2185 wrote:I do agree that the MS fun bux system is retarded.
Especially for stuff at 1200 points. I could buy 1600 points for $20, but I usually end up buying 800 points and then 400 because it comes out to $15. Why there's no $15 1200 point option is beyond me...
Yes, but I'm still not talking about buying points of any value, or putting money into a wallet in my console, or any of those kinds of solutions. Being able to buy 1200 points would still be buying 1200 points, or being able to put $15 on my account would still involve the same process as buying points anyway. I'm saying the whole system has to be simpler and quicker. See game, buy game.
edit: amnesiasoft, that's something I'm well aware of, that by using points you can effectively get 'free' money by paying less for the points card than the actual value of the points. But that's one of the things that stops me at times, because I think "I must be able to find cheaper points elsewhere", so I won't get the ones I'm looking at. Again, it's a step in the process that impedes the sale.
Sounds more like you're just looking for an excuse to not actually buy anything. Are you this hesitant about buying anything else?
You've already stated you don't have any specific objections to how MS does their points thing, so why does it matter so much about actually buying something?
You're muckin' with a G! -
amnesiasoft wrote:Here's the thing about points though, I'm never going to find a $25 PSN gift card for anything other than... $25. I can get a card for "2000 Microsoft Points" for less than $25.
They do go on sale sometimes.
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It's All UselessChessboard ThinkingMedia Create Sales: Week 39, 2011 (Sep 26 - Oct 02)
01./00. [PSP] Eiyuu Densetsu: Ao no Kiseki # <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2011.09.29} (¥6.090) - 127.938 / NEW
02./00. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 7: Xtreme Legends # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2011.09.29} (¥5.040) - 82.901 / NEW
03./01. [PS3] Dark Souls <RPG> (From Software) {2011.09.22} (¥7.800) - 34.718 / 314.286 (-88%)
04./00. [PSP] Evangelion Shin Gekijoban: 3nd Impact # <ACT> (Bandai Namco) {2011.09.29} (¥6.280) - 16.477 / NEW
05./05. [WII] Dragon Quest 25th Anniversary: Famicom & Super Famicom Dragon Quest I-II-III <RPG> (Square Enix) {2011.09.15} (¥4.440) - 16.298 / 334.472 (-70%)
06./03. [PSP] Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's Tag Force 6 <TBL> (Konami) {2011.09.22} (¥5.250) - 12.452 / 76.801 (-81%)
07./11. [WII] Rhythm Heaven <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.07.21} (¥5.800) - 11.468 / 481.382 (-34%)
08./12. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (PSP the Best) <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.09.22} (¥2.990) - 10.917 / 25.841 (-27%)
09./13. [WII] Wii Sports Resort with Remote Plus <SPT> (Nintendo) {2010.11.11} (¥5.800) - 10.625 / 577.618 (-29%)
10./02. [PS3] The ICO and Shadow of the Colossus Collection <ADV> (SCE) {2011.09.22} (¥6.980) - 10.306 / 102.207 (-89%)
11./06. [3DS] Senran Kagura: Shoujotachi no Shinei <ACT> (Marvelous Entertainment) {2011.09.22} (¥5.980) - 9.914 / 62.121 (-81%)
12./16. [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.06.16} (¥4.800) - 8.830 / 400.564 (-24%)
13./00. [PSP] Wand of Fortune 2: Jikuu ni Shizumu Mokushiroku # <ADV> (Idea Factory) {2011.09.29} (¥6.090) - 8.800 / NEW
14./09. [PS3] Tales of Xillia # <RPG> (Bandai Namco) {2011.09.08} (¥8.379) - 8.618 / 604.003 (-62%)
15./15. [NDS] Kirby Mass Attack <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.08.04} (¥3.800) - 8.219 / 240.034 (-35%)
16./07. [PSP] Busou Shinki: Battle Masters Mk. 2 <ACT> (Konami) {2011.09.22} (¥5.800) - 7.714 / 40.032 (-76%)
17./00. [360] Monster Hunter Frontier Online: Forward .2 Premium Package # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.09.28} (¥6.090) - 6.816 / NEW
18./19. [3DS] Pokemon Rumble Blast <ACT> (Pokemon Co.) {2011.08.11} (¥4.800) - 6.370 / 176.737 (-27%)
