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[Binding of Isaac] Get out of the basement and into the cellar. Expansion HERE!

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  • ShimshaiShimshai Registered User regular
    Got Epic Fetus while playing as XXX, made the run completely trivial. Even nailed the secret boss at the end too!


    I though I was never going to beat the new boss with XXX.

    Steam/Origin: Shimshai
  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    Hmm... my Steam just updated the soundtrack with the three new tracks, including that awesome 'final boss' track with the electric guitar. DannyB ended up titling it My Innermost Apocalypse. Very cool track.

  • ContentContextContentContext Registered User regular
    Kupi wrote: »
    Ahahahaha, wow. Habit + Book of Revelations is awesome. Especially if you find an Arcade when you're full up on red Hearts and have plenty of cash to spare...

    I had that, plus the Wafer and the Virus. I beat the boss by repeatedly running into him. The arcade would've been that much better if you had the Bloody Penny.

  • Magus`Magus` Registered User regular
    Also outside some new boss 'colours' there will be no more new content for BoI.

  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    Was trying to finish Large Marge last night and I just could not get a run going. Couldn't get any damage up, almost all pill effects were really bad. I saw Lemon Mishap 4 times in 3 runs and Pageant Boy at least 3 times from bosses, which is really shitty.

    I went to almost none of the secret rooms because they're almost impossible to find on XL levels and the ones I did manage to find were all mob secret rooms with nothing good in them.

    Very frustrating.

  • Magus`Magus` Registered User regular
    The last patch REALLY changed the rate of certain items spawning. Stuff I haven't seen in awhile (POOOOOP) I've run into a few times now. Haven't seen some of the best items in awhile.

  • DratatooDratatoo Registered User regular
    I have no life. Is this supposed to happen?

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  • DratatooDratatoo Registered User regular
    Ignore this post.

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  • MrDelishMrDelish Registered User regular
    Magus` wrote: »
    The last patch REALLY changed the rate of certain items spawning. Stuff I haven't seen in awhile (POOOOOP) I've run into a few times now. Haven't seen some of the best items in awhile.

    I tried Samson today and did not get a single good item in the treasure rooms/boss item spawn for a good 20 tries on the first floor.

    edit: I don't think I'll ever get The Halo now. I haven't seen the Bible in over a hundred playthroughs

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  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    Oh thank god, I finally got a Large Marge run going. Got the Nail and Battery on the Basement, then later I got Cancer and the Strange Mushroom. My fire rate was fucking ridiculous, I was just a machine gun. 9 lives and The Purist left to go for Challenges...

    I've gotten the Holy Water like 3 or 4 times in a row now, it's getting stupid. Not only is it a shitty item, it's bugged. I got Harlequin Baby after it and whenever Holy Water was active, H-Baby would be Brother Bobby. If I got hit and shattered the Holy Water, it would turn back into the proper Harlequin Baby. Super annoying. The Bean is showing up a retarded amount of the time too.

  • Magus`Magus` Registered User regular
    Yeah I still have 5 of the 7 characters left to get a Polaroid with and finish the final level.

    Note, on the final level every room has 2-3 bosses in it AND you cannot bomb your way out of the room. You also cannot enter the secret room even if you have an item that shows it (bug?).

  • MoosehatIVMoosehatIV Registered User regular
    Ug, Lord of the Flies is frustrating. For some reason I am getting absolutely no damage upgrades of any kind. If I am lucky I get a health item or two, but that is it. Just piles of junk items that are no help at all.

  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    Well, I put Large Marge on hold for a bit and had started some ??? runs since I still need to unlock Rainbow Baby.

    Unfortunately, ??? runs are just about as frustrating... I had a couple runs that were just about there and a lot of runs that were just fucking pathetic. But I just finished my successful run, and though at one point I traded 3 of my 4 spirit hearts for Spirit of the Night and wandered around with 1 heart for a while, I ended up with Dr Fetus, Homing bombs and spirit hearts off the screen, mostly because two of my pills were Balls of Steel and Health Up and I got a lot of both of them during the run. In fact, I didn't even get hit on the Isaac fight, had the Pinking Shears body tearing him up while I fired bombs in from a slightly off angle, hardly had to dodge at all. My meat cube and fly shield took care of the shots that got too close/should've hit me. That said, my dodging is finally getting back up to speed again. Fucking blue baby...

    On the ??? runs I did get a bunch of items to my collection though, including the Pinking Shears actually. One of the runs I grabbed 9 Lives for the hell of it and ended up dying on Utero 1 against Conquest, so my deaths finally hit over 100 which kind of sucks because at one point I had almost twice as many Mom kills as deaths... was something like 56 to 100. Now it's like 102 to 117.

    I'm missing 10 items to my collection, two of which I've seen before (and recently) and could've sworn I picked up but apparently didn't. The White Pony and Portable Slot were two I saw in today's runs, but thought I had already picked up so I didn't grab them. Otherwise I'm missing Infestation, Rainbow Baby, Dad's Key, Celtic Cross, Ghost Baby, Daddy Long Legs, Switch Blade and Guppy's Hair Ball.

    Guess it's back to try to get Large Marge done...

  • Magus`Magus` Registered User regular
    Getting ??? to the final, FINAL, FINAL boss is gonna suck since even if I get amazing items (low chance) I still need to find the Polaroid in the same run.

  • MrDelishMrDelish Registered User regular
    The changed boss drops (Pageant Boy and the awful CHAD drop, among others) coupled with the decreased frequency of tear/damage increases in treasure rooms have basically made me stop trying to beat Sheol or the Cathedral with the not-Cain characters. My guess is that I won't beat Cathedral with any of those without getting the Epic Fetus.

  • shalmeloshalmelo sees no evil Registered User regular
    Ahaha - I just discovered the glory that is Yum Heart combined with the nun's Habit.

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  • Magus`Magus` Registered User regular
    It's even better if you get Little Chad, the Bloody Penny, the Nun's Habit and the Book of Revelations and run into a blood bank (or several). Oh and Money = Power.

  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    Pageant Boy drops all the fucking time from bosses. It's annoying as hell because it's so bad. Especially as a reward for beating a boss, tough to get a run going when you get that early on.

    The Purist feels nearly impossible now, I really wish I would've gotten it done before the rebalancing.

  • heenatoheenato Registered User regular
    I don't mind pageant boy so much, since if I'm not using cain...well then it's one of the only ways I will EVER get coins.

    Of course, that doesn't really help that much, I suppose, when the game then decided to not give me a single key for three floors.

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  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Registered User regular
    Playing the expansion with a clean install is brutal.

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  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    Yeah, the expansion content should kind of be gated off until you reach certain requirements or something. Kind of like how you can't get to the Womb until you've beaten Mom and can't get to Sheol until you've done It Lives. At that point or so you'd at least have a decent basis for handling the expansion content.

    I haven't tried it myself but I'd dare say that the game is probably almost broken if you have the expansion and are starting fresh.

  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Registered User regular
    It's not broken, by any means, just much harder.

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  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    Fuck yes, finally got The Purist challenge complete.

    It was going ok, not great. I had to fight Ultra Pride on like Caves 1 but whatever, the Left Hand resulted in me getting the Cursed Tail, Guppy's Head and Guppy's Paw from red chests on the Necropolis XL. After I beat Mom, I ported out of the boss room, grabbed the Paw and turned all but one of my hearts into spirit hearts. I then realized that the last item had turned me into Guppy, which I didn't think was anything special until I realized that Guppy apparently has flying by default and the Mulligan. I already had a pretty good fire rate from Tears Up pills, so I was spawning flies pretty damn fast.

    I almost got Mama's Boy but I got hit on Womb 2's Boss Challenge room which got me the Pentagram (to go with the Pact and the Mark for my damage ups). Between lots of Balls of Steel pills, lots of red chests spawning from the Left Hand giving spirit hearts, and a couple more real heart upgrades turned into spirit hearts (along with one of two Crystal Balls I got from blown Fortune Tellers), I had to have had somewhere around 40-50 health by the time I got to Isaac. I ripped him apart, didn't even bother dodging, it didn't matter.

    The annoying thing is, I had a ton of money, courtesy of a slot machine blowing up into the dollar bill on Necropolis XL, and I ran into 3 different Fortune Tellers, I played them all until they blew up and I didn't get a single Polaroid. Not sure if it would've let me go to the Chest while on the Purist Challenge or not, but god damn. On the room right before Isaac, I got the Tick out of a Fortune Teller, so I swapped the Left Hand for that.

  • Magus`Magus` Registered User regular
    Eww, you don't have the no-hit achievements yet? Those have got to have gotten 5x harder with the alt floors/new enemies now.

  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    Oh I know. I fucking hate the Necropolis floors, all the layouts are assholes and full of greed heads and shit. Utero is pretty terrible too. It's why I'm pretty annoyed that I got hit just once with that overpowered run... dammit.

    Edit: Actually, I might not even have the Polaroid unlocked yet... is there an achievement for it? Because of how buggy the title screen was being, I never saw the progress. I know I've beaten Isaac with every character now (I have the achievement for all of their items), but I don't think I ever got an unlock for the Polaroid.

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  • EvilBadmanEvilBadman DO NOT TRUST THIS MAN Registered User regular
    Dranyth wrote: »
    Oh I know. I fucking hate the Necropolis floors, all the layouts are assholes and full of greed heads and shit. Utero is pretty terrible too. It's why I'm pretty annoyed that I got hit just once with that overpowered run... dammit.

