PA comic: Friday Nov. 11, 2011 - Thank You, Edgar

kingworks

My online gaming experience is extremely limited.

The worst verbal abuse I have been exposed to is on TF2, and even that is pretty tame compared to what I hear about (but have never heard myself) in other games/platforms.

Darric

It is me, I am weedgod420.

Black_Heart

I think a better solution is not to play online FPSes.

Its a rule that has served me well in avoiding angry children, general online trash, and not wasting my time with an over-saturated dull genre of games that get pumped out every few months.

Shen

"The answer is to mute them. Mute them right away and never stop muting them. Mute them forever."

Looks like we have two poets!

trunkmonkey

This was amazing. I need a high quality poster for sale on the store ASAP.

Darmak

I love playing games with these shitbags. I, much like Jerry, am an asshole and as such I'm unable to be offended by anything these people have to say and I find it pretty goddamn hilarious when they explode over the dumbest stuff. Stuff that I happen to provide. I actively seek these guys out and do everything I can to ruin their day.

Does that make me a worse fuckhead?

Slaign

the Professor wrote:

If slightly tarnished by Tycho and/or Gabe's recurring pet peeve of a plant, overlapping with distinctly unsavory individuals who are fond of said plant, and whatnot.

That's not even a gripe on my part, FWIW. I've been reading PA since I was eleven years old, I'm used to T&G's little recurring quirks, like that.

It just made me snicker, and go, 'heh', for a second. Barely impacted my enjoyment.

Edit: Because I'm not the one calling the shots on this here webby-comic. But it seemed to me, just for a second, a moment, even, that the dudes called 'NOBAMA_2012' and such loudly informing us how they're going to hang themselves some N-Words, while I'm in MW3 or Reach, are heinous enough to warrant a mute.

They aren't, probably, because I am completely retarded

I often find myself questioning this myself. I mean, as often as it comes up, which isn't terribly often. It's not like PA is campaigning against plant lovers. Just every once in awhile, over years of following the comics and blog, things come up which indicate an anti-plant stance.

At the end of the day, though, I get the impression it's not about the plant itself or the use thereof. It's more about the people that not only enjoy the plant, but seem to base their entire identity around it. Let's face it, even among us mature plant lovers, most of us have gone through a phase where we thought the plant was the coolest thing and we wanted everyone to know.

I personally think the guys are smart enough to know not every plant lover is like the stereotype. Just like most WoW players don't like being associated with the vocal minority that makes up the stereotype, plant lovers suffer the same problem. Most of us aren't so bad, but the loud ones give us a bad name. Like WoW, you would be surprised how many people you know and respect enjoy our past time, because they aren't like the stereotype at all.

This is a humor site though, and stereotypes are a part of humor. If they started writing out disclaimers to their jokes, they'd spend more time on that than on humor. So it's up to us to not be sensitive to it, and realize that guy exists, and we're not that guy, and just hope everyone else is smart enough to realize, we're not that guy simply by association.

As for the racism angle being more important, it's easier to laugh at a harmless if annoying plant lover than it is to laugh at someone so broken they think it's OK to hate other people based on race.

Aurich

the Professor wrote:

Indeed, these people are largely shitbags. I hear and agree entirely.

They are, however, only shitbags. The racists on XBL are hateful shitbags.

I would not have even blinked, if he had included the hideously relevant topic of XBL racism earning MUTE STATUS.

He has addressed the crazy racists on there before, too, so it made me scratch my head a bit. You can see how it may have given me pause, there.

It really doesn't concern me, though. And I'm certainly not going to split some hairs about it.


Postscript:

"But Professor, you silly retarded goose, we DO NOT NEED to talk about Racism in Gaming! And neither does Jerry?"

Nah.

It is a Thing. It is definitely, without a doubt, a Thing, that Needs To Be Addressed. It impacts our community. Everyone should address it. Every single gaming webcomic with a huge community should frequently address the topic, and raise awareness.

As Archimedes said, give me a microphone, and a place to stand at PAX, and I'll open up the convention with, Guys, we need to talk about Racism. On Xbox Live.

The mistake you've made here, and I'm trying to be genuinely informative and not rude here, is thinking The Gents care. I recall a podcast (the one with the cigarette pre-order bonus for the quit smoking game) where Tycho mirthfully mocks the idea of making comics that deliver an important message.

If I may be so bold, and I'm being less polite here (), I think you're just ruffled that the weed I suspect you enjoy has been painted in a decidedly ungenerous light.

Charger347

Darmak wrote:

I love playing games with these shitbags. I, much like Jerry, am an asshole and as such I'm unable to be offended by anything these people have to say and I find it pretty goddamn hilarious when they explode over the dumbest stuff. Stuff that I happen to provide. I actively seek these guys out and do everything I can to ruin their day.

Does that make me a worse fuckhead?

Yes, but you're OUR fuckhead, a force of evil used for the purposes of good.

Or you could look at it as just feeding the fire burning down your house in an attempt to spite it.

There is deep philosophical shit in this discussion. All I got to say is these 14yr old shitbags, the ones that are spouting shit dirty enough to make a man that fantasizes about ostrich alien tentacle porn (Tycho) cringe, are our FUTURE. They will not grow up. Ever. Because the stupidity they throw at each other just fuels them to greater stupidity, the worlds most destructive perpetual motion machine.

They are our future... we have no hope.

jwalk

Darric wrote:

It is me, I am weedgod420.

add me to your friends list

my handle is

xXx_420Sm0kW33d_xXx[420]

GreasyKidsStuff

My friend's GT is JonasBroz4Lyfe or something to that effect, something he uses explicitly as a joke. The vulgar things people say to him are ridiculous. Somebody sent him a message saying "kill yourself". That's it. There was nothing else.

Who are these people?!

glithert

I used to put rainbows and hearts all over all my black ops stuff to piss people off

Jars

I've always felt like there is an innate need to dehumanize your opponents in competitive play.

Tofystedeth

Slaign wrote:

I often find myself questioning this myself. I mean, as often as it comes up, which isn't terribly often. It's not like PA is campaigning against plant lovers. Just every once in awhile, over years of following the comics and blog, things come up which indicate an anti-plant stance.

At the end of the day, though, I get the impression it's not about the plant itself or the use thereof. It's more about the people that not only enjoy the plant, but seem to base their entire identity around it.

It's this, Tycho has said at least once in PATV that's he's done the drugs. Like all of them.

Slaign

Tofystedeth wrote:

Slaign wrote:

I often find myself questioning this myself. I mean, as often as it comes up, which isn't terribly often. It's not like PA is campaigning against plant lovers. Just every once in awhile, over years of following the comics and blog, things come up which indicate an anti-plant stance.

At the end of the day, though, I get the impression it's not about the plant itself or the use thereof. It's more about the people that not only enjoy the plant, but seem to base their entire identity around it.

It's this, Tycho has said at least once in PATV that's he's done the drugs. Like all of them.

I need to check out PATV, I've only seen a few episodes.

On another subject: "I often find myself questioning this myself." Ugh. Why couldn't I have noticed that when I read through the post before posting it? Terrible.

Jam Warrior

Slaign wrote:

Tofystedeth wrote:

Slaign wrote:

I often find myself questioning this myself. I mean, as often as it comes up, which isn't terribly often. It's not like PA is campaigning against plant lovers. Just every once in awhile, over years of following the comics and blog, things come up which indicate an anti-plant stance.

At the end of the day, though, I get the impression it's not about the plant itself or the use thereof. It's more about the people that not only enjoy the plant, but seem to base their entire identity around it.

It's this, Tycho has said at least once in PATV that's he's done the drugs. Like all of them.

I need to check out PATV, I've only seen a few episodes.

On another subject: "I often find myself questioning this myself." Ugh. Why couldn't I have noticed that when I read through the post before posting it? Terrible.

Probably because you were too high hippy.

Anialos

I second the motion that this be made into shirt. If I did more gaming of the variety that these "people" inhabit, I might even buy one.

Tofystedeth

Gabes post about open world game is exactly the reason I tend not to play them as well.

EvilBadman

Anialos wrote:

I second the motion that this be made into shirt. If I did more gaming of the variety that these "people" inhabit, I might even buy one.

There's a print, which is like a shirt, but unwearable.

On the topic of mute everybody, I tend to play in parties over live which mutes everyone outside and contains my squeals of joy in the cone of awkward silence.

Godfather

I got a good chuckle out of this one, which is something I never seem to do with comics. The clever phrasing is just wonderful.

Propriety

I must admit, I really do love the comic more when Jerry takes the stage.

If they know you’re a girl that gives these monsters an obvious avenue of attack. If you’re just a dude they need to be more, “creative”.

What's the obvious avenue of attack? That they can make fun of you for being a girl? That's fucked up.

If you're a girl, they insult you by calling you a girl. If you're a guy, they insult you by calling you a girl. Ugh.

Gaslight

What the hell would be the point of putting this on a shirt? Its not like anyone would be able to read it with the font as small as it would have to be.

Slaign

Jam Warrior wrote:

Probably because you were too high hippy.

I wish. That stuff costs money I don't have.

Toldo

Comic of the Year 2011.

Charger347

Gaslight wrote:

What the hell would be the point of putting this on a shirt? Its not like anyone would be able to read it with the font as small as it would have to be.

True, but they could do a remake similar to Tycho's rant on the dark powers he would invoke to get Gabe to shut up about warhammer online. Redo the font, use two pictures to each side, etc.

I see it more as something that the visual design being so uniquely PA that most of us who read the comic would recognize it on sight and get a warm feeling to fill the empty cavities of our souls with memories of better times. The hell with anyone who doesn't get it.

Pretty much the exact same reason that I wear my "I R Epic Fail Boat In Space" shirt. To confound everyone else.

RoyceSraphim

I have Gabe's problem in that I don't want to randomly murder anyone for fear of dooming this world I am in.

the Professor

Slaign wrote:

Tofystedeth wrote:

Slaign wrote:

I often find myself questioning this myself. I mean, as often as it comes up, which isn't terribly often. It's not like PA is campaigning against plant lovers. Just every once in awhile, over years of following the comics and blog, things come up which indicate an anti-plant stance.

At the end of the day, though, I get the impression it's not about the plant itself or the use thereof. It's more about the people that not only enjoy the plant, but seem to base their entire identity around it.

It's this, Tycho has said at least once in PATV that's he's done the drugs. Like all of them.

I need to check out PATV, I've only seen a few episodes.

On another subject: "I often find myself questioning this myself." Ugh. Why couldn't I have noticed that when I read through the post before posting it? Terrible.

While I would like to believe that he was playing it straight - and, to be quite honest, he wouldn't be the first long-winded, lucid user of substances I have heard of - I think Tycho was being funny when he said that.

He probably wouldn't condone illegal substances on a media outlet he owns.

Condoning the trafficking and usage of controlled, very much illegal substances is hardly the done thing, after all.

GR_Zombie

the Professor wrote:

Slaign wrote:

Tofystedeth wrote:

Slaign wrote:

I often find myself questioning this myself. I mean, as often as it comes up, which isn't terribly often. It's not like PA is campaigning against plant lovers. Just every once in awhile, over years of following the comics and blog, things come up which indicate an anti-plant stance.

At the end of the day, though, I get the impression it's not about the plant itself or the use thereof. It's more about the people that not only enjoy the plant, but seem to base their entire identity around it.

It's this, Tycho has said at least once in PATV that's he's done the drugs. Like all of them.

I need to check out PATV, I've only seen a few episodes.

On another subject: "I often find myself questioning this myself." Ugh. Why couldn't I have noticed that when I read through the post before posting it? Terrible.

While I would like to believe that he was playing it straight - and, to be quite honest, he wouldn't be the first long-winded, lucid user of substances I have heard of - I think Tycho was being funny when he said that.

He probably wouldn't condone illegal substances on a media outlet he owns.

Condoning the trafficking and usage of controlled, very much illegal substances is hardly the done thing, after all.

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic here or not.

the Professor

GR_Zombie wrote:

the Professor wrote:

Slaign wrote:

Tofystedeth wrote:

Slaign wrote:

I often find myself questioning this myself. I mean, as often as it comes up, which isn't terribly often. It's not like PA is campaigning against plant lovers. Just every once in awhile, over years of following the comics and blog, things come up which indicate an anti-plant stance.

At the end of the day, though, I get the impression it's not about the plant itself or the use thereof. It's more about the people that not only enjoy the plant, but seem to base their entire identity around it.