19./00. [WII] Family Fishing # <SPT> (Bandai Namco) {2011.08.04} (¥5.040) - 6.218 / 50.622
20./00. [3DS] Flora and Fauna 3D Field Guide <EDU> (Nintendo) {2011.09.29} (¥3.800) - 6.034 / NEW
Top 20
PSP - 6
3DS - 4
PS3 - 4
WII - 4
360 - 1
NDS - 1
HARDWARE
|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
| 3DS | 58.504 | 70.159 | | 1.964.105 | | 1.964.105 |
| PS3 | 30.362 | 39.452 | 20.363 | 1.023.175 | 1.079.247 | 7.110.665 |
| PSP # | 25.415 | 28.548 | 37.842 | 1.530.668 | 1.559.996 | 18.180.880 |
| WII | 10.301 | 14.034 | 13.360 | 518.666 | 1.060.574 | 11.798.301 |
| NDS # | 4.113 | 5.428 | 54.890 | 590.357 | 1.867.206 | 32.741.057 |
| 360 | 2.411 | 3.897 | 2.769 | 87.167 | 164.736 | 1.507.664 |
| PS2 | 1.351 | 1.517 | 1.247 | 60.139 | 64.163 | 21.756.231 |
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ALL | 132.457 | 163.035 | 130.471 | 5.774.277 | 5.795.922 | 95.058.903 |
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DSiLL | 2.382 | 2.991 | 24.246 | 305.651 | 945.637 | 2.253.234
DSi | 1.679 | 2.351 | 24.937 | 264.442 | 740.504 | 5.808.166
DSL | 52 | 86 | 5.707 | 20.264 | 181.065 | 18.094.186
PSPgo | 14 | 15 | 754 | 15.540 | 48.607 | 175.964
PSP | 25.401 | 28.533 | 37.088 | 1.515.128 | 1.511.389 | 18.004.916 |
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Anyone like to go on cruises? Apparently, EA does.
http://www.carnival.com/cms/funship20/default.aspx?cid=DM_Redirect_49
Carnival Cruise Line wrote:If you're into sports, get yourself into the first ever
EA SPORTS™ Bar, which provides the perfect place to catch a game. Grab a drink, watch your favorite games live, and keep up with real-time scores from across the sports world. And if you're feeling that competitive spirit, you can even get hands-on and right into the game with the latest video game titles from
EA SPORTS.
Check out the link, too, it has a pic. There's real TV's + monitors for games on the wall and what looks like a 360 pad at a table lol.
I go on cruises tons (family are some of the top cruise travel agents in the biz, sooo..) and this looks kinda cool.
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Good to see Dark Souls at #3. The numbers are down just a touch, but at least it's still up there in the rankings. Hopefully it'll have somewhat of a long tail, but I don't know how likely that will be.
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Momma Mia!Don't Blink!Hey now, hook a brutha up woth a Cruise, Biz
When a man with a sing-song voice tells me to "fuck off", it becomes my business...boy-o. -
on my way toBarnes and NobleSanta Claustrophobia wrote:darleysam wrote:Skull2185 wrote:I do agree that the MS fun bux system is retarded.
Especially for stuff at 1200 points. I could buy 1600 points for $20, but I usually end up buying 800 points and then 400 because it comes out to $15. Why there's no $15 1200 point option is beyond me...
Yes, but I'm still not talking about buying points of any value, or putting money into a wallet in my console, or any of those kinds of solutions. Being able to buy 1200 points would still be buying 1200 points, or being able to put $15 on my account would still involve the same process as buying points anyway. I'm saying the whole system has to be simpler and quicker. See game, buy game.
edit: amnesiasoft, that's something I'm well aware of, that by using points you can effectively get 'free' money by paying less for the points card than the actual value of the points. But that's one of the things that stops me at times, because I think "I must be able to find cheaper points elsewhere", so I won't get the ones I'm looking at. Again, it's a step in the process that impedes the sale.
Sounds more like you're just looking for an excuse to not actually buy anything. Are you this hesitant about buying anything else?
You've already stated you don't have any specific objections to how MS does their points thing, so why does it matter so much about actually buying something?
I'm really not, which is what got me thinking about this. Playing an Indie or Arcade game and thinking "yeah, this is fun, 60p/£6 is a decent price, I'll buy it" and having it right there and then would be great. What I'm trying to explain is that, as soon as you have to go somewhere else to get points, they become more than just another form of money. Their value to me is more than the X amount that would be taken off for the purchase, because there is also the effort required to get more and yes, the expense of having to spend more than I actually need to right there (see the earlier example of not wanting to spend 80 points because I would then need to buy 800 more to have 1200 usable ones for a new Arcade game). I know it's an absurd situation and I accept I'm probably part of a very small number who actually think like this, but it is how I think. -
well i hate when i buy something and end up with a random amount of points just sitting there. 31 MS points? how in the hell...
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Plus I have some personal issuesI'd kinda like to get fixed.Wow, that PS3 ad is actually pretty good. I swear Sony's marketing department is MPD or something.
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Meelo, no!That's not a toilet!cj iwakura wrote:Media Create Sales: Week 39, 2011 (Sep 26 - Oct 02)
01./00. [PSP] Eiyuu Densetsu: Ao no Kiseki # <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2011.09.29} (¥6.090) - 127.938 / NEW
02./00. [PS3] Dynasty Warriors 7: Xtreme Legends # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2011.09.29} (¥5.040) - 82.901 / NEW
03./01. [PS3] Dark Souls <RPG> (From Software) {2011.09.22} (¥7.800) - 34.718 / 314.286 (-88%)
04./00. [PSP] Evangelion Shin Gekijoban: 3nd Impact # <ACT> (Bandai Namco) {2011.09.29} (¥6.280) - 16.477 / NEW
05./05. [WII] Dragon Quest 25th Anniversary: Famicom & Super Famicom Dragon Quest I-II-III <RPG> (Square Enix) {2011.09.15} (¥4.440) - 16.298 / 334.472 (-70%)
06./03. [PSP] Yu-Gi-Oh! 5D's Tag Force 6 <TBL> (Konami) {2011.09.22} (¥5.250) - 12.452 / 76.801 (-81%)
07./11. [WII] Rhythm Heaven <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.07.21} (¥5.800) - 11.468 / 481.382 (-34%)
08./12. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (PSP the Best) <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.09.22} (¥2.990) - 10.917 / 25.841 (-27%)
09./13. [WII] Wii Sports Resort with Remote Plus <SPT> (Nintendo) {2010.11.11} (¥5.800) - 10.625 / 577.618 (-29%)
10./02. [PS3] The ICO and Shadow of the Colossus Collection <ADV> (SCE) {2011.09.22} (¥6.980) - 10.306 / 102.207 (-89%)
11./06. [3DS] Senran Kagura: Shoujotachi no Shinei <ACT> (Marvelous Entertainment) {2011.09.22} (¥5.980) - 9.914 / 62.121 (-81%)
12./16. [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.06.16} (¥4.800) - 8.830 / 400.564 (-24%)
13./00. [PSP] Wand of Fortune 2: Jikuu ni Shizumu Mokushiroku # <ADV> (Idea Factory) {2011.09.29} (¥6.090) - 8.800 / NEW
14./09. [PS3] Tales of Xillia # <RPG> (Bandai Namco) {2011.09.08} (¥8.379) - 8.618 / 604.003 (-62%)
15./15. [NDS] Kirby Mass Attack <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.08.04} (¥3.800) - 8.219 / 240.034 (-35%)
16./07. [PSP] Busou Shinki: Battle Masters Mk. 2 <ACT> (Konami) {2011.09.22} (¥5.800) - 7.714 / 40.032 (-76%)
17./00. [360] Monster Hunter Frontier Online: Forward .2 Premium Package # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.09.28} (¥6.090) - 6.816 / NEW
18./19. [3DS] Pokemon Rumble Blast <ACT> (Pokemon Co.) {2011.08.11} (¥4.800) - 6.370 / 176.737 (-27%)
19./00. [WII] Family Fishing # <SPT> (Bandai Namco) {2011.08.04} (¥5.040) - 6.218 / 50.622
20./00. [3DS] Flora and Fauna 3D Field Guide <EDU> (Nintendo) {2011.09.29} (¥3.800) - 6.034 / NEW
Top 20
PSP - 6
3DS - 4
PS3 - 4
WII - 4
360 - 1
NDS - 1
HARDWARE
|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
| 3DS | 58.504 | 70.159 | | 1.964.105 | | 1.964.105 |
| PS3 | 30.362 | 39.452 | 20.363 | 1.023.175 | 1.079.247 | 7.110.665 |
| PSP # | 25.415 | 28.548 | 37.842 | 1.530.668 | 1.559.996 | 18.180.880 |
| WII | 10.301 | 14.034 | 13.360 | 518.666 | 1.060.574 | 11.798.301 |
| NDS # | 4.113 | 5.428 | 54.890 | 590.357 | 1.867.206 | 32.741.057 |
| 360 | 2.411 | 3.897 | 2.769 | 87.167 | 164.736 | 1.507.664 |
| PS2 | 1.351 | 1.517 | 1.247 | 60.139 | 64.163 | 21.756.231 |
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ALL | 132.457 | 163.035 | 130.471 | 5.774.277 | 5.795.922 | 95.058.903 |
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DSiLL | 2.382 | 2.991 | 24.246 | 305.651 | 945.637 | 2.253.234
DSi | 1.679 | 2.351 | 24.937 | 264.442 | 740.504 | 5.808.166
DSL | 52 | 86 | 5.707 | 20.264 | 181.065 | 18.094.186
PSPgo | 14 | 15 | 754 | 15.540 | 48.607 | 175.964
PSP | 25.401 | 28.533 | 37.088 | 1.515.128 | 1.511.389 | 18.004.916 |
Wow, the 3DS doesn't have a game in the top 10... yet it still managed to outsell the PSP by over twice as much?
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One possible reason that it doesn't have games in the top 10 is due to the still-just-starting-out install base.
Hardware sales could be anticipation of MH 3 and 4 (and the other games that will do well in Japan like Gundam). -
Seriously. No joke...Ho Ho Homelessdarleysam wrote:Santa Claustrophobia wrote:darleysam wrote:Skull2185 wrote:I do agree that the MS fun bux system is retarded.
Especially for stuff at 1200 points. I could buy 1600 points for $20, but I usually end up buying 800 points and then 400 because it comes out to $15. Why there's no $15 1200 point option is beyond me...
Yes, but I'm still not talking about buying points of any value, or putting money into a wallet in my console, or any of those kinds of solutions. Being able to buy 1200 points would still be buying 1200 points, or being able to put $15 on my account would still involve the same process as buying points anyway. I'm saying the whole system has to be simpler and quicker. See game, buy game.
edit: amnesiasoft, that's something I'm well aware of, that by using points you can effectively get 'free' money by paying less for the points card than the actual value of the points. But that's one of the things that stops me at times, because I think "I must be able to find cheaper points elsewhere", so I won't get the ones I'm looking at. Again, it's a step in the process that impedes the sale.
Sounds more like you're just looking for an excuse to not actually buy anything. Are you this hesitant about buying anything else?
You've already stated you don't have any specific objections to how MS does their points thing, so why does it matter so much about actually buying something?
I'm really not, which is what got me thinking about this. Playing an Indie or Arcade game and thinking "yeah, this is fun, 60p/£6 is a decent price, I'll buy it" and having it right there and then would be great. What I'm trying to explain is that, as soon as you have to go somewhere else to get points, they become more than just another form of money. Their value to me is more than the X amount that would be taken off for the purchase, because there is also the effort required to get more and yes, the expense of having to spend more than I actually need to right there (see the earlier example of not wanting to spend 80 points because I would then need to buy 800 more to have 1200 usable ones for a new Arcade game). I know it's an absurd situation and I accept I'm probably part of a very small number who actually think like this, but it is how I think.
And yet you don't seem to have a problem going somewhere else to get any other game. Unless you have to drive a hundred miles out of your way or are an agoraphobic or something, then getting points cards shouldn't be that much of a hassle.
Instead what you're doing is adding to a game a cost that doesn't really exist. If it's so difficult for you, then don't bother checking out things you won't buy anyway. Otherwise, just come to terms with the fact that every now and again you'll be going some place to buy what amounts to a gift card so that in the future you can buy more stuff that you like.
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Having to buy point cards is a bit of a barrier for me. It's the omnipresent "laziness" barrier. It means I have to make a special trip to the store just for it. And I don't usually have a problem doing it for the really big and/or awesome games, like Shadow Complex. But for everything else, like impulse purchases, it's enough for me to go "meh, screw it".
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The Wolfman wrote:Having to buy point cards is a bit of a barrier for me. It's the omnipresent "laziness" barrier. It means I have to make a special trip to the store just for it. And I don't usually have a problem doing it for the really big and/or awesome games, like Shadow Complex. But for everything else, like impulse purchases, it's enough for me to go "meh, screw it".
but you can buy points directly on your xbox and wii (not sure about PS3) -
Meelo, no!That's not a toilet!Santa's anti-easy, in general. Does he go into the store and buy some ground buffalo for burgers? Heck no! He goes into the woods, strips naked, and subdues a bear with nothing but a pointed stick, uses some surrounding branches, grass and mud to fashion a saddle, then rides the bear into into the plains to kill him some bison.
Because going to the store for meat is for pussies. -
Momma Mia!Don't Blink!cloudeagle wrote:Santa's anti-easy, in general. Does he go into the store and buy some ground buffalo for burgers? Heck no! He goes into the woods, strips naked, and subdues a bear with nothing but a pointed stick, uses some surrounding branches, grass and mud to fashion a saddle, then rides the bear into into the plains to kill him some bison.
Because going to the store for meat is for pussies.
Jesus, that's manly
When a man with a sing-song voice tells me to "fuck off", it becomes my business...boy-o. -
Plus I have some personal issuesI'd kinda like to get fixed.cloudeagle wrote:Santa's anti-easy, in general. Does he go into the store and buy some ground buffalo for burgers? Heck no! He goes into the woods, strips naked, and subdues a bear with nothing but a pointed stick, uses some surrounding branches, grass and mud to fashion a saddle, then rides the bear into into the plains to kill him some bison.
Because going to the store for meat is for pussies.
It might just be because I'm from Alaska but... isn't that supposed to be how you do things? -
Right, he doesn't just get in contact with toy companies like any sane person would.
Nope.
It's always elves. -
Seriously. No joke...Ho Ho HomelessUncleSporky wrote:Right, he doesn't just get in contact with toy companies like any sane person would.
Nope.
It's always elves.
The lawsuits for copyright infringement are a drain.
You're muckin' with a G! -
Xaquin wrote:The Wolfman wrote:Having to buy point cards is a bit of a barrier for me. It's the omnipresent "laziness" barrier. It means I have to make a special trip to the store just for it. And I don't usually have a problem doing it for the really big and/or awesome games, like Shadow Complex. But for everything else, like impulse purchases, it's enough for me to go "meh, screw it".
but you can buy points directly on your xbox and wii (not sure about PS3)
Yes, but I would really rather not give Microsoft my CC info, for a multitude of reasons that have been constantly discussed by many people. -
Well, so far its only been those with PS3s that have really had to worry about that.
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Brainiac 8 wrote:http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/04/opinion/bennett-men-in-trouble/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
More lulz?
Today, 18-to- 34-year-old men spend more time playing video games a day than 12-to- 17-year-old boys. While women are graduating college and finding good jobs, too many men are not going to work, not getting married and not raising families. Women are beginning to take the place of men in many ways. This has led some to ask: do we even need men?So what's wrong? Increasingly, the messages to boys about what it means to be a man are confusing. The machismo of the street gang calls out with a swagger. Video games, television and music offer dubious lessons to boys who have been abandoned by their fathers. Some coaches and drill sergeants bark, "What kind of man are you?" but don't explain.We may need to say to a number of our twenty-something men, "Get off the video games five hours a day, get yourself together, get a challenging job and get married." It's time for men to man up.
Girly men, get a real job!
Sorry to dredge this up but....
I think we can all agree that this is ridiculous, but it bothers me to no end when they talk about video games as though they are the only friviolous use of one's free time.
I mean honestly, how many non-video game players waste hours of their day watching things like project runway, america's next top model and jersey shore? I believe that these are even bigger wastes of time, and probably (I have no data to back this up) appeal more to women than men. I play games instead of watching garbage TV.
Its irritating that awful reality TV is an acceptable waste of time, but for many, video games are not.
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