    Edit: Actually, I might not even have the Polaroid unlocked yet... is there an achievement for it? Because of how buggy the title screen was being, I never saw the progress. I know I've beaten Isaac with every character now (I have the achievement for all of their items), but I don't think I ever got an unlock for the Polaroid.

    If you cleared Cathedral with everyone, the Polaroid should be showing up. Of course it's an RNG bitch, but it should be on the table. Edmund said that the next update should make Polaroid runs easier.

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  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    So I heard. But if there's an actual secret unlock or Steam achievement for the Polaroid, I don't have it.

  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    Ah hah, I just got another Isaac kill and got the message for the Polaroid getting unlocked. So I think I needed to beat the game once more after I finished it with ???, being the last character I had needed to beat it with.

    Ended up being a pretty ridiculous run... fairly low damage, but I got Cancer and the Strange Mushroom, so my fire rate was utterly insane. I was also getting heart upgrades left and right. At one point I had 12 containers, got a devil room with Lord of the Pit and The Nail for two hearts each. I already had Book of Rev at that point, but I bought both anyway. I still ended the game with 10 real heart containers and tons of spirit hearts though, so it was all good.

    I got the Portable Slot and Celtic Cross for my collection too, so 8 more to go.

  • MrDelishMrDelish Registered User regular
    The mask + heart enemies always spawn in the worst rooms.

    Frankly, I think I'm done with this game unless it's patched back to its former glory. It's just a chore as it is now.

  • ShimshaiShimshai Registered User regular
    After being resurrected by the Ankh, any time I would take damage I would immediately be teleported to the previous room as though I was being rezzed again.

    Intended behaviour or bug? As it is now, it's pretty much useless.

    Steam/Origin: Shimshai
  • Magus`Magus` Registered User regular
    Did you have the Cursed Skull?

  • ShimshaiShimshai Registered User regular
    I have no idea.

    Did I?

    Steam/Origin: Shimshai
  • Magus`Magus` Registered User regular
    Cursed SKull + ??? = Always getting teleported out on hit.

  • Magus`Magus` Registered User regular
    So I had an amazing Blue Baby run. Got Ipecac, then Transcendence in the same floor, then the Nail from Satan. Just burned my way through every room I could find and got to the Cathedral with over 50 spirit hearts and just tearing ass.

    Shame it was a waste of time cause I didn't find the Polaroid despite spending over 100 cents on fortune telling machines (they explode much too easily).

    This is the look of failure, embrace it:

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  • DranythDranyth Surf ColoradoRegistered User regular
    So, I don't know if anyone here also checks out the Steam board for Isaac, but I saw this posted yesterday
    ForteGSOmega found out a weird script related Fortune Teller Machine:

    If you don't have Bob's Rotten Head
    Random fortune: 65%
    Fortune teller explodes: 1.75%
    Fortune teller explodes and leaves Crystal Ball: 1.11%
    Random Trinket: 10.71%
    Soul Heart: 7.14%
    Random Card: 14.29% (again, if a card is dropped, it's 80% for tarot card and 20% for deck card)

    If you have Bob's Rotten Head
    Random fortune: 0%
    Fortune teller explodes: 5%
    Fortune teller explodes and leaves Crystal Ball: 3.17%
    Random Trinket: 30.61%
    Soul Heart: 20.41%
    Random Card: 40.81%
    http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2767661

    Reading the rest of the thread, it appears as though it's a bug in that the effect is supposed to be attached to the Lucky Toe trinket, but it ended up on Bob's Rotten Head instead. Oops.

    Anyway, because of this, if you manage to get Bob's Rotten Head and can find some Fortune Teller machines, it may be a bit easier to get the Polaroid.

    It sucks a bit, because that run I had where I turned into Guppy, on the floor I turned into Guppy I had been carrying around Bob's Head for most of it and there was one Fortune Teller, but I don't think I played it until after I had picked up Guppy's Head, so I lost the effect. Granted, I think on that run I hadn't yet unlocked the Polaroid, so it wouldn't have done me any good, but still.

    I still think there's something severely wrong with the random number generator for this game. I will see the exact same room layout/enemies two rooms in a row all the fucking time. And there are things like, using the D6 to reroll The Poop and having it turn into Lemon Mishap. I've had that happen twice in a row recently, and that just seems like something that really shouldn't happen with as many potential items as there are in the game now. Very strange.

  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    I suck so so bad at this game. I've been playing it off and on since release but I have yet to even SEE Mom much less get to the level she's on.

  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Registered User regular
    This fucking expansion needs to be rebalance for people who're playing from a fresh install.

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  • ShimshaiShimshai Registered User regular
    Yeah, it's tough enough even with everything unlocked. A patch that allowed you to select just the vanilla game would be greatly appreciated.

    Steam/Origin: Shimshai
  • Magus`Magus` Registered User regular
    Can't you run one of the exes to play the original?

    That being said, I think the game being in Flash kind of limits a lot of what could be done. Apparently it 'barely works' as is.

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