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World War Hulk Thread: Don't Be Fucking Ninnies

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    But that doesn't change the fact that the Sentry, outside of his miniseries, has been a big boring blob of boredom.

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  • SASA Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Sentry and hulk are best buds so they wouldn't fight anyways.

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  • NogsNogs Crap, crap, mega crap. Crap, crap, mega crap.Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    SA wrote: »
    Sentry and hulk are best buds so they wouldn't fight anyways.

    cap and iron man are best buds so they wouldn't fight anyways.

    Oh wait.

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  • DarkWarriorDarkWarrior __BANNED USERS regular
    edited February 2007
    Hulk hasn't actually ever reached his actual strength limit has he? He just gets stronger and stronger the more pissed off he gets so really he could way out class Sentry. I mean I know Void broke his bones but he insta heals anyway. I still think its retarded that Wolverine can claw him open though. Its just an excuse to have another person Wolverine can take down. The guy eats Missiles for breakfast for gods sake and Wolverine has the strength to gut him?

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  • HarrierHarrier The Star Spangled Man Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Hulk hasn't actually ever reached his actual strength limit has he? He just gets stronger and stronger the more pissed off he gets so really he could way out class Sentry. I mean I know Void broke his bones but he insta heals anyway. I still think its retarded that Wolverine can claw him open though. Its just an excuse to have another person Wolverine can take down. The guy eats Missiles for breakfast for gods sake and Wolverine has the strength to gut him?

    It's always been my understanding that every time Wolverine fights the Hulk he has to work really hard just to keep from dying.

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  • SalmonOfDoubtSalmonOfDoubt Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    The "Sentry fought Galactus to a standstill" was just some throwaway line from one of his minis, IIRC. It's entirely possible ( and more than likely) there were some sort of bizarre circumstances putting Big G at a disadvantage, or it might not have been referring to a direct fight at all. Plus, it was something that happened before all the mindwipe jibberjabber so the details may have been blurred or whatever.

    Still, Rachel Grey-as-phoenix did it once, and I wouldn't be entirely suprised if Sentry is around the level of power.
    I'm wondering how the relationship between Sentry and Hulk will be explored. Whenever Hulk's in The Sentry's presence he becomes like a docile retarded son.

    I don't really know a whole lot about the different types of Hulk persona there's been throughout the years, but wasn't that when he was still just "Rar Hulk Smash!" most of the time? I think that now he's more intelligent he won't be as affected by the Sentry's weird aura thing and not be all "Hulk love Golden Man!".
    I can't really see him wanting to beat the crap out of Sentry if he can avoid it, though.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Hulk hasn't actually ever reached his actual strength limit has he?

    He doesn't have one.

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  • GoodCitizenGoodCitizen Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Y'know what would be awesome?

    Nova joins up with Hulk to smash the shit out Ironman and all those other bitches. Seeing Hulk tear through the illuminati and everybody else who acted like a douchebag during civil war will be worth the cover price alone.

    Of course, I'm a serious whore for some good Hulk Smash!

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    The current Hulk is no Professor Hulk, but he's certainly got brains. He wasn't big on tactics at first, but his warbound are improving that.

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  • FierceDeity666FierceDeity666 Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    so he's at Savage-power and Grey-brains.


    that's terrifying.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Plus the entire time he's been on Sakaar, he's only reverted to Banner thrice.

    Once was for a split-second because Banner managed to temporarily defeat him psychologically (but Hulk quickly quelled that uprising), once because he was weakened from the Spikes feeding on him for over seven hours straight, and once voluntarily so he could show his fiancee.

    Basically, the heroes can't hope for Banner to come out.

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Does Sakaar make him stronger?

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  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Did the Hulk reach his current intellect by going through the portal on Sakaar, or was he like this before they shot him into space?

    Because if it's a property of being on Sakaar, he might revert to savage Hulk if he returns to Earth.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    robosagogo wrote: »
    Does Sakaar make him stronger?

    No. Passing through the portal to Sakaar actually weakened him considerably.
    Did the Hulk reach his current intellect by going through the portal on Sakaar, or was he like this before they shot him into space?

    The passage to Sakaar did not affect his intelligence in anyway that I know of. The Silver Surfer didn't seem more intelligent or anything.

    He wasn't Savage before the passage through the portal, since he was transformed and was listening to Nick Fury's instructions before boarding the ship to take him into space to fight that satellite-thingy.

    It's my personal opinion that the Illuminati message to him gave Hulk enough rage (and residual subconcious anger) to assert this sort of continual dominance over Banner. Perhaps after he's curbstomped the lot of them, he'll calm down a bit?

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  • Psychotic OnePsychotic One The Lord of No Pants Parts UnknownRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Looking at the checklist Ghost Rider appears to be one of the early combatants in this war....wonder what if anything the penance stare can do to big green. Probably at the most time for Blaze to realize how much shit he is in and get the hell out of there.

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  • Caveman PawsCaveman Paws Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Ghost Rider vs Hulk? Will Ghost Rider look like Nick Cage? If so I hope Hulk gets to pound him into a thin paste like substance.

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  • wwtMaskwwtMask Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    For reference as to how strong Hulk has been during Planet Hulk, he quite literally held Sakaar together when the Red Prince tried to destroy the planet to kill him. He did this by diving into a hole in the ground, wading into lava, and pulling two tectonic plates together. That shit barely phased him.

    I'm thinking the Illuminati will be breaking out their gems for this one because Hulk's got the anger and the power and the allies to really fuck their shit up pretty hard. And since I don't like half of the guys involved anyway, that's just fine with me.

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  • Caveman PawsCaveman Paws Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Whoa,whoa, back up! He held a planet together by grabbing a couple plates? How the fuck does that wor... oh wait, it's comic about a big green monster man on another planet.

    *ehem* I mean damn that's cool!

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  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    honestly i'm just looking forward to seeing Hulk kick the everliving shit out of the rest of the Marvel jokers for this Civil War shit.

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  • VerdancyVerdancy Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Looking at the checklist Ghost Rider appears to be one of the early combatants in this war....wonder what if anything the penance stare can do to big green. Probably at the most time for Blaze to realize how much shit he is in and get the hell out of there.

    Well, if Ghost Rider's getting involved, I guess that gives them a good get-out clause for calming the Hulk down, being subjected to the Penance Stare would let him see the Illuminati's point of view. Perhaps the early Ghost Rider tie-ins will be him clashing with the Warbound as he tries to get to Hulk, in order to reason with him?

    I haven't read the Ghost Rider Civil War tie-in, so I don't know if he'd actually have any motivation to help the Illuminati.

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    If the Penance Stare didn't work on Venom (two minds), then maybe it won't work on Hulk (at least two minds).

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  • The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    See, I was a bit annoyed to see ANOTHER Crossover.

    But it seems to involve the Avengers less and the X-Men more, so at least we don't see Iron Man being an unreasonable dick for a few months again.

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  • DayspringDayspring the Phoenician Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Ghost Rider vs Hulk? Will Ghost Rider look like Nick Cage? If so I hope Hulk gets to pound him into a thin paste like substance.

    I have no problem with Nick Cage but really a comic in which he gets beaten senseless by the Hulk would still be hilarious.

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  • FierceDeity666FierceDeity666 Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    See, I was a bit annoyed to see ANOTHER Crossover.

    But it seems to involve the Avengers less and the X-Men more, so at least we don't see Iron Man being an unreasonable dick for a few months again.

    no, we see iron man getting slammed into a sidewalk stain.

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  • MiSTieOtakuMiSTieOtaku Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    As long as that fucking douche Iron Man gets beat to fine golden-red paste by the Hulk, I'll get it.

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  • The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    See, I was a bit annoyed to see ANOTHER Crossover.

    But it seems to involve the Avengers less and the X-Men more, so at least we don't see Iron Man being an unreasonable dick for a few months again.

    no, we see iron man getting slammed into a sidewalk stain.

    Well he's not being an unreasonable dick.
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  • SeptusSeptus Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Wait, is Planet Hulk over? Last time I checked(wasn't too long ago) the only trade I could find was the prelude. If it is actually over, maybe they can bang out the rest of them pretty quickly.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Septus wrote: »
    Wait, is Planet Hulk over? Last time I checked(wasn't too long ago) the only trade I could find was the prelude. If it is actually over, maybe they can bang out the rest of them pretty quickly.

    There's still a couple issues to go. I bet the first trade (maybe a full hardback, if we're lucky) will be out in June or July.

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  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    robosagogo wrote: »
    If the Penance Stare didn't work on Venom (two minds), then maybe it won't work on Hulk (at least two minds).

    Oh man, I remember when that happened. That was such bullcrap.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    As long as that fucking douche Iron Man gets beat to fine golden-red paste by the Hulk, I'll get it.

    You know, I'm pretty sure that's not the reaction Marvel was going for.

    Maybe this will teach them something about trying to get Mark Millar to write someone being "morally ambiguous".

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  • Romero ZombieRomero Zombie Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Wasn't there an issue of Spider-Man not too long ago (pre civil-war) when Peter was telling MJ that he would be able to take down the Hulk if it ever came down to it?

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  • projectmayhemprojectmayhem Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I just want to say, I haven't read anything Hulk related...ever. Thankfully, my local comic book store had a 50% sale on its graphic novels and I picked up vol 1 and 2 of the HC of the incredible hulk.

    My balls its awesome in every way.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2007
    Wasn't there an issue of Spider-Man not too long ago (pre civil-war) when Peter was telling MJ that he would be able to take down the Hulk if it ever came down to it?

    I think it was five or six years ago, but yeah.

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  • The Muffin ManThe Muffin Man Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Wasn't there an issue of Spider-Man not too long ago (pre civil-war) when Peter was telling MJ that he would be able to take down the Hulk if it ever came down to it?

    I think it was five or six years ago, but yeah.

    Now was that reassuring her? Spider-man CAN keep the Hulk at bay. Beat him? Christ no, not unless his wrist-spikes can pierce the Hulk and even daze him moreso than piss him off. But he can definitely keep the Hulk on his toes until he hopefully gets bored/calms down.

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  • robosagogorobosagogo Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I think his wrist spikes are supposed to be magical, so that could help. Also, they knock people out and that's the sort of thing designed to work against the Hulk.

    Barring that, I suppose Peter could make him laugh until he stops being angry.

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  • AngryAngry The glory I had witnessed was just a sleight of handRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    robosagogo wrote: »
    I think his wrist spikes are supposed to be magical, so that could help. Also, they knock people out and that's the sort of thing designed to work against the Hulk.

    Barring that, I suppose Peter could try to make him laugh but instead enrage him ever more.

    more likely.

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Wasn't there an issue of Spider-Man not too long ago (pre civil-war) when Peter was telling MJ that he would be able to take down the Hulk if it ever came down to it?

    I think it was five or six years ago, but yeah.

    Now was that reassuring her? Spider-man CAN keep the Hulk at bay. Beat him? Christ no, not unless his wrist-spikes can pierce the Hulk and even daze him moreso than piss him off. But he can definitely keep the Hulk on his toes until he hopefully gets bored/calms down.

    His logic was something like "If I over extend him he'll die"

    Which makes no sense, because the madder he gets the stronger he gets.

    But you can easilly explain it by remembering JMS never read other peoples comics.

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  • Romero ZombieRomero Zombie Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    I thought it was more recent than a few years ago - could also have been something that was posted on the boards though that I am thinking of. He was saying that he knows a lot of the individual heroes weaknesses, and if he had to, he would be able to take them out.

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  • GoodCitizenGoodCitizen Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Ya, Spidey was talking about how heroes watch each other for weaknesses in case they ever need to fight each other. He then said something about having a strategy to take down each. MJ then asked something like "What about the hulk?", and peter just says(if i recall) "Sure".

    It makes sense. Spidey has always fought well outside of his weight class, taking on villains that he probably shouldn't have been able to touch given his powerset. People like Molten Man, Electro, and Sandman come to mind. Usually his plans revolve around modifications to his webbing that will counter specific powers, or in using the environment to his advantage. That being said, his plans don't always work out like he thinks they would.

    Also, after Spidey said he had a plan for Hulk, we actually see him go after Banner in 'the other' storyline(to have banner examine him). In that confrontation Spidey's plan was basically to dodge Hulk's attacks and keep telling knock-knock jokes to calm Big Green down. That plan might have worked on THAT version of Hulk, but the newly intelligent Hulk persona is ENTIRELY different.

    Spider-man wouldn't have a chance against the Hulk's current form.

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  • Mai-KeroMai-Kero Registered User regular
    edited February 2007
    Ya, Spidey was talking about how heroes watch each other for weaknesses in case they ever need to fight each other. He then said something about having a strategy to take down each. MJ then asked something like "What about the hulk?", and peter just says(if i recall) "Sure".

    It makes sense. Spidey has always fought well outside of his weight class, taking on villains that he probably shouldn't have been able to touch given his powerset. People like Molten Man, Electro, and Sandman come to mind. Usually his plans revolve around modifications to his webbing that will counter specific powers, or in using the environment to his advantage. That being said, his plans don't always work out like he thinks they would.

    Also, after Spidey said he had a plan for Hulk, we actually see him go after Banner in 'the other' storyline(to have banner examine him). In that confrontation Spidey's plan was basically to dodge Hulk's attacks and keep telling knock-knock jokes to calm Big Green down. That plan might have worked on THAT version of Hulk, but the newly intelligent Hulk persona is ENTIRELY different.

    Spider-man wouldn't have a chance against the Hulk's current form.


    Spider-man would still be able to dodge as long as he wanted, I think. As silly as it was,
    The bit with him and Reed in Civil War 7 was fairly accurate. Spider-man is way more powerful than people give him credit for.

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