[Sandusky Sex Abuse] 60mil fine for Penn St, 4 year post season ban

So It Goes

Jerry Sandusky used to be a coach in the Penn State football program.

A recent scandal broke showing that several members of the program and university administration were aware of alleged sexual abuse of young boys by Sandusky and nothing was ever reported to police. Sandusky helped run a charity for at-risk young boys.

Sandusky has been indicted, with 8 victims so far, and the university president and long time head football coach, Joe Paterno, have been fired. Two others have been indicted for lying to the grand jury, Tim Curley, athletic director, and Gary Schultz, senior vp for finance and business.

Penn State students rioted at the news of JoePa being fired. Jon Stewart does not approve. http://www.newser.com/story/133116/video-jon-stewart-shames-penn-state-rioters-on-the-daily-show.html?utm_medium=fark&utm_campaign=pop

Grand jury indictment: http://www.crewof42.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Sandusky-indictment.pdf

Sandusky's bail was set by a judge who allegedly has ties to his charity. http://deadspin.com/5859075/judge-who-set-unsecured-bail-for-jerry-sandusky-is-a-second-mile-volunteer

Sandusky did a creepy national TV interview with Bob Costas. Part of it didn't air. http://pittsburgh.sbnation.com/penn-st-nittany-lions/2011/11/15/2564760/jerry-sandusky-interview-unaired-portion-raises-questions-about

Sandusky published an autobiography titled "Touched" in 2001.

Assistant coach McQueary is cited in the indictment as having directly seen Sandusky raping a boy in the locker room in 2002. He has since stated he actually stopped what was happening. He reported it to Paterno, who then reported up the chain of administration to Curley. Sandusky retired in 1999 but still had access to the facilities through the charity. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15750684


So here is a place to discuss this and the new stuff that comes out about this scandal, which is becoming worse by the day, really.

syndalis

that TV interview is one of the craziest things I have ever heard.

His lawyer scheduled it for him.

Part of me hopes the lawyer did that on purpose.

So It Goes

syndalis wrote:

that TV interview is one of the craziest things I have ever heard.

His lawyer scheduled it for him.

Part of me hopes the lawyer did that on purpose.

I don't think it helped him, honestly.

and I wonder if it was even ethical on the lawyer's part!

So It Goes

Here is the part that didn't air:

BOB COSTAS

19:00:28:00: "But isn't what you're just describing the classic MO of many pedophiles? And that is that they gain the trust of young people, they don't necessarily abuse every young person. There were hundreds, if not thousands of young boys you came into contact with, but there are allegations that at least eight of them were victimized. Many people believe there are more to come. So it's entirely possible that you could've helped young boy A in some way that was not objectionable while horribly taking advantage of young boy B, C, D, and E. Isn't that possible?"

JERRY SANDUSKY:

19:01:01:00: "Well -- you might think that. I don't know. (LAUGHS) In terms of -- my relationship with so many, many young people. I would-- I would guess that there are many young people who would come forward. Many more young people who would come forward and say that my methods and-- and what I had done for them made a very positive impact on their life. And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have-- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

Evil_Reaver

So It Goes wrote:

syndalis wrote:

that TV interview is one of the craziest things I have ever heard.

His lawyer scheduled it for him.

Part of me hopes the lawyer did that on purpose.

I don't think it helped him, honestly.

and I wonder if it was even ethical on the lawyer's part!

Sandusky might try to sue his attorney for malpractice if the attorney did, in fact, schedule this interview/not intervene during the interview. There's a lot that would have to be proven in a malpractice suit, but yeah, the attorney could face civil liability if he had anything to do with the interview.

Invisible

Considering Sandusky's attorney impregnated and later married a 16-year-old when he was 49, he doesn't like the brightest guy.

syndalis

Invisible wrote:

Considering Sandusky's attorney impregnated and later married a 16-year-old when he was 49, he doesn't like the brightest guy.

I feel like reality is punking me.

I mean, a guy who ran a charity for at risk youth, who wrote a book called "touched" is a pedophile who chooses a cradle robber for his attorney? Really?

