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edited March 21 in Graphic Violence
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/comics-16/transformers-more-than-meets-the-eye-and-robots-in-disguise-comics-coming-in-jan-2012-173600/
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Season 1 and Dark Cybertron are on their way to a close. Long Live Cybertron, the Dark is followed by the Dawn of the Autobots!
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/comics-16/robots-in-disguise-issue-28-preview-179528/
http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/comics-16/transformers-windblade-1-preview-179485/

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  • MastaPMastaP Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    The creative teams don't inspire the same excitement in me as they do in other fans, but the Death of Optimus Prime stuff has really captured my attention, so if I like that, I may continue with RiD.

    I am very amused by Bumblebee suddenly having his War For Cybertron body, yet still using his cane.

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  • CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    Optimus died again? Didn't he already die once or twice or have a near death...two or three times since IDW got the property?

    Not counting all those other deaths that came before in other continuities.

    Not inspired by Roche, didn't care for what he's done so far.

  • AntimatterAntimatter Registered User regular
    He isn't really dead, he's resigned. That's why Rodimus and Bumblebee are in charge, because he's done leading.

  • MatevMatev Benjamin Warsaw, Action Six News! It's Benji.......like the dogRegistered User regular
    I'm noting a cautious interest. Mostly I'm just here for Hearts of Steel.

    "Go down, kick ass, and set yourselves up as gods, that's our Prime Directive!"
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  • AntimatterAntimatter Registered User regular
    Buttlord wrote:
    I just read the Last Stand of the Wreckers mini. Holy shit, that was just the best goddamn thing. Top to bottom, it was fantastic. I think I'm hard.
    Buttlord wrote:
    Like I just went from "Pffft IDW" to "SHIT YES" based solely on that (and I'm only reading these because of the jump-on point in January)

  • azith28azith28 Registered User regular
    Seriously?....Bumblebee as a leader?

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Registered User regular
    It is a little silly, but the dude's been upgraded to have a better body, and he's been doing a decent job keeping morale up.

  • TexiKenTexiKen knowing me knowing Yule a Partridge in a Pear TreeRegistered User regular
    edited October 2011
    Seems like Bumblebee is the Cyclops side, so if Hound isn't there then WTF.

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Registered User regular
    Hound is very likely going to be in Robots In Disguise! He's on Cybertron right now, hasn't been killed in Chaos as far as I know, and Cybertron's going to be inhabited by everyone that hasn't died or isn't going exploring with Rodimus's crew.

  • MastaPMastaP Registered User regular
    edited October 2011
    Variants for each book:
    More Than Meets The Eye
    Spoiler:
    Robots in Disguise
    Spoiler:

    Drift being in MTMTE may make me pick up the title. I have no affection for the character, but that fact that he's there may mean that there will be less of the over-referencing and sometimes even smugness that I've disliked about Robert's previous Transformers works.

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Registered User regular
    I REALLY haven't noticed smugness in his work. I will grant that he draws on a hell of a lot of references, but he's really into the history of the franchise, and it's nice for people of various levels of knowledge to read a story and go "hey! I get that."

    dude really loves giant robots, and it's exciting to see that someone cares that much.

  • AntimatterAntimatter Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    okay

    more news about the status quo re: Earth from Transformers #29
    Spoiler tagged in case anyone cares about specifics
    Spoiler:
    that's the end of the Last Earth Story

    in short, no more Autobots on Earth for the foreseeable future

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Registered User regular
    http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=35341
    interview with John Barber and James Roberts
    art from The Death of Optimus Prime, which was going to be called Schism before the X-Men series was announced
    tons of neat info about the two series

    @TexiKen, Hound will be in More Than Meets The Eye

  • TexiKenTexiKen knowing me knowing Yule a Partridge in a Pear TreeRegistered User regular
    That's.......interesting. I'd kind of hope to get some kind of reasoning on that in the first issue of More Than Meets the Eye.

    I do like what was written about Robots in Disguise, about how Bumblebee is just trying to be nice to everyone and has to deal with trying to unite those who really don't care about what he's trying to do.

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  • CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    First IDW gets grief about the whole World War III thing in G.I.Joe from DC even though IDW did their WWIII event first and now Schism with marvel for Transformers....they sure got luck with that huh.

    Does seem interesting.

  • AntimatterAntimatter Registered User regular
    I'm really liking the interior art for Death of Optimus Prime. I mean, I know I'm biased, but I love Nick's lines and Burcham's colors, and those designs of the neutral Cybertronians look really fucking cool. Definitely not the standard looking G1 style robot, or a movie style alien walking chandelier.
    I am curious about Hound being with Rodimus, but Roberts did say that each of the members of his team each has a different understanding of why they're there.
    Plus, woo, Gears is on the team and they're supposed to be the robo-Avengers!

    Also, poor Rodimus's gotten bad redesigns ever since All Hail Megatron. His look in Furman's run was tits.

  • CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    So I got to ask what happened to Rodimus, I take it was the Matrix he got blown out into space that fixed him up?

    Who has it now.

    And what's Megs doing, I heard he got armored up some.

  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    How would you pitch this series to someone who grew up with "Transformers" or watched the recent movies but has not been reading the IDW comics?

    Roberts: In a single sentence: the new series are going to be bold and thrilling and funny and dark, the way the best comics should be.

    "Transformers" has been around for over a quarter of a century, and in that time, there have been so many comics, cartoons, toy ranges and movies that it can be hard to keep track of what's what. For people on the outside looking in -- and I'm talking about people who saw the show as a kid, or had a few of the toys, or who saw the live action films and want to find out more -- it can be difficult to know where to start, certainly as far as the comics are concerned.

    As much as I love the "Transformers" comics universe that IDW has been publishing, it can be difficult for someone to just dip into -- there's a feeling that you need to know your continuity to fully appreciate what's going on. Also, the sheer number of G1 characters, and the scale of the story -- this is an intergalactic war that raged for four million years -- can make it difficult for casual fans, or the simply curious, to find their bearings. With "Chaos" and "The Death of Optimus Prime," the TF comics universe is tidied up, ready for the next phase. I mean, yes, there are still threads left hanging, and not every question from the last six years has been answered, but there's a sense that everything is in its place, and the mechanics of the G1 universe are easily grasped: at the start of "MTMTE," which is the first of the two ongoing series to launch, everyone that matters is on Cybertron, and the story flows organically from that point on.

    While emphatically not a reboot, the new series do allow anyone with the remotest interest in massive alien robots to rediscover what they loved about "Transformers" in the first place.

    That is not a pitch. I had to read the full article to get the gist of what is going on, and I still don't get it even though I probably should and there is an assumption that I should.

    And as such, I don't particularly care. I remember reading or flipping through the beginning of Last Stand. Seemed neat, and then something happened and I stopped reading it. So I'm not averse to it, but I am not getting a really good idea other than comparing it to X-Men, which is another thing I don't care much about.

    So, someone here give me your elevator pitch.

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Registered User regular
    Okay, @Crimsondude, two teams, two viewpoints, two comics.


    To explain Chaos and The Death of Optimus Prime, Chaos is a currently ongoing event. Judging from the various solicits and promotions, here are the apparent results of Chaos, all that you need to know:
    The Transformers have left Earth, and have no reason to go back at the moment.
    Galvatron, an entity separate from Megatron, led an army to conquer Cybertron, and failed.
    Megatron and the Decepticons have lost the Civil War to the Autobots.
    Cybertron, long lost to the Transformer race, is safe to live on after millions of years, but it isn't in the best shape.
    The thousands, maybe millions of Cybertronians that didn't take sides in the Civil War and left Cybertron have come back.
    Something occurs to get Optimus Prime to stand down as leader, if not truly die.


    The number ones will take place after Optimus stops leading the Autobots. Two of his followers try to fill his shoes.
    Roche and Roberts, the Last Stand creative team, are doing an action book called More Than Meets The Eye starring Rodimus and a team of followers travelling around the galaxy to try to restore Cybertron to its former glory by seeking a legendary group of heroes, the Knights of Cybertron. It should get into what Cybertronian culture used to be, and have multiple personalities bouncing off each other. But, as Roberts says in his unsuccessful pitch, all of the characters start out on Cybertron and then go exploring.

    Meanwhile, Barber and Griffith are doing a book called Robots In Disguise that has Bumblebee trying to lead Cybertron and bring together Autobots, former Decepticons, and new arrivals to the planet who had left after the Cybertronian Civil War made it uninhabitable for millions of years. Bumblebee is trying to create a new future and do the right thing. Starscream, Megatron's ex-lieutenant is in this book, likely going to cause havoc. Cyclonus, Galvatron's ex-lieutenant, is going to be in the book too, but like Starscream's role, it's unknown what he's going to do for sure. Bumblebee will have to try to get multiple factions and viewpoints together and not kill each other, hopefully creating a new future.

    So, that's the ideological struggle, try to bring Cybertron back to exactly how it was, or try something not tried before.


  • AntimatterAntimatter Registered User regular
    Cade wrote:
    So I got to ask what happened to Rodimus, I take it was the Matrix he got blown out into space that fixed him up?

    Who has it now.

    And what's Megs doing, I heard he got armored up some.

    Rodimus gave the Matrix back to Optimus Prime, he felt the leader of the Autobots deserved it most. But, it's been hinted that Rodimus deserves the Matrix more than Optimus. Meanwhile, yeah, Megatron is in a huge, armored, extremely powerful form. He's fighting against Galvatron's troops singlehandedly right now. No idea what happens to Megatron following the Chaos event.

  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    So the shorter pitch is: Left Earth. Decepticons Lost. Civilian Diaspora and Autobots/Decepticons al return to Cybertron. A/Ds split among themselves on how to rebuild. Disaspora pretty much hates all of them anyway. Prime is dead. Bumblebee and Rodimus lead the two factions.

    Sounds intriguing.

    Their elevator pitch should be something like, "Autobots won the war, and now Bumblebee and Rodimus are divided on how to lead all the Autobots, Decepticons, and returned Diaspora to rebuild Cybertron. Oh, Optimus is dead."

    The idea is to sell it in one sentence. After that it becomes magnitudes more difficult. The current motto for Shadowrun is, "Twenty years of shooting people in the face for money." If you don't like that, it becomes immeasurably more difficult to sell the product.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Death Groupie Registered User regular
    Jesus H Christ.
    Spoiler:

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  • MastaPMastaP Registered User regular
    TRANSFORMERS, Vol. 6: Chaos : Police Action
    Mike Costa (w) • Brendan Cahill & E.J. Su (a) • Marcelo Matere (c)
    While there is much “CHAOS” on Cybertron, there’s no less bedlam here on Earth as our remaining Autobots investigate the accusation that Spike, their trusted human ally, murdered a TRANSFORMER. Prowl and Jazz take center stage as the alliance between the two races are on the brink. Also includes the Prowl Spotlight.
    TPB • FC • $17.99 • 104 pages • ISBN 978-1-61377-164-8
    Expected in-store date: 2/8/12

    Bullet points:
    • Collects issues #25, 27 & 29 of the ongoing series, along with the TRANSFORMERS: Spotlight: Prowl issue!

    Oh thank god. I was worried that Police Action and Chaos wouldn't have separate trades. Because I really did enjoy the former, but I couldn't get three issues into the latter.

  • AntimatterAntimatter Registered User regular
    yeah, Police Action was genuinely good

    because it was the last earth story

  • MastaPMastaP Registered User regular
    It's such a strange reversal. Before Chaos Costa's best work was with the space stuff, and then it switched completely when space became the main focus. Maybe he's just better at character driven sidestories (actually, scratch that, after comparing Cobra with Blackhawks, I KNOW he's just better at character driven sidestories).

    I will say this: taking them away from earth forever does take away the whole "robots who turn into cool, recognizable things" aspect. We'll see though, I'll give each a shot.

    Another minor complaint: Having both titles names after successive lines in a theme song means I get them confused all the time.

  • AntimatterAntimatter Registered User regular
    yeah, costa's character stuff is great, but i don't dig the rest of his work

    and chaos is a fucking mess right now

    i can understand what you mean about the alt-modes, but cybertronian culture is one of my favorite things to look at, so i'm gonna enjoy the looks at that

    as for the titles, yeaaaaaaaaah
    but hey, that'll likely get people to pick it up just because "hey, I remember this!"

  • ReignerReigner Registered User regular
    Chaos is a mess because for one they picked probably the worst artist possible to draw the arc.

    And they threw characters in out of no-where. Drift is suddenly on Cybertron with Optimus and the gang but where the blue hell was he before that and how did he suddenly get there.

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Registered User regular
    to be fair

    Drift was in Space Opera's final part on Omega Supreme's rocket

  • MunchMunch Registered User regular
    So, on the advice of Anti, I purchased and read Last Stand of the Wreckers.

    It was pretty good.

    It has a pretty simple, and compelling story; a giant Autobot-run prison has been captured by a rogue Decepticon, and a special team of Autobots must infiltrate the prison, free their captured comrades, and mount an escape. It's kind of like The Great Escape, but with more robots.

    There are twists, and turns, with dark secrets revealed, and characters behaving in ways that are compelling, and believable. There's snappy dialogue, funny jokes, good art, a compelling antagonist, and an ending that almost makes you feel sorry for the bad guy.

    I can totally get behind all that.

    Where it broke down for me, was in the minutiae, and little tangents the story would take, with minor characters. There's one character who, over the course of the five issues, makes three appearances; once when he's defending the prison from assault, once when he's in a gladiatorial death match, and once when his mangled body is later found by a group of characters. All to set up a reveal about the lead antagonist, that's ultimately pretty minor. Another minor character, a Decepticon, has a decent amount of page time devoted to his character arc, which ultimately winds up petering out, resolving in anti-climax.

    My other big issue with the book, was that it was way too hard to differentiate, and remember, who the huge cast of characters were. My only real exposure to Transformers, is through Beast Wars, and the animated movie that came out during the 80's. Which, I still love and watch quite often. That movie made it really easy to differentiate between everyone.

    Kup; marine-blue guy, craggy and old.

    Springer; green guy, confident and skilled.

    Blur; blue guy, talks fast.

    Hotrod; red guy, young and hotheaded.

    Arcee; pink, level-headed lady-robot.

    Dinobots; fucking dinosaur-robots.

    In Last Stand of the Wreckers, I had a bit more of a hard time with it. Minor characters just kind of show up, drifting in and out of the story with little time to expound on who they are. And the character designs, which have slightly more jumbled color palettes than the cartoons, really didn't help me out, in differentiating between characters.

    Just as an example, three Decepticons, Skyquake, Stalker, and Snare, are share a lot of design similarities. They all have orange mouth-plates, green eyes, and grey-black heads. When one of the characters is killed early on, and another shows up later, I had to flip back, and make sure I didn't miss something. When another character is introduced, I had to flip back again, and make sure this was a whole new guy.

    There's also the two Autobots who are on the same team, Guzzle and Ironfist, both of whom share some design similarities, with short, rotund bodies, and big turret barrels jutting off their backs. Or Pyro, who straight up looks like a skinny Optimus Prime, which is pointed out by another character, which was pretty funny.

    Interestingly, a group of characters referred to as Squadron X show up late in the book, and I was immediately struck by how diverse and memorable all their character designs were.

    Like I said, I give it a solid rating of pretty good. I think I'd have liked it better if it was focused on a smaller group of characters, and there was more work put into giving them more memorable character designs. But, the very nature of the book, as kind of a self-contained Transformers Suicide Squad, dictates that there have to be a bunch of disposable also-ran Transformers. And since Transformers is an existing property, they also have to basically stick to the character designs already laid down.

    I don't hold any of that against the creators, but it did ultimately impact my enjoyment of the book.

    Oh, and Perceptor became a bad ass at some point between the 80's movie, and this comic. That was something of a surprise.


  • AntimatterAntimatter Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    glad you liked it! yeah, the character designs that were samey, almost all based on european exclusive toys without much, if any prior fiction, pretty much. they were redesigned enough that they looked semi-modern and NOT like giant hunks of plastic without any movement. But yeah, Skyquake, Snare, Stalker, all designed around the same time as members of a team called the Predators when they were released. Sadly, the European toys from that time period were a tad derivative and generic, but that DID lead to the joke about Pyro, which itself was elaborated upon in the short story Bullets which was included in the trade.
    the unique designs of Squadron X? They were all characters originally drawn as redshirt enemies for various issues of the Marvel comic, brought back just for fun.

    your complaints are fair, and I'm glad that they didn't ruin the book for you! Bullets, the short story included in the back of the trade, makes Ironfist's story even more tragic and interesting, and gives better characterization to a lot of the main team of Wreckers.

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  • CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    Wait, Arcee is level headed?

    What happened to the psycho killing woman that we all know and love.

  • AntimatterAntimatter Registered User regular
    edited December 2011
    he's talkin' bout the original '86 movie version

    psycho Arcee is the IDW version, and only because Jhiaxus experimented on her to actually introduce gender into the race of Cybertronians

    and, Arcee seems relatively calm right now, albeit her reputation as a crazy killer precedes her

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  • CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    I like crazy psycho Arcee, it's such a nice change of pace than the typical "mother" robot, especially with how she's been portrayed before.

  • ReignerReigner Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote:
    glad you liked it! yeah, the character designs that were samey, almost all based on european exclusive toys without much, if any prior fiction, pretty much. they were redesigned enough that they looked semi-modern and NOT like giant hunks of plastic without any movement. But yeah, Skyquake, Snare, Stalker, all designed around the same time as members of a team called the Predators when they were released. Sadly, the European toys from that time period were a tad derivative and generic, but that DID lead to the joke about Pyro, which itself was elaborated upon in the short story Bullets which was included in the trade.
    the unique designs of Squadron X? They were all characters originally drawn as redshirt enemies for various issues of the Marvel comic, brought back just for fun.

    your complaints are fair, and I'm glad that they didn't ruin the book for you! Bullets, the short story included in the back of the trade, makes Ironfist's story even more tragic and interesting, and gives better characterization to a lot of the main team of Wreckers.

    I unfortunately dont have the trade, but isn't the Pyro explanation
    Spoiler:

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Registered User regular
    Reigner wrote:
    Antimatter wrote:
    glad you liked it! yeah, the character designs that were samey, almost all based on european exclusive toys without much, if any prior fiction, pretty much. they were redesigned enough that they looked semi-modern and NOT like giant hunks of plastic without any movement. But yeah, Skyquake, Snare, Stalker, all designed around the same time as members of a team called the Predators when they were released. Sadly, the European toys from that time period were a tad derivative and generic, but that DID lead to the joke about Pyro, which itself was elaborated upon in the short story Bullets which was included in the trade.
    the unique designs of Squadron X? They were all characters originally drawn as redshirt enemies for various issues of the Marvel comic, brought back just for fun.

    your complaints are fair, and I'm glad that they didn't ruin the book for you! Bullets, the short story included in the back of the trade, makes Ironfist's story even more tragic and interesting, and gives better characterization to a lot of the main team of Wreckers.

    I unfortunately dont have the trade, but isn't the Pyro explanation
    Spoiler:

    even more interesting than that!
    Spoiler:

  • CadeCade Eppur si muove.Registered User regular
    I like the concept.

    I mean we see how people in our society worship movie stars or the famous. We got people who try to make themselves look like their heroes, you know like that Philippians man who is making himself look like Superman. So a race of robots that can change themselves up would or should not find it too difficult to make themselves look more like their heroes at all.

    Hmmm, does this mean we'll see a new "Megatron militia" at some point.

  • mightyspacepopemightyspacepope Registered User regular
    Munch wrote:

    Where it broke down for me, was in the minutiae, and little tangents the story would take, with minor characters. There's one character who, over the course of the five issues, makes three appearances; once when he's defending the prison from assault, once when he's in a gladiatorial death match, and once when his mangled body is later found by a group of characters. All to set up a reveal about the lead antagonist, that's ultimately pretty minor. Another minor character, a Decepticon, has a decent amount of page time devoted to his character arc, which ultimately winds up petering out, resolving in anti-climax.

    Not trying to refute your points, but just some thoughts:

    I think the Autobot you're referring to was meant to show just how twisted and sadistic the main villain was and to show what can happen to Autobots if they're pushed too far, which helps contribute to Impactor's arc.

    As for the Decepticon, I think it was meant to show that not all 'cons are horrible monsters. I also think his purpose in the story was more to contribute to Impactor's story than to have a meaningful impact on his own.

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  • MetroidZoidMetroidZoid Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote:
    Reigner wrote:
    Antimatter wrote:
    glad you liked it! yeah, the character designs that were samey, almost all based on european exclusive toys without much, if any prior fiction, pretty much. they were redesigned enough that they looked semi-modern and NOT like giant hunks of plastic without any movement. But yeah, Skyquake, Snare, Stalker, all designed around the same time as members of a team called the Predators when they were released. Sadly, the European toys from that time period were a tad derivative and generic, but that DID lead to the joke about Pyro, which itself was elaborated upon in the short story Bullets which was included in the trade.
    the unique designs of Squadron X? They were all characters originally drawn as redshirt enemies for various issues of the Marvel comic, brought back just for fun.

    your complaints are fair, and I'm glad that they didn't ruin the book for you! Bullets, the short story included in the back of the trade, makes Ironfist's story even more tragic and interesting, and gives better characterization to a lot of the main team of Wreckers.

    I unfortunately dont have the trade, but isn't the Pyro explanation
    Spoiler:

    even more interesting than that!
    Spoiler:

    In a perfect universe, Animated Lugnut would succumb to this. That's right, keep picturing it. Let it all sink in.

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote:
    Reigner wrote:
    Antimatter wrote:
    glad you liked it! yeah, the character designs that were samey, almost all based on european exclusive toys without much, if any prior fiction, pretty much. they were redesigned enough that they looked semi-modern and NOT like giant hunks of plastic without any movement. But yeah, Skyquake, Snare, Stalker, all designed around the same time as members of a team called the Predators when they were released. Sadly, the European toys from that time period were a tad derivative and generic, but that DID lead to the joke about Pyro, which itself was elaborated upon in the short story Bullets which was included in the trade.
    the unique designs of Squadron X? They were all characters originally drawn as redshirt enemies for various issues of the Marvel comic, brought back just for fun.

    your complaints are fair, and I'm glad that they didn't ruin the book for you! Bullets, the short story included in the back of the trade, makes Ironfist's story even more tragic and interesting, and gives better characterization to a lot of the main team of Wreckers.

    I unfortunately dont have the trade, but isn't the Pyro explanation
    Spoiler:

    even more interesting than that!
    Spoiler:

    In a perfect universe, Animated Lugnut would succumb to this. That's right, keep picturing it. Let it all sink in.

    oh my god


    also

    Mike Costa, the guy who previously wrote for the ongoing and is leaving now, has some choice remarks:
    During his first year writing The Transformers, Mike says he got really burnt out, stating that writing for Transformers was "tough and not fun". He goes on to state: "The characters are so difficult to understand." He compares a human coming back after serving only 2 years in a war and their entire psyche is destroyed, their life changed. But these characters are robots that are millions of years old fighting a war that's a million years old. He goes on to state: "They don’t get hungry, they don’t get tired, they don’t have women, they don’t have relationships that they value, because they don’t have females that they can love, maybe brotherly love but how, they don’t have parents?”

    - “All the basic things that motivate a person in any kind of adventure story that motivate them, these characters do not have them. You have to manufacture them. Why would a robot that’s millions of years old have a personality like a human? That’s insane.”

    - “Transformers are toys. They are toys. That’s why they’re giant robots that turn in to cars. They’re toys. There’s no reason a robot would turn in to a car, they’re toys. I guess you could come up with reasons for it – a lot of writers have – it’s just so strange.”

    - “Cars and trucks in a comic book aren’t expressive – there’s no character to a car.”

    - “My job as a writer is to understand why characters are doing certain things – beyond why they are doing things in a certain moment – to who they are as people, but that’s where questions start getting really confusing, because these ‘things’ aren’t people.”


    - “Transformers fans read Transformers comics, and only Transformers comics. They are isolated from the rest of the comic book world.”

    - “Most Transformers fans don’t read comics.”

    - In the comic book community, Transformers are not looked upon favorably. They are looked upon as being silly and “not-serious” comics. GI Joe is taken seriously. “GI Joe still has respectability, while Transformers does not.”

    - Mike Costa blames the fall of popularity with Transformers comics not on himself or anyone with IDW Publishing, but with Dreamwave Comics, and the implosion that company had that effected the creators, the retailers, and of course, the fans. He goes on to state: “Some of those stories weren’t all that great.”

    - “I don’t think these books will be number 1 again. They target their market, and their market is shrinking, and there’s a lot of people in that market that are unpleasant.”

    - Mike Costa goes on to state that (a lot of) Transformers comic fans are very arrogant and hostile, painting a picture that they will continue to buy something simply to continue to hate it. He goes on to add that this happens with most properties, but Transformers fans are more vocal. He does add that it's this same attitude and desire to be heard that kept the franchise alive in the 90's all the way to the 2007 movie.

    - He also states that from what he can see, there's very little agreement between comic fans on what they dislike about Transformers comics. A group of them may all dislike the comic, but none of them agree exactly on what they dislike about it.

    - “The most harsh fans suffer from tunnel vision and lack perspective." At first this statement was applied only to Transformers comics, but he continues on and ends up referencing "in their world", or their life, so to speak.

    - Mike briefly touches upon the cry from fans on message boards regarding "Why don't they listen to the fans!?". “There’s probably about a total of 100 active posters across ALL the Transformers message forums on the Internet.”

    - Mike continues on... “Why aren’t we listening to the fans? It means we’re not listening to you and the other 20 people that post on message boards.”

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