It's this, Tycho has said at least once in PATV that's he's done the drugs. Like all of them.

I need to check out PATV, I've only seen a few episodes.

On another subject: "I often find myself questioning this myself." Ugh. Why couldn't I have noticed that when I read through the post before posting it? Terrible.

While I would like to believe that he was playing it straight - and, to be quite honest, he wouldn't be the first long-winded, lucid user of substances I have heard of - I think Tycho was being funny when he said that.

He probably wouldn't condone illegal substances on a media outlet he owns.

Condoning the trafficking and usage of controlled, very much illegal substances is hardly the done thing, after all.

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic here or not.

When things step into illegal territory, it is serious.

I would like to believe that Tycho wasn't merely having a laugh with us, and that he is, in fact, an experienced poly-drug user.

But he's a guy with a kid, and I'm convinced he doesn't want to give law enforcement a reason.

Tofystedeth

You think they're going to arrest him for saying in an interview about drugs that in the past he has tried drugs? Watch out Ozzie.

The Good Doctor Tran

the Professor wrote: »

GR_Zombie wrote:

the Professor wrote:

Slaign wrote:

Tofystedeth wrote:

Slaign wrote:

I often find myself questioning this myself. I mean, as often as it comes up, which isn't terribly often. It's not like PA is campaigning against plant lovers. Just every once in awhile, over years of following the comics and blog, things come up which indicate an anti-plant stance.

At the end of the day, though, I get the impression it's not about the plant itself or the use thereof. It's more about the people that not only enjoy the plant, but seem to base their entire identity around it.

It's this, Tycho has said at least once in PATV that's he's done the drugs. Like all of them.

I need to check out PATV, I've only seen a few episodes.

On another subject: "I often find myself questioning this myself." Ugh. Why couldn't I have noticed that when I read through the post before posting it? Terrible.

While I would like to believe that he was playing it straight - and, to be quite honest, he wouldn't be the first long-winded, lucid user of substances I have heard of - I think Tycho was being funny when he said that.

He probably wouldn't condone illegal substances on a media outlet he owns.

Condoning the trafficking and usage of controlled, very much illegal substances is hardly the done thing, after all.

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic here or not.

When things step into illegal territory, it is serious.

I would like to believe that Tycho wasn't merely having a laugh with us, and that he is, in fact, an experienced poly-drug user.

But he's a guy with a kid, and I'm convinced he doesn't want to give law enforcement a reason.

That there first amendment is a hell of a thing, huh?

Aurich

Tycho seems reasonably repentant of his druggy past. You can occasionally see him bristle at Gabe's rigid anti-any-drugs-at-all-because-they're-evil stance.

Super380

I couldn't help but read this in James Earl Jones' voice, ala The Raven. Well done indeed guys.

coldfrog

The rhyme scheme in today's comic is remarkably familiar...
Even if it was done purposely, I certainly wouldn't blame him them for using a technique from one of my favorite wordsmiths. Love it!

Gaslight

coldfrog wrote:

The rhyme scheme in today's comic is remarkably familiar...
Even if it was done purposely, I certainly wouldn't blame him them for using a technique from one of my favorite wordsmiths. Love it!

It's almost like they were both written by people who've read Poe's "The Raven," etc.

the Professor

The Good Doctor Tran wrote:

That there first amendment is a hell of a thing, huh?

I thought that was just a story, an urban legend, even, in our modern police state world. :?:

Aurich wrote:

Tycho seems reasonably repentant of his druggy past. You can occasionally see him bristle at Gabe's rigid anti-any-drugs-at-all-because-they're-evil stance.

Good one! I thought he was just putting Gabe in his place, which is a Thing That He Does.

GR_Zombie

the Professor wrote:

The Good Doctor Tran wrote:

That there first amendment is a hell of a thing, huh?

I thought that was just a story, an urban legend, even, in our modern police state world. :?:

Are you serious?

the Professor

GR_Zombie wrote:

the Professor wrote:

The Good Doctor Tran wrote:

That there first amendment is a hell of a thing, huh?

I thought that was just a story, an urban legend, even, in our modern police state world. :?:

Are you serious?

In this case, no.

But there are certain limits to 'free speech', as anyone here will know.