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Sigil, City of [Phalla] - Game Over

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    38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    So, this was my first main game, and the first time I ran a game by myself. I hope everyone had as much fun playing as I did running it. Sorry it ran a bit long, somehow all of the damage dealers died quickly, while the healers survived for a very long time.

    First thing: Holy crap it is a ton of work to setup and run a main. I think I had 22 pages written just of roles and OP. I had a spreadsheet to automate vote counting (Not that any votes were very close) but all the actions I kept track of manually including hit point tracking. Hopefully someone can let me know a better way to do this at some point.

    I went with the theme based on one of my favorite games, Planescape:Torment and hopefully some people who haven’t played it have checked it out. I tried to avoid taking too many major characters from it and to make my own story which vaguely fit in the theme. I also tried to use enough of the Cant to flavor the game, but not too much to make it unintelligible for people unfamiliar with it.

    The Devils and Demons both had ten players each, which led to the high amount of mafia in the game. I did this to compensate for them having to compete against eachother, the village, a Deva faction, and the Serial Killer all out to get them. They each had a seer, a specialist, three heavy units, three light units, and a roleblocker. The Demons had a lot more damage potential, and managed many of the kills, while the devils had damage over time, regeneration, and healing.

    Cayrus was the demon special unit, able to eat any corpse that was not incinerated and gain their looks and their powers. Arivia had the ability to heal, give people the disease that killed Infidel and add herself to the narration’s death count. I hadn’t expected her to use that ability quite like that but was impressed with the devilishness of it. I tried to answer the clarification requests related to it fairly but without directly giving her away. Was I fair with it?

    REG Rysk was the only one in the village who could get role names of other players, but he had to post insanely in order for his power to work.

    Running a game with Infidel in it was really enlightening. Nearly every seer targeted him on day 1. This obviously helped him to setup a network very quickly.

    The Neutrals had some interesting choices to make, the Devas had nearly the same victory condition as the village, but their only abilities were to buff the mafia. Ideally helping them to kill eachother. A piece of theme I took from one of Trias’ in-game comments, that Rawkking actually quoted on his proboard.

    Bedlam and SeGaTai both had the option of making friends and surviving or trying to wipe out the Deva faction and exiting. Bedlam also had the option of converting the Devils to his Victory condition once SeGaTai died.

    The Pillar of Skulls had to make deals to get people to trade their health to win, which he did. That seemed to work well enough.

    To help the SK survive, he was able to give other people the game’s only priority attack, at the cost of 20 life. Perfect solution really, as these attacks couldn’t be used against him. Unfortunately, someone burning down the network head didn’t paint him in a good light.

    Of course, like my last game, some of the cover roles that appeared I wish I had thought to include. I especially liked Mourns-for-Trees and Dalamar. Well, I probably wouldn’t have actually made Dalamar a role, but I was entertained as Dragonlance was one of my favorite book series.

    Thanks for putting up with me while I had no power, and limited Internet access for a week. That was very obnoxious and I apologize again for that.

    Finally and this isn’t really game related except to explain some of my absences earlier on, but wife is now pregnant! We were gone a lot of the early days to go to the doctor and tell family and such. We’re pretty happy.

    Please give me feedback and let me know what you liked and didn’t like.
    I’ll also answer any questions. Feel free to post role PMs.

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    CapfalconCapfalcon Tunnel Snakes Rule Capital WastelandRegistered User regular
    Honestly, I thought the game was great, and I hope my main goes as well as this.

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    Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    Congrats Dude!

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    SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    Yay babbies!

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
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    corvidaecorvidae Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    I really don't have to much to add,but it was a pleasure following along. Was obviously rooting for my fellow devils, and seeing their plans unfold was fun.

    If rivs had actually pulled it off, she would go down in legend.

    Also congrats to you 38th.

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    InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    Thanks for running this, it was fun to follow and see whether the village was going to figure shit out or not. :lol: Good job hosting through a power outage!
    38thDoe wrote:
    First thing: Holy crap it is a ton of work to setup and run a main. I think I had 22 pages written just of roles and OP. I had a spreadsheet to automate vote counting (Not that any votes were very close) but all the actions I kept track of manually including hit point tracking. Hopefully someone can let me know a better way to do this at some point.

    This is basically how the Blarnfidel statpage games came about. "Jesus our games are just too hard to run manually."
    38thDoe wrote:
    Running a game with Infidel in it was really enlightening. Nearly every seer targeted him on day 1. This obviously helped him to setup a network very quickly.

    I play the game a little differently than I would recommend for others solely because the actions of others with respect to me are unusual. I have to try weird shit just to survive a few days.

    I like how people are geese when it comes to contacts. "I was talking to A first so I'm going to trust A instead of B and fuck trying to actually examine the situation or logic." Happens very frequently despite it being clear post-game that they should "learn their lesson."

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    InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    Also, thank you / you're welcome Vwinds.

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    CayrusCayrus Consul Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears!Registered User regular
    Grats 38thDoe! Thanks for running this.

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    Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    "Devil Hitsquad - Pick two targets to deal 90 damage to. This will not work on Devas or Devils."
    Heck of a thing to miss.

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    SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    the fact that there were still 3 masoned devas left at the end of the game was a pretty big deal.

    Particularly because I had 80 and flarne and baidol had like 50ish each and we were just planning on voting everyone else off until it was just us.

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
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    Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    edited November 2011
    I was beginning to be worry that you had normal win conditions and were just being creative.

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    CayrusCayrus Consul Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears!Registered User regular
    Yeah, I think by the end there were too many masoned Devas left for the Devils or Demons to win with only one member left each. I was just trying to draw it out/confuse everyone.

    What was the "Devil Hitsquad" and why didn't I get something similar? :P

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    BedlamBedlam Registered User regular
    RRRAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

    I basically just won the game for everybody EXCEPT me. Thats a fine way to say thank you to the only person who finally figured out what Arivia was up too. And I always did what I was told! I was such a nice little devil.

    You better belive this is a grudging.

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    MatevMatev Cero Miedo Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    Hahaha, this was an awesome game 38th, thanks for running! Congrats to you and the missus as well. :D

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    "Go down, kick ass, and set yourselves up as gods, that's our Prime Directive!"
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    Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    Bedlam wrote:
    Thats a fine way to say thank you to the only person who finally figured out what Arivia was up too.
    I appreciate the nudge.

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    SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    Egos is the one who killed you, by the way.

    I really wanted to, because the smaller the village got the more attractive your "kill devas and become a mafia" option would look.

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
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    jackisrealjackisreal Registered User regular
    flarne wrote:
    Any reason for burning Jack?
    SlyM wrote:
    because I suspect him.

    I mean, I always suspect him, but still.

    hahaaaaaaaaaaaa

    :(

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    SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    It was a bit of residue from the fight club phalla. You were similarly quiet but I figured if you were village I would have at least something on you.

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
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    InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    I don't know why people were so hesitant to vote out Arivia when the host said publicly in the thread ARIVIA IS ALIVE.

    Just saying.

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    CayrusCayrus Consul Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears!Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    I voted for her several times but no one followed my lead. :(

    How come no one healed Infidel, btw?

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    BedlamBedlam Registered User regular
    SLyM wrote:
    Egos is the one who killed you, by the way.

    I really wanted to, because the smaller the village got the more attractive your "kill devas and become a mafia" option would look.
    The devils I was in contact with never told me they were devils. If I had known there were 5 left when I got the power I might have used it. Theres also the fact that staying neutral still would have let me win with them. Oh yeah IT WAS MY IDEA TO KILL THE DEVIL RETEBA! Flarne wanted to keep him alive because he was a "Deva"

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    InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    Because Tmoiy was a goose and sent a message 26 minutes before day close while I was at work "oh hey, I'm gonna heal someone else, let me know if that is not okay."

    o_O

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    SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    I really should have followed up on that "why does retaba know the name of the color in the PM" though, huh?

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
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    TmoiyTmoiy Registered User regular
    :oops:

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    anomalousvandalanomalousvandal Registered User regular
    Infidel wrote:
    I don't know why people were so hesitant to vote out Arivia when the host said publicly in the thread ARIVIA IS ALIVE.

    Just saying.

    If he said it that clearly we would have voted her out much sooner. We weren't that thick were we?

    It was a great game 38th! Thanks for finally convincing me to play!

    You can take letters off my username, but you cannot take my FREEDOM!!
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    InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    Infidel wrote:
    I don't know why people were so hesitant to vote out Arivia when the host said publicly in the thread ARIVIA IS ALIVE.

    Just saying.

    If he said it that clearly we would have voted her out much sooner. We weren't that thick were we?

    It was a great game 38th! Thanks for finally convincing me to play!

    It was simple predicates. A -> B, B -> C, therefore A -> C kinda shit.

    He made it as clear as a host should without actually interfering.

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    lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    Spoit wrote:
    it is really strange to me how many people were willing to write arivia off as a goose rather than actually figure out what was going on :V
    It's cause she was in the narration

    also because continuing to post after she died is totally within character for her.

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    38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Cayrus wrote:
    Yeah, I think by the end there were too many masoned Devas left for the Devils or Demons to win with only one member left each. I was just trying to draw it out/confuse everyone.

    What was the "Devil Hitsquad" and why didn't I get something similar? :P

    All of the units that didn't have direct damage options got some kind of desperation if they were the last one left, you had the option to become something more powerful, so I didn't have that for your role.

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    CayrusCayrus Consul Friends, Romans, countrymen, lend me your ears!Registered User regular
    Also apologies to Ahava for getting you killed. I was telling the truth about you seering green, but for some reason no one believed me!

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    InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    38thDoe wrote:
    Cayrus wrote:
    CLARIFICATIONS: Is Arivia allowed to post multiple ghost posts? Do her votes count? Is she actually dead?

    Dead players are allowed to make one ghost post with no game information.

    Votes by living people count. Votes by dead people do not.

    Denied.


    Dead players are allowed to make one ghost post.

    Arivia is allowed to make more than one ghost post.

    Arivia is not dead.

    Votes by dead people do not count.

    Arivia's votes count.

    It is pretty clear and blatantly gives a CD saying "here is the situation but of course I'm not going to directly comment on Arivia you goose."

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    Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    I was partially afraid that Ariva was dead, and that pursuing that path could lead to her damaging a turn in the game
    leading to potential mod action
    leading to phalla hiatus
    I'm a paranoid dude.

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    lonelyahavalonelyahava Call me Ahava ~~She/Her~~ Move to New ZealandRegistered User regular
    good game, 38th.

    massive props on the snow storm and no internet thing. And running this partially from a phone as well.

    Huge congrats on the incoming baby.

    Only thoughts on the game that I'm probably going to actually share.


    Hey stever: Both replacements in this game were villagers. Suck it.

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    SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    Cayrus wrote:
    Also apologies to Ahava for getting you killed. I was telling the truth about you seering green, but for some reason no one believed me!

    No one believed you because everyone was fairly suspicious that you were mafia for a few days at that point. Honestly the lack of any results at all from the "seers" late game was a pretty big tip off.

    My friend is working on a roguelike game you can play if you want to. (It has free demo)
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    anomalousvandalanomalousvandal Registered User regular
    I still think about what could have been if all the rats linked.

    You can take letters off my username, but you cannot take my FREEDOM!!
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    Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    I'm thinking a seer ability might of popped up.

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    MrTLiciousMrTLicious Registered User regular
    Thanks, 38th! Awesome game. Really had a blast.

    kime: you and Langly were the only ones I leaked my guard story to. :P

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    InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    Oh hey, withdrawal is entirely due to RL events which cannot possibly influence the role distribution?

    SHOCKING

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    BedlamBedlam Registered User regular
    I do want to say im sorry to ecco. I asked you for a heal when I knew you were my vig target. I figured it would clever if you were evil but when you turned up green a felt like an ass.

    Also day 13 I forgot to put in an order. Left the house thinking Id be back in time, so thats why Tmoiy still lived.

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    InfidelInfidel Heretic Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote:
    LIST OF THE GRUDGED:

    Baidol, for betraying Ardor-style deal

    That is all.

    What was the deal?

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    38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    I still think about what could have been if all the rats linked.

    Basically, you would have gotten extra uses of your spells, more spells and at six the game's only Busdriver.

    Confusion - Choose two targets, any abilities that should affect one now affects the other and vice-versa.

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