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Our Stupid Voting System! Now With Reform Legislation?
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Pointing out that the republicans are using identity politics (antagonizing minority votes, shoring up white votes with scary voter fraud) is nothing but divisive identity politics!
If we can get either a vetoproof legislature in (if Romney wins) or a filibuster-proof legislature (if Obama wins), the first order of business should be the outlawing of voter ID programs, unless they are free and MAILED to registered voters.
Wow. Stay classy, Florida Republicans.
While I'm happy my absentee re-register in Orange County was completed without a hitch, I hope this leads to more charges. Not necessarily in my county.
No, I mean that there should not be any cost whatsoever to voters, all costs absorbed by the gov't. Do you live in a rural voting area? Come to your polling station and pick up your voter ID before you vote! Already a registered voter with a valid address? Hey, it arrives by mail! Free. No extra tax from government, no cuts from public welfare systems. Maybe the legislature won't be able to vote themselves a payraise for one year, but hey, that's the price you gotta pay to be a public servant.
how you gonna get the pictures?
And a complete lack of major news stations covering it.
God damn what does the GOP have to do to make it to the front page? Systematically murder people?
White people
Seems to me if you know your name, SSN, and DOB, you should probably be able to get your license renewed/get a new copy based on that alone. I mean the document has a picture of you - one would think they should be able to tell it's you at the DMV requesting it.
Getting my out-of-state license converted in DC was ridiculous. I had to have four pieces of information:
Proof of identity
Proof of SSN
Proof of Current Residency
Proof of ability to drive
They all had to be separate documents. So I needed my passport (or birth cert), SSN card, a bill/lease with my address (but NOT a cell phone bill), and my driver's license. Based on this process I assume there are tons of poorer people in DC driving around without a license. Getting a replacement is easy though, all you need is you driver's license number, SSN, DOB, and you can do it online.
Rich white people.
Pretty rich white people. No room for uggos in the news.
Where do they have a picture of you though?
Cause anyone could have your name, SSN and DOB.
I don't know, have you seen Sheldon Adelson? Man looks like a melted cat.
Presumably on the license they're reissuing, when I had an ID card reissued a few years ago they didn't take a new photo or anything so it was on file
Previous ID pictures, or a van that goes out to registered voters.
Essentially, what I'm getting at is that it's a shitty idea, and the amount of trouble it would cost to the state to make it constitutional is ridiculous and not worth the effort for what basically amounts to there not being a problem.
So, I'm all for these voter ID laws being unconstitutional unless an extremely crazy and overly expensive set of guarantees is made to ensure nobody, not one single voter, is left out.
Well if I'm renewing or replacing my license, they have the picture I had taken when I got the license in the first place.
The logistics of getting a photo ID to everyone to vote are ridiculous. That's one of the many reasons why we shouldn't have to produce IDs to vote.
Shame for you that It was one of your elected officials casting the absentee ballots for the deceased.
It seems that every time the GOP whines about something, projection is involved.
Funniest thing?
A photo ID law wouldn't have stopped this either
That just means requiring a photo ID isn't enough.
eclectablog.com/2012/08/breaking-supreme-court-orders-elections-board-to-certify-emergency-mgr-law-repeal-petitions.html
So being from the area. I'm super not happy about this. So unethical. Probably totally legal, but just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
PSN : Bolthorn
Fits here fine, I think, seeing as it was quickly becoming an actual way to remove elected officials and not just manage municipal debt. The next two cities being targeted weren't in immediate danger - ass over head over another ass in debt but not behind on payments and safe at least until the end of this year.
So, despite Snyder vetoing it and the courts blocking it, it happened anyway: Michigan voters had to affirm their citizenship to vote. Only by checkbox and not oath, but still, wasn't supposed to happen. Officially it wasn't supposed to be enforced, but poll workers were still told to enforce it. New instructions were issued around noon, but my personal experience (Saginaw Township precinct 3) they were still using it to stop people from voting at 6:30 PM.
Also, since the last post in the thread was about the state's emergency manager bill, the matter is on the ballot and the law is supposed to be suspended pending the election in November. Snyder found a clever loophole and signed an older repealed version of it back into law and put the managers back in the cities they'd already taken over. It halts plans for a few pending takeovers of non-failing cities, but leaves Flint and other cities in the same spot they were trying to get out of.
http://www.freep.com/article/20120806/NEWS15/120806071/Previous-Michigan-emergency-manager-law-will-go-back-into-effect-attorney-general-rules
Interestingly, there was also a good bit of outright vote fraud in the state this cycle. When Thaddeus McCotter couldn't get enough signatures to be on the ballot for reelection, his volunteers just start filling in names. Another Republican, afraid he would get primaried out by a teapartier, filled out absentee ballots on behalf of seniors living in nursing homes. And of course there's always some level of zombie voting in the absentee system. None of which any of the "election integrity" laws Snyder vetoed would have done anything to stop.
pffft... Most of the "beautiful/pretty" white women that go missing are about as average looking as it gets, yet we never hear the end of how "beautiful" they are with every news show it gets covered on.
Mother. Fucker. It's time to put these fuckers up against the wall.
Of course he would be, that asshole wants to give White Walkers the right to vote.
I don't think the Republicans would have a problem with White Walkers voting.
Now, men who've taken the Black, on the other hand. How are we to know they didn't vote, then pledge themselves to the Night's Watch, and then vote again?
Thats true, they dont even care how the country is run, they say they'll do their "thing" regardless!
Most of those that have taken the black are convicted felons anyway.
But their crimes are forgiven when they take the black. Although I guess a condition of the pardon is that they dont engage in politics.
oh just kidding, it's not fraud since it's a white republican
move along!