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So there's a little game called Fortune Street that came out today for the Wii. Known in Japan as Itadaki Street it's a board game that has been going on for about 20 years in Japan. English speaking countries have finally gotten one entry in this long running series, and it stars Mario and Dragon Quest characters. Also Miis but fuck them.
I'm not giving any pictures because there's not much to really show from screenshots since like I said above it's a board game. It's kind of like monopoly, except with stocks. Here's the general idea of how a game works. You go around a board buying properties, making money by having people land on yours and losing some when you land on others' property. If you land on your own you can upgrade any property of yours to make more money when people land on it. As you move around the board you try and collect all 4 suits (Spade, Club, Heart, and Diamond) so you can return to the bank and get a promotion. Whenever you return to the bank you can buy stocks and then sell them later. Or keep them and make small dividends off of other people's property. Prices can go higher or lower depending on if properties in the district the stock is for gets upgraded or is sold. As you make money your net worth goes up. Return to the bank when you reach the game's net worth quota and you win. While simple in theory there's actually a lot of strategy to the game that I have no idea of because this is my first time playing it. Stuff like buying other people's property and making good trades is a part of it I'm sure. Anyway it's deceptively deep.
So is it all just boring stuff like that? Well no, because there's also bonus squares to land on. You can go to chance time mini-games, pick a spot on a "scratcher" (While Yoshi's Island music plays no less) and see what bonus or penalty you receive, and more like that. Also don't think the boards are simple squares you walk around and get all the suits. Oh no, they're all kind of shapes and in later boards I think you can change the layout. So was someone on their way to their last suit? Not anymore. Now they're in Yangus Pier, home of 8 shops in a row that Yangus somehow managed to purchase.
So does that sound like it's your idea of a fun time? Because if it does then you're in luck as this game has online play in addition to local multiplayer! That's right, somebody said that the game should have online play and Nintendo/Square actually listened to them. You can battle against randoms or with friends (After entering in friend codes uggggh) for all sorts of fun "Fuck you" matches that will make them hate you by the end of it. If people actually care about this I might even have to put friend codes in the OP or something! So hopefully I got some people to actually care about this little gem of a game because I'm afraid it might get overlooked due to Zelda and the fact that the Wii is on its way out. If you're in the mood for a board game that isn't about mastering mini-games and you like Mario and Dragon Quest then don't pass this one up. Give it a shot. There's a reason this series has been going on for 20 years after all.
Imagine my surprise when I first discovered that the Command Board in Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep is really just a themed variant of this game. I was all like "why the fuck didn't we get this shit before?" because it is just that good (when you're just playing with friends and not against the AI for in-game rewards and stuff).
Yeah the Command Board is the closest thing we got to Fortune Street before this came out. Since that was an extremely light version of this it's probably a safe bet that if you enjoyed the Command Board you'll like this.
I finished the first DQ board of the tour tonight. I'm pretty sure the computer cheats, seeing as in one turn Princessa rolled a 6 to a suit and chained venture cards that gave another roll which were also 6 like three times so she got all the suits, but I just barely managed to win. I won with like 10038 net worth. Intense.
Yah the computers cheat for sure. I was playing a map and the computer won without taking any property at all. He just bought stocks and the rest of the AI bought the same ones.
I was hoping someone would make a thread for this game. I just picked it up as a Christmas present for my wife as she loves board games. I'm worried it might not be "casual" enough for her. How heavy is it on the mini games? I was kinda hoping for a kittle deeper version of Mario Party but it doesn't appear to be like that. Still looks rad though.
Mini-games are all chance. Pick a slime in a race, throw a dart, slots, and picking a ? block with something in it. There's no skill involved except maybe the darts. Also as I learned in a session just recently the first few turns can also decide a winner, because I got completely screwed and was only able to buy 2 properties before everything got bought. If it wasn't for my friends having pity on me we couldn't even have had an interesting end-game because I would have been knocked out way earlier.
Mini-games are all chance. Pick a slime in a race, throw a dart, slots, and picking a ? block with something in it. There's no skill involved except maybe the darts. Also as I learned in a session just recently the first few turns can also decide a winner, because I got completely screwed and was only able to buy 2 properties before everything got bought. If it wasn't for my friends having pity on me we couldn't even have had an interesting end-game because I would have been knocked out way earlier.
Also wow, a pure stock win. That's ridiculous.
yah it kinda sucks cause I had this gamewinning region set up. 9K on all of em
(this was on the second map of the DQ campaign, the rotating region.
Hooolyyyyyyyy shiiiiit the computer is a cheater. What the fuck. I just did the rotating region and I had total dominance of the northern sector and the island. Not once did Kiryl land on any of those shops. Neither did Stella. She landed on one once I think. How in the fuck am I supposed to win when the AI is programmed to go for Stella's shops and they never roll numbers to land on mine but instead the special spots between them?
Playing more rounds with friends earlier yeah the game has a bad tendency to favor one player over the others, but at least it's sometimes reasonable about it. Like it'll favor one person, but second place can be pretty close. The computer though? You don't stand a chance beating them. How can you possibly win when they always roll over your shops?
Maybe if this does well we'll get one for the 3DS or Vita, and in english? Maybe? Because that would be kind of cool. Although I can't really see playing an online match holding my DS for 3 hours unless I'm always doing something. Which you kind of aren't in this when it isn't your turn.
I think I may buy this. I have an unhealthy love for videogame boardgames.
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The sound of eight hooves reaches his ears, comes from the heavenly light, two wolves howls fills his heart with fear, and he sees two ravens fly. Down from the sky a warlord rides, like fire his one eye glows, and just before the preacher dies he knows his god is false.
Maybe if this does well we'll get one for the 3DS or Vita, and in english? Maybe? Because that would be kind of cool. Although I can't really see playing an online match holding my DS for 3 hours unless I'm always doing something. Which you kind of aren't in this when it isn't your turn.
whoa... matches last 3 hours? That might be a little too much like Monopoly for me.
Well they do against the computer because they're cheaters, against humans we've been averaging around 2. It takes so long against the computer because they're busy landing on chains of venture squares, buying stocks to increase price, selling them back at 9 each after increasing their worth, and then after 4 minutes of that you finally get to roll and you roll a 1. Humans it's much better because it's more likely that everybody except one gets screwed.
Protip: Never go to the sectioned off part of Yoshi's Island. It is a horrible place that you may never escape from as our friend blaze learned.
Spoiler:
He of course learned this after I was forced to go there and then another friend got a venture card that made everybody switch places.
I cannot deny the accusation, but I shall remind you once more that it was not I who picked the venture card that exiled you to Yoshi's Island's Island for 10 turns with no escape.
Also something lame I have learned: You can't have matches without 4 people. How lame. For every human spot not filled it has to have a computer in its place.
Also you should probably mention that for some asinine reason you can't play as Mario/Dragon Quest characters online, so you'll have to settle for raiding the Check Mii Out channel and screaming "Waluigi Number One!!!" over Xbox live instead.
Yeah, you can't play as anyone but Miis online, which is absolutely ridiculous because Miis are out of place in pretty much every game they're in. If you want to play as other characters you need to do local multiplayer. You can unlock costumes to make you look like other characters though, and what I don't know is if they're just similar to them or it makes you look exactly like them. I haven't unlocked any yet to find out.
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From what I saw, the win condition is to A) hit a minimum net worth and B) return to the bank.
The problem with this is that the game can allow for large fluctuations with net worth. Without any other limit on game length, it's very to tell your friends a game of this will take X amount of time.
I have this but it's going under the Christmas tree. I'm waffling on returning it now though based on game session length and I don't know if it would be a real hit as a family game in my house.
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It seems like a bit of an odd duck. You Mario characters and shit, which is cool, but I dunno if the Dragon Quest characters are gonna be huge hits with kids. And then there's the fact that the game is probably going to go over quite a few kids' heads. Hey kids! Let's make some real estate deals with-a Mario!
Alright, so after playing the Observatory board again and winning I have discovered a few tricks you can use to your advantage against the AI that may not be immediately clear, and I confirmed my suspicions on exactly how to use stock to your advantage. So if you're unclear on that then read on.
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1. Use the AI against themselves. All the characters have tendencies that you can try and exploit. For example, Stella loves to own property and stock. If she has the worth to get something in an auction she will buy it. Slime and Kiryl won't outbid her. How can you use this to your advantage? Well let's say you have some scattered shops but you need to buy someone out for district control. Sell some of those scattered buildings, preferably ones without other Stella properties in the district. She'll buy them up and you probably weren't using them anyway. She will also sell stock to cover the costs of her auctions, including ones she's heavily invested in.
2. The AI will always go for lower cost buildings on their turn if they absolutely must pay somebody. However this is bad, because even if the person they'll pay is in first they don't give a shit. If it's less they go for it. This is why winning against the computer is so hard, because a human would rather give more cash to the guy in last than help the person in first. For this reason you should not upgrade your properties right away. You of course want to wait until you have stock, but even then play it by ear. It's better for you if you have sucky stuff in the middle of expanded enemy districts because if your stuff is on a split path they'll go the other way if you're too much. Even if it puts them one space from the bank and they have all the suits.
3. This is the big stock one that I took a risk in confirming but I was pretty sure on how it worked. If you expand a building and it puts you into debt you can sell stock. This is obvious and one of the best ways to expand, as your stock will probably rise more than it'll drop and you'll make money. But what happens if you expand and that expansion causes your net worth to go over the quota? Won't it drop if you sell stock to cover the costs? Yes it will. If you only sell part of it. While other actions that affect stock sometimes take until the turn is over to kick in, such as buying stock at the bank to raise its value, expanding has an immediate effect. So does selling stock right afterward. If you sell all your stock in the area you just expanded that put you in the red in the first place, you will have absolutely no consequence except that you're out of stock for that place. But since you sold all your stock you won't be affected when the price immediately plummets afterward. So you can gain 4000 net worth, get the quota, be 2000 in debt, sell all your stock, and then walk away with a fat wad of cash as well as hurt everybody else that was invested in your area because you don't give a shit about it anymore. If you do this while you're, say, one space away from the bank then you're homefree.
I'm sure this stuff is pretty basic, but it can be hard to think clearly when you're fighting the computer because they're so ridiculous at times that you panic. In my run where I finally came in first on the Observatory the Slime almost won. Stella actually came in last. It's like the letters to signify AI don't mean anything. It's all about their traits.
Edit: Oh, one more thing that's easy to gloss over in the manual: There's no auctions in online matches. If you sell a shop it just goes to the bank. So if you're selling a property that would give someone else control of the district they'll need to get over to it first.
I dunno. I learned how to play Monopoly when I was 7 or so. I didn't really understand how to win, but I knew the rules about properties, and how to read the cards, and that generally, money was good.
But I think you're right in that the mix of characters is weird. One set are extremely popular and instantly recognizable, the other are interesting in their own right, but RPGs are much more niche outside of Japan, and at least in North America, we aren't constantly bombarded with their imagery in arcades, commercials, or turn Dragon Quest release dates into national holidays.
Can someone give me the rundown on what Easy Mode is like in this game? I've got a 5yo who is just getting into board games and Uno and the like. Would he be able to play this game in easy mode with some coaching you think? Also when playing local multiplayer can you hot swap 1-2 remotes around to play?
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Easy mode is just a simple Monopoly clone. Buy property to make cash and go to the bank when you reach the quota. There is no buying of stocks in easy mode. Buying property and getting promoted is the only things to worry about. I'd honestly try Monopoly first since that's cheaper. As for 1 controller play, I'm not sure on that but would be surprised if it didn't support it.
Well the game would be for me as well... I'd just like to know that I'd be able to play it with my son because I know he would want to play if I bought it.
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Also wow, a pure stock win. That's ridiculous.
yah it kinda sucks cause I had this gamewinning region set up. 9K on all of em
(this was on the second map of the DQ campaign, the rotating region.
Playing more rounds with friends earlier yeah the game has a bad tendency to favor one player over the others, but at least it's sometimes reasonable about it. Like it'll favor one person, but second place can be pretty close. The computer though? You don't stand a chance beating them. How can you possibly win when they always roll over your shops?
"Wow the Starcraft board game looks pretty ballin' but they should make a video g--....oh."
Of course you'd need a strict punishment system for rage quitters.
whoa... matches last 3 hours? That might be a little too much like Monopoly for me.
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Protip: Never go to the sectioned off part of Yoshi's Island. It is a horrible place that you may never escape from as our friend blaze learned.
I suck though!
That is all.
Also something lame I have learned: You can't have matches without 4 people. How lame. For every human spot not filled it has to have a computer in its place.
Everyone needs to hurry up and get online so we can play.
I would totally buy a computer version of the Starcraft board game. It'd get more play than my copy of Starcraft 2, at least.
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Also you should probably mention that for some asinine reason you can't play as Mario/Dragon Quest characters online, so you'll have to settle for raiding the Check Mii Out channