PA comic: Wednesday Nov. 16, 2011 - Mitigated

Munkus Beaver

Rorus Raz

I guess that super tanooki is 3D Land's Super Guide?

Munkus Beaver

Sounds like

jothki

The really humiliating part is that there are actually two levels of pity gifts. Keep dying even longer and you'll be given a P-Wing block.

Speed Racer

could they have come up with a more embarrassing Super Guide than glowing hooded footie pajamas

SabreMau

Is that another one of these modes?

Speed Racer

kind of

newer nintendo games have a thing where if you die a lot in a row, you unlock the ability to have the game play itself and beat the level for you

the idea is that they can make more difficult games while still letting less good players to make it all the way to the end, and they can watch the game play itself to learn how to do harder areas.

Karl

SabreMau wrote:

Is that another one of these modes?

Seriously, when DMC3 offered me easy mode it actually felt like it called me a pussy.

Galactic

I love how sarcastic those goombas look.

Lord_Asmodeus

Galactic wrote:

I love how sarcastic those goombas look.

Yes. My heart was filled with joy when I saw their snarky sarcastic smiles.

JustinSane07

Mario's completely dejected look in panel 3 is great.

Syphyre

Because it's vaguely related to today's comic...

Mario’s Raccoon Suit Enrages PETA

Vyolynce

Syphyre wrote:

Because it's vaguely related to today's comic...

Mario’s Raccoon Suit Enrages PETA

Super Mario 3D Land is not the first time Nintendo bestowed Mario with the now-controversial raccoon costume. The Tanooki suit first appeared in Super Mario Bros. 3, released on the Nintendo Entertainment System (NES) in 1990. In the game, touching a power-up in the shape of a leaf would suddenly give Mario a raccoon ears and a tail, and allow him to fly for a short period of time; however, the raccoon suit did not cover his entire body.

Except for the part where the full Tanooki Suit actually did appear in SMB3 (released over 20 years ago... great, now I feel old).

I'm saddened that Nintendo's response didn't mention this, but only because they bothered to respond at all. Maybe the next release should bring back the Frog Suit.

ThreeCubed

I love panel 3 goomba.

kingworks

I'm planning on suing Nintendo for the misrepresentation of the noble profession of plumbing.

Maybe PETA will hook me up with some of their lawyers.

Or I could claim gender discrimination at the fact that he's always having to rescue a helpless woman and have Gloria Allred hold a press conference.

KalTorak

Syphyre wrote:

Because it's vaguely related to today's comic...

Mario’s Raccoon Suit Enrages PETA

This strikes me as the MO of the Westboro Baptists. Something popular + token complaint related to the popular thing = free publicity.

MMMig

Goombas!

Lucascraft

What other Nintendo games play themselves for you? I've never heard of this before. Does Donkey Kong Country Returns do this? Because that game can be merciless at times.

Jacques L'Homme

Syphyre wrote:

Because it's vaguely related to today's comic...

Mario’s Raccoon Suit Enrages PETA

Man, everyone knows Shigeru Miyamoto personally strangles a fresh raccoon everyday for Nintendo's designers to model from.

Won the Nobel prize in the field of applied vermin extermination.

TheGerbil

Lucascraft wrote:

What other Nintendo games play themselves for you? I've never heard of this before. Does Donkey Kong Country Returns do this? Because that game can be merciless at times.

Yep DKR does it. Super Mario Galaxy 2 had it. Most Nintendo games have it if you start dying A LOT on the level.

Speed Racer

New Super Mario Bros. Wii has it as well, I think that was the game that started the idea

I'm pretty sure Skyward Sword has it too

Pata

TheGerbil wrote:

Lucascraft wrote:

What other Nintendo games play themselves for you? I've never heard of this before. Does Donkey Kong Country Returns do this? Because that game can be merciless at times.

Yep DKR does it. Super Mario Galaxy 2 had it. Most Nintendo games have it if you start dying A LOT on the level.

And there will always be stages in which you die a lot in them.

Syphyre

DKCR actually had a lot of very difficult stages, particularly the Kong Temple stages. Never did use the cheater to get my way through (I wanted all the puzzle pieces dammit) but sometimes getting your timing down can be a pain.

Enlong

I never saw the Super Guide in DKCR.

...but that was because I was playing co-op with my brother, like in the good ol' days with the first two DKC games. Bottom line is that the Super Guid doesn't show up in Co-Op mode, no mater how many dozens of balloons you pop trying to make one jump.

2 Marcus 2 Ravens

I'm glad Nintendo does this kind of thing. It's completely optional, is it not? There's was a seriously unfortunate trend of Nintendo making their games too easy for the casual gaming crowd, and this seems like a good way to appeal to both audiences.

I saw the one in New Super Mario Bros. Wii a couple times, and it always just made me try even harder. Not once did I cave and use it, but its mockery fueled my persistence.