So It Goes

Oh yeah I forgot to put that in the OP.

So messed up.

Elki

That interview was the most uncomfortable thing I've ever seen/heard on television. Going forward, I'm going to pretend this case doesn't exist.

KalTorak

So It Goes wrote:

Here is the part that didn't air:

BOB COSTAS

19:00:28:00: "But isn't what you're just describing the classic MO of many pedophiles? And that is that they gain the trust of young people, they don't necessarily abuse every young person. There were hundreds, if not thousands of young boys you came into contact with, but there are allegations that at least eight of them were victimized. Many people believe there are more to come. So it's entirely possible that you could've helped young boy A in some way that was not objectionable while horribly taking advantage of young boy B, C, D, and E. Isn't that possible?"

JERRY SANDUSKY:

19:01:01:00: "Well -- you might think that. I don't know. (LAUGHS) In terms of -- my relationship with so many, many young people. I would-- I would guess that there are many young people who would come forward. Many more young people who would come forward and say that my methods and-- and what I had done for them made a very positive impact on their life. And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have-- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

Kids are like a Subway club card - get it punched every time you help a kid; turn in a fully-punched card for a guilt-free child-rape.

Ugh, maybe now that the famous coach guy is gone the media will turn back to burning this motherfucker alive.

Magus`

That is one HELL of a 'flub', my god.

Bullio

So he's using the Herman Cain defense? That will work out well for him.

That Costas interview was just...strange. I don't know if Sandusky is totally oblivious or emotionally detached from his current situation and what he's done, or if he was medicated during the interview. He did not come across as a person that is feeling anything resembling remorse or guilt.

EDIT: Also, I nominate this photo for the OP.

Spoiler:

Eat it You Nasty Pig.

That interview is unbelievably surreal.

Siska

So It Goes wrote:

Here is the part that didn't air:

BOB COSTAS

19:00:28:00: "But isn't what you're just describing the classic MO of many pedophiles? And that is that they gain the trust of young people, they don't necessarily abuse every young person. There were hundreds, if not thousands of young boys you came into contact with, but there are allegations that at least eight of them were victimized. Many people believe there are more to come. So it's entirely possible that you could've helped young boy A in some way that was not objectionable while horribly taking advantage of young boy B, C, D, and E. Isn't that possible?"

JERRY SANDUSKY:

19:01:01:00: "Well -- you might think that. I don't know. (LAUGHS) In terms of -- my relationship with so many, many young people. I would-- I would guess that there are many young people who would come forward. Many more young people who would come forward and say that my methods and-- and what I had done for them made a very positive impact on their life. And I didn't go around seeking out every young person for sexual needs that I've helped. There are many that I didn't have-- I hardly had any contact with who I have helped in many, many ways."

What the crap! Either that is the poorest choice of words ever, or he just admitted on camera to having sex with kids. He must have the worlds dumbest lawyer.

The Ender

That Costas interview was just...strange. I don't know if Sandusky is totally oblivious or emotionally detached from his current situation and what he's done, or if he was medicated during the interview. He did not come across as a person that is feeling anything resembling remorse or guilt.

it's called 'psychopathy'.

"It doesn't matter what I did! These kids will vouch for me! THEY'LL VOUCH FOR ME, DAMMIT! I'm always allowed to get away with this shit when people cover-up my horrifying behavior for me because I'm a smooth-talker, so I don't see why it should be different this time!"


Yeah, 'Touched' the biography. What a sick motherfucker. Well, at least we now know that he's been an active predator since at least 2001, which makes the idea that he's only raped 8 victims pretty laughable.

This

I liked the part in the video when Sandusky is answering the "are you attracted to kids question" and it cuts to his lawyer swallowing nervously.

Zampanov

"Listen, I didn't bang every kid I ever met, c'man what'm I some kinda jerk?"

815165

Zampanov wrote:

"Listen, I didn't bang every kid I ever met, c'man what'm I some kinda jerk?"

In his defence, some of them might have been ugly.

Kistra

KalTorak wrote:

Kids are like a Subway club card - get it punched every time you help a kid; turn in a fully-punched card for a guilt-free child-rape.

Ugh, maybe now that the famous coach guy is gone the media will turn back to burning this motherfucker alive.

Hahaha. You mean now that Paterno has been fired maybe the media will actually start talking about Sandusky? ESPN managed to talk about the scandal for 3 or 4 days without regularly mentioning anyone by name other than Paterno.

Scooter

It's times like this I'm glad I don't follow sports at all. People have talked about Paterno like he's some kind of local god, but he's a nobody to me. Fuck whatever special treatment these guys got because they're in football.

Panda4You

Zampanov wrote:

"Listen, I didn't bang every kid I ever met, c'man what'm I some kinda jerk?"

That location/sig/everything...

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

:^:

King Riptor

Kistra wrote:

KalTorak wrote:

Kids are like a Subway club card - get it punched every time you help a kid; turn in a fully-punched card for a guilt-free child-rape.

Ugh, maybe now that the famous coach guy is gone the media will turn back to burning this motherfucker alive.

Hahaha. You mean now that Paterno has been fired maybe the media will actually start talking about Sandusky? ESPN managed to talk about the scandal for 3 or 4 days without regularly mentioning anyone by name other than Paterno.

Its disgusting that the media did this.

Joe Paterno was wrong he admitted as much but maybe focus on the deranged sexual predator

The Ender

Hahaha. You mean now that Paterno has been fired maybe the media will actually start talking about Sandusky? ESPN managed to talk about the scandal for 3 or 4 days without regularly mentioning anyone by name other than Paterno.

That's downright fucked. Why would they be interested in protecting Sandusky?

Zek

The Ender wrote:

Hahaha. You mean now that Paterno has been fired maybe the media will actually start talking about Sandusky? ESPN managed to talk about the scandal for 3 or 4 days without regularly mentioning anyone by name other than Paterno.

That's downright fucked. Why would they be interested in protecting Sandusky?

I think everybody knows that Sandusky is going down, the media doesn't need to condemn him for that to happen. Paterno is the celebrity going down in flames, of course he gets the media coverage.

acidlacedpenguin

Don't you guys know? It's not rape if you call it horseplay!

Also it's not gay if you say "good game."

but seriously, Sandusky's going to burn in hell, and I don't even believe in it... I just hope he burns on earth, too-- just in case the afterlife is make believe.

Preacher

Mcqueary's new statements read like so much ITG bs. I wonder if that email could be used to hit him for perjury since his new statement directly contradicts what he told the grand jury. Especially about talking to police.

Druk

When calling the attorney a cradle robber, that's going by the '1/2 Age + 7' rule, right? Because the age of consent in PA is 16.

RocketSauce

The really fucked up thing about his interview is he claims he was just showering with young boys, as if that was better. Any adult who isn't looking to exploit a child knows this is wrong and he is creating a situation where the possibility of exploitation could occur. I'm going to bet this is not even the worst of what will come out.

a5ehren

Druk wrote:

When calling the attorney a cradle robber, that's going by the '1/2 Age + 7' rule, right? Because the age of consent in PA is 16.

If you're damn near 50 and banging someone that's young enough that you'd have to get their parents' written permission to marry them, it's pretty safe to say you're a cradle robber. At a minimum, it's horribly unethical to bang a current/former client (of any age).

Modern Man

syndalis wrote:

that TV interview is one of the craziest things I have ever heard.

His lawyer scheduled it for him.

Part of me hopes the lawyer did that on purpose.

His lawyer scheduled the interview? A sane lawyer would threaten to quit if his client decided to do an interview like this.

I read a comment somewhere that this interview might turn out to be Sandusky's suicide note.

a5ehren

Modern Man wrote:

syndalis wrote:

that TV interview is one of the craziest things I have ever heard.

His lawyer scheduled it for him.

Part of me hopes the lawyer did that on purpose.

His lawyer scheduled the interview? A sane lawyer would threaten to quit if his client decided to do an interview like this.

I read a comment somewhere that this interview might turn out to be Sandusky's suicide note.

Originally, the interview was going to be of the lawyer. He then had the brilliant idea to let Sandusky speak for himself. Worst. Lawyer. Ever.

adytum

a5ehren wrote:

Druk wrote:

When calling the attorney a cradle robber, that's going by the '1/2 Age + 7' rule, right? Because the age of consent in PA is 16.

If you're damn near 50 and banging someone that's young enough that you'd have to get their parents' written permission to marry them, it's pretty safe to say you're a cradle robber. At a minimum, it's horribly unethical to bang a current/former client (of any age).

According to the article she worked for his law firm and they were "friends" before he represented her for emancipation. So there was a personal relationship before he represented her.

FWIW.

Which isn't much.

Modern Man

Druk wrote:

When calling the attorney a cradle robber, that's going by the '1/2 Age + 7' rule, right? Because the age of consent in PA is 16.

Just because a relationship is legal, doesn't mean it isn't creepy.

A guy pushing 50 banging someone less than half his age is just creepy.

a5ehren

adytum wrote:

a5ehren wrote:

Druk wrote:

When calling the attorney a cradle robber, that's going by the '1/2 Age + 7' rule, right? Because the age of consent in PA is 16.

If you're damn near 50 and banging someone that's young enough that you'd have to get their parents' written permission to marry them, it's pretty safe to say you're a cradle robber. At a minimum, it's horribly unethical to bang a current/former client (of any age).

According to the article she worked for his law firm and they were "friends" before he represented her for emancipation. So there was a personal relationship before he represented her.

FWIW.

Which isn't much.

Wow. So he was banging her (a subordinate employee at that), her parents wouldn't let them get married, so he had her legally emancipated? Super creepy.

3lwap0

Elki wrote:

That interview was the most uncomfortable thing I've ever seen/heard on television. Going forward, I'm going to pretend this case doesn't exist.

Moral of this story:

If you can't answer the question "Are you sexually attracted to young boys?" with "Absolutely not, don't be stupid." Then don't do the interview.

Modern Man

3lwap0 wrote:

Elki wrote:

That interview was the most uncomfortable thing I've ever seen/heard on television. Going forward, I'm going to pretend this case doesn't exist.

Moral of this story:

If you can't answer the question "Are you sexually attracted to young boys?" with "Absolutely not, don't be stupid." Then don't do the interview.

I'd go beyond that and say that if you find yourself in a situation where someone asking you that question is actually a realistic possibility, you shouldn't do the interview.

rockrnger

One of the lawyers here could help me out but could this be a attempt Screw with the trial? I mean, smart money is on this guy going to jail for the rest if his life so the longer the trial takes the better off he is.

Modern Man

It's not unheard of for lawyers in high profile cases to try and influence the public's perception of their client. I guess if you make your client seem more sympathetic, you hope to have a better shot with the jury.

If that's what Sandusky and his lawyer were trying to do with this interview, I can't say that it was a success.

Magic Pink

King Riptor wrote:

Kistra wrote:

KalTorak wrote:

Kids are like a Subway club card - get it punched every time you help a kid; turn in a fully-punched card for a guilt-free child-rape.

Ugh, maybe now that the famous coach guy is gone the media will turn back to burning this motherfucker alive.

Hahaha. You mean now that Paterno has been fired maybe the media will actually start talking about Sandusky? ESPN managed to talk about the scandal for 3 or 4 days without regularly mentioning anyone by name other than Paterno.

Its disgusting that the media did this.

Joe Paterno was wrong he admitted as much but maybe focus on the deranged sexual predator

Yeah, someone who covers up child rape should be lauded! Because FOOTBALL.

Magus`

Yeah, how dare they fire that dude for covering up rape. There's SPORTS to be done.

King Riptor

I didn't say that at all you goose.

I just see no reason in focusing on Paterno to the point where some people had no clue what Sanduskys name was.