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On a Prog kick

ninjaininjai Registered User regular
edited November 2011 in Help / Advice Forum
So I've been on a prog kick for a while, and I'm getting stuck on what I know. Need some suggestions.

Here's what I've got so far.

Beatles:
Abbey Road
White Album

Pink Floyd:
Anthology

Led Zeppelin:
I-IV
Physical Graffiti
Houses of the Holy (all of these on vinyl)

Dream Theater
Water Tension Experiment
The Mars Volta
Blotted Science
Animals As Leaders
Opeth
Between the Buried and Me
Orbs
Cynic
Scale the Summit


If you aren't sure what I mean by PROG go listen to this list and you'll get what I mean. Typically associated with prog are odd time signatures, 8-30 minute songs, often ambient and or soft tones, particular vocal styles, as well as ultra modern writing and playing techniques. (people try to differenciate prog rock or prog metal... Prog is really just progressive MUSIC, see "Animals as Leaders: Weightless") Best examples of progressive music is Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" and "The Wall" and for a more modern example:

Cynic



If you have progressive ANYTHING let me know what it is, and why you think its progressive so I can check it out.

Thanks.

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  • y2jake215y2jake215 The style is radiation leak at mile island Also known as Chernobyl talk, listen for the sirensRegistered User regular
    edited November 2011
    Older Prog
    Yes - Fragile
    Pink Floyd - Animals
    King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
    Rush - 2112

    Newer, Heavier Prog
    Tool - Lateralus
    The Mars Volta - De-Loused in the Comatorium, Frances the Mute

    Tool is fantastic if you like odd time signatures and a healthy dose of pretentiousness (as all great prog has)
    If you really like odd time signatures and appreciate when songs are incredibly difficult to actually play, check out Meshuggah also

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  • ninjaininjai Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    Oh yes, forgot about tool, and I have Mars Volta. I love aberinkula personally.

    YES! and that reminds me of Abba and the Police too. SWEET!

    I think the new Coheed could be considered prog, but I haven't spent too much time with it.

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  • LibrarianLibrarian Registered User regular
    Check out The Age of Adz by Sufjan Stevens!
    It is not prog rock, but definitely very experimental and unique music.



    This is not the longest track on the album.

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  • AtaxrxesAtaxrxes Cursed EarthRegistered User regular
    Check out Praxis. Try the albums Metatron and Transmutation.

  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    Fiery Furnaces, maybe?

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  • GriswoldGriswold (a superset of all possible mathematics) (his body disintegrated)Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    y2jake215 wrote:
    Older Prog
    Yes - Fragile
    Pink Floyd - Animals
    King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
    Rush - 2112

    Newer, Heavier Prog
    Tool - Lateralus
    The Mars Volta - De-Loused in the Comatorium, Frances the Mute

    Tool is fantastic if you like odd time signatures and a healthy dose of pretentiousness (as all great prog has)
    If you really like odd time signatures and appreciate when songs are incredibly difficult to actually play, check out Meshuggah also
    Porcupine Tree?

    These two posts, and Kansas.

    edit: I'd also recommend any of Gazpacho's three most recent albums (Tick Tock is probably their most accessible.)

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  • ThesmileyemoThesmileyemo Registered User regular
    I recommend anything by Rush, since they are the greatest. You can't go wrong with Hemispheres, Moving Pictures, Grace Under Pressure, and as already mentioned 2112.

  • SteevLSteevL What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    Yeah, you're definitely missing some Yes in there. Fragile is a great album; another one worth checking out is Close to the Edge. It's 3 songs, but about 40 minutes long.

    Since you listed Opeth, surely you've heard Edge of Sanity's Crimson? 40 minute melodic death metal song, kind of proggy at times I guess. There's a lot of styles in there. Mikael from Opeth does some guest vocals. I love it.

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  • metaghostmetaghost Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    There are a number of Cynic splinter groups that you may already know, bands like Aeon Spoke (with Paul Masvidal & various guest instrumentalists), Gordian Knot, and Exivious. Aeon Spoke and Gordian Knot lean much more towards the traditional idea of "prog", while Exivious is basically an instrumental cover band of Traced in Air-era Cynic with a bit of stronger vibe of "dudes shredding because they can".

    dredg's second album, El Cielo, was one of my favorite records in college and scratches a certain itch for progressive modern rock, though I really can't stand their guitarist anymore. Also, their subsequent records are a lot less interesting.

    For more bands in the Blotted Science/Animals as Leaders spectrum, you might want to look into projects related to Colin Marston, one of the founding members of Behold... the Arctopus in which he played a 12-string behemoth of a guitar. He's played in bands like Dysrhythmia (instrumental electric Jazz/Metal) and Krallice (droning Black Metal), and some of the various players in those bands are also in bands like Zevious (not to be confused with previously mentioned Exivious), Orthrelm, and Kayo Dot (one of my favorite current groups).

    For more progressive pop (well, as close to pop as this kind of music can get), my standby is Gavin Castleton, who's maybe most well-known at this point for his Zombie Opera, Home, but he's got a ridiculous number of solo albums that explore dramatically different styles, from the prog-rap of A Bullet, A Lever, A Key, to just a simple covers album done primarily with a looping set-up. He was also in an early progressive group with the ridiculous name of Grüvis Malt, who released two records I can highly recommend, Simon and Maximum Unicorn.

    I could go on and on, but you can also explore the music blog I write for linked in my signature and probably find a bunch of likeminded stuff you'd dig. This mix would probably be a good place to start: Don't Be Such a Dissonancy

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  • EncEnc FloridaRegistered User regular
    edited November 2011
    Am I the only one who thought this said "Pogs"?

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  • EshEsh Sunshine! Kittens! Rainbows! Smiles! Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    King Crimson a thousand times yes.

    You might look into early Genesis too, when Peter Gabriel was singing for them.

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  • ninjaininjai Registered User regular
    How could I forget Muse?

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  • ninjaininjai Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    @ SteevL you listen to BTBAM? Also Animals As Leaders new album is phenominal

    @Metaghost Excellent post, I love dysrhymia and behold... though I wouldn't consider them prog as much as tech. I mean, behold is essentially Necrophagist with less death metal influence. I'll check out all those :D

    and your blog

    also Gojira and mastadon.

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  • metaghostmetaghost Registered User regular
    Yeah, I didn't really get the feeling you cared much to pick nits over genre, considering your opening post went from psychedelic period Beatles to fucking Blotted Science.

    Also, for more Scale the Summit type stuff, Chon:

  • ninjaininjai Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    You may like "The Crinn" and or "Assimilated Mind Phase"

    Cuz I do. :)

    Also I would consider Painted in Exile prog, ranging from blues, to classical to metal, great stuff.

    Also I can't find where to buy Chon.

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  • EsseeEssee The pinkest of hair. Victoria, BCRegistered User regular
    Have you listened to The Moody Blues? My parents (who, might I say, have fabulous musical taste) and I are huge fans of their stuff. From the looks of your list, I think they'd be up your alley, and even if they didn't match they're a great band. I've never really been able to pinhole a lot of music into genres, but seeing as how they show up on the Wiki page for "progressive rock," I think I'm justified in my suggestion. Not sure which albums to suggest, since it's my mom who has the original records... I just have access to their Greatest Hits albums at the moment. If you'd like I can go flip through the songs I have real quick for specific examples.

  • ninjaininjai Registered User regular
    Any specific albums from the moody blues? My search turns up LOADS of albums.

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    y2jake215 wrote:
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    Esh wrote:
    King Crimson a thousand times yes.

    King Crimson. Now, there's In the Court of the Crimson King, but the best is their 2000 Heavy Construkction live set. It's on another level.



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  • metaghostmetaghost Registered User regular
    ninjai wrote:
    Also I can't find where to buy Chon.

    That's because you can't buy Chon as far as I know. That track is from the 2008 demo, which you can download all over the place in various bitrates, like at their Purevolume: http://www.purevolume.com/musicofchon/albums/Demo+2008

    I guess they're working on some new tunes, but they've been listening to too much crabcore and it's not quite as fun.

  • ninjaininjai Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    I know a local band, "Deflycsiun" is pretty sick (prog). They're working on an EP but otherwise have nothing recorded.

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    No mention of The Protomen? Its like Alan Moore's Mega Man.






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  • ninjaininjai Registered User regular
    Thanks for all the great suggestions, especially ghost. Thanks to these few post (and the nature of prog) I have SO MANY more hours of music to sift through.

    Zune pass for the MOTHERFUCKING WIN

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  • ninjaininjai Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    @Love is you may like this stuff


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  • mysticjuicermysticjuicer Registered User regular
    edited November 2011
    Mastodon's 'Crack the Skye' Album.



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    @LoveisUnity I can't BELIEVE I forgot Isis

    @ninjai Listen to Isis. Now.

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  • Nova_CNova_C Sniff Sniff Snorf Beyond The WallRegistered User regular
    Prog has always seemed like one of those catchall genres that I never really could get a handle on, but I've heard Ayreon described as prog and this side project of his is amazing:



    He did that with Astrid Van Der Veen, a famous Dutch singer who was 14 when the Ambeon album was recorded. Unfortunately the album is incredibly hard to find. In fact, after years of searching I still have not found one. :(

  • AdusAdus Registered User regular
    Seconding Porcupine Tree.



    Ayreon, mentioned just above, is one of my favorites:



    Arcturus definitely has a unique sound as well:





    Pain of Salvation:



    Shadow Gallery:



    Wolverine:


  • LewieP's MummyLewieP's Mummy Registered User regular
    Emerson, Lake and Palmer.
    from the album "Works", Fanfare for the Common Man
    same album, C'est la vie.
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    If you like Porcupine Tree, their frontman Steven Wilson's solo stuff is also great (his new album just came out recently)



    Kevin Moore used to be part of Dream Theater then he went and did Chroma Key which is on my short list of best things ever


    The Alan Parsons Project is just tremendous. Parsons did the audio stuff for Pink Floyd and The Beatles and then went and did his own thing:



    Finally (because I could go on for a really long time about prog), Marillion is really great.

  • I can second Transmutation by Praxis. Classic album. It's got alot of funk influence too. Bootsy Collins and Bernie Worrell work on the album after all.






    Another progressive band that Buckethead is in is Thanatopsis.




    Another band that has been called Progressive from time to time is Mew. Whether you think they fall all the way into the category or not, Mew is fucking good.









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    That one is all I can think of right now.

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  • TavTav Registered User regular
    Devin Townsend and anything he's associated with. You'd probably also like Opeth's last two albums as well.

  • EsseeEssee The pinkest of hair. Victoria, BCRegistered User regular
    ninjai wrote:
    Any specific albums from the moody blues? My search turns up LOADS of albums.

    Sorry I took so long to respond, but it just so happens that my mom came to visit, so I asked her what she'd recommend! She said... well basically everything in this section of the Wikipedia article (the stuff in the Deram Records section). She also said that among those, A Question of Balance is especially prog stuff. But any of their stuff is great.

  • shutzshutz Registered User regular
    I'd say these three albums by The Flaming Lips feel very much prog to me:

    - The Soft Bulletin
    - Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots
    - At War with the Mystics

    I own all three in a CD+DVD-Audio package, and the DVD audio includes a 5.1 mix of each album that includes some bits that aren't on the original stereo mixes. Also, you might want to check out their cover of Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. It has a very different vibe than the original album, and I know a lot of Floyd fans hate it, but I still like it. And if you like its somewhat cacophonous sound, you might actually like their more recent album, Embryonic (which I liked a lot less than the previous 3 albums.)

    I'd say that, for many of the bands listed in the OP, you could just go and listen to other albums by the same artists.

    Another band you might want to look into: Deep Purple, especially the stuff that was made by the first two incarnations of the band:

    Deep Purple mk1 :
    - Shades of Deep Purple
    - The Book of Taliesyn (possibly the weakest of these three albums)
    - Deep Purple

    The latter includes this gem:
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    Deep Purple mk2 :
    - In Rock
    - Fireball
    - Machine Head (their most well-known album -- the proggiest track on there is probably "Lazy".)

    I may have missed it, but I don't see any love in here for Jethro Tull. Anything from the 60's up until the mid-70's is generally good, and I don't remember ever listening to a particularly bad Tull album, either (though I haven't paid much attention to anything they've done since the 90's).

    Albums of note:
    - Stand Up (kind of proto-prog, bluesier and rockier... not as technical, musically, than what came later. Highlights include "Bourrée", and "We Used to Know", the latter of which uses a chord progression that is practically the same as the one in a huge hit by an American band who use a bird species as their name)
    - Aqualung (highlights include the title track, "Locomotive Breath", and "My God". Recently re-released in a 40th anniversary package, including a new stereo mix that is a major improvement, compared with the remaster that came out in the 90's.)
    - Thick as a Brick (The infamous album-length epic song. It doesn't get any proggier than that.)
    - A Passion Play (Another album-length epic, although it's broken up by the pseudo-play in the middle. Not as good as Thick as a Brick, but still great, with some funny moments.)
    - Other albums that I regularly hear about: Benefit, War Child, Songs from the Wood. They're not as memorable to me, but I still remember them as sounding pretty good.

    Another direction you might look into: Frank Zappa. He has so many albums out that it can be hard to figure out what to check out, but here's some particularly proggy suggestions:
    - Hot Rats (especially the opening track, Peaches En Regalia)
    - Apostrophe'
    - One Size Fits All (especially the opener, "Inca Roads", one of Zappa's best solos ever.)
    - Joe's Garage (proggy highlights include "Outside Now", "He Used to Cut the Grass", and possibly Zappa's best solo ever, "Watermelon in Easter Hay")

    Be warned: if you really get into Zappa's stuff after listening to these albums, you're in for quite a shock: the guy released close to 70 albums while he was alive, and since he died in '94, his family have been releasing more and more stuff, some of which is definitely worthwhile. In particular, after you listen to all of Joe's Garage, and to Inca Roads, see if you can find the track "Occam's Razor", which is a long solo that was released on a recent album. What you will hear then will sound familiar, and new, at the same time.

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    Don't forget the stuff Zappa did with The Mothers. Not exactly there, but it gets close.

    -Freak Out! (Help I'm a Rock, Return of the Son of the Monster Magnet)
    -Uncle Meat (King Kong, Dog Breath, Uncle Meat)
    -We're Only In It For the Money (pretty much the whole album, it's not that long)
    -Weasels Ripped My Flesh (Didja Get Any Onya?, Toads of the Short Forest, Oh No + The Orange County Lumber Truck).

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