GreasyKidsStuff

I agree that the system is a great compromise. God knows the last few Mario games have been hard as shit, there were definitely a few times in Galaxy 2 that I was tempted to use it.

I forgot this was coming out and I really want a 3DS now.

Topia

I very much enjoy this comic more than almost all I've seen recently.

Syphyre

The best part about the compromise (at least in DK) was that if you wanted to use the guide to complete the stage, you can, and go on to the next. But you don't get the completionist aspects (KONG letters and puzzle pieces.) So it's a great happy medium. Haven't played any of the other Nintendo games that use the guide, but hopefully it's similar

forty

Syphyre wrote:

The best part about the compromise (at least in DK) was that if you wanted to use the guide to complete the stage, you can, and go on to the next. But you don't get the completionist aspects (KONG letters and puzzle pieces.) So it's a great happy medium. Haven't played any of the other Nintendo games that use the guide, but hopefully it's similar

Yeah, it is. The super guide won't find star coins/comet medals in NSMBWii/SMG2 for you. It makes perfect sense since the point of the guides is to let you see the "ending" of the game, not necessarily all the secret content. Of course you could always come back later to try to get them yourself.

NSMBWii had a ridiculous thing where even just having the Super Guide block appear (I think it took 8 deaths in a level without reaching a new checkpoint) permanently tarnished your game. If you 100%'d the game without ever having the block appear, your save file's stars had a shine effect. If you ever died enough for the block to appear, even though you didn't hit it, no shiny stars. If you're OCD enough to care about that, it meant you had to reset and play all the levels since your last save if it ever popped up.

PMAvers

The 'Splosion Man games had the Path of Shame as well, where if you died a ton on a level it let you skip it. Can't remember what the penalties were for doing so, though.

DekuStick

Vyolynce wrote:

Syphyre wrote:

Because it's vaguely related to today's comic...

Mario’s Raccoon Suit Enrages PETA

Super Mario 3D Land is not the first time Nintendo bestowed Mario with the now-controversial raccoon costume. The Tanooki suit first appeared in Super Mario Bros. 3, released on the Nintendo Entertainment System (NES) in 1990. In the game, touching a power-up in the shape of a leaf would suddenly give Mario a raccoon ears and a tail, and allow him to fly for a short period of time; however, the raccoon suit did not cover his entire body.

Except for the part where the full Tanooki Suit actually did appear in SMB3 (released over 20 years ago... great, now I feel old).

I'm saddened that Nintendo's response didn't mention this, but only because they bothered to respond at all. Maybe the next release should bring back the Frog Suit.

I like how the Peta game New Super Chick Sisters which has you placed in the role as Chicken Mario or Chicken Luigi to save Princess Pamela Anderson so she can open her restaurant Double Delicious has an item where you wear the skin of an animal to give you powers.

Really love that third panel Goomba.

TubularLuggage

PMAvers wrote:

The 'Splosion Man games had the Path of Shame as well, where if you died a ton on a level it let you skip it. Can't remember what the penalties were for doing so, though.

It made the character wear a tutu on the next level, and I think the skipped level didn't count toward completion achievements until you went back and actually beat it.

Opty

forty wrote:

Syphyre wrote:

The best part about the compromise (at least in DK) was that if you wanted to use the guide to complete the stage, you can, and go on to the next. But you don't get the completionist aspects (KONG letters and puzzle pieces.) So it's a great happy medium. Haven't played any of the other Nintendo games that use the guide, but hopefully it's similar

Yeah, it is. The super guide won't find star coins/comet medals in NSMBWii/SMG2 for you. It makes perfect sense since the point of the guides is to let you see the "ending" of the game, not necessarily all the secret content. Of course you could always come back later to try to get them yourself.

NSMBWii had a ridiculous thing where even just having the Super Guide block appear (I think it took 8 deaths in a level without reaching a new checkpoint) permanently tarnished your game. If you 100%'d the game without ever having the block appear, your save file's stars had a shine effect. If you ever died enough for the block to appear, even though you didn't hit it, no shiny stars. If you're OCD enough to care about that, it meant you had to reset and play all the levels since your last save if it ever popped up.

Mario Land 3DS does the same thing and the pity item shows up after 5 deaths, so it'll be more frustrating for those people who want their shiny stars.

Pata

Thankfully the game saves after every level. So you don't lose any progress.

forty

Pata wrote:

Thankfully the game saves after every level. So you don't lose any progress.

Holy shit, really? What took this so long to make it into the 2D Mario series?

Also, it's too bad it's a 3DS game since I'll probably never actually play it.

PohTayToez

Syphyre wrote:

Because it's vaguely related to today's comic...

Mario’s Raccoon Suit Enrages PETA

What I'm taking from this is PETA thinks jumping on turtles is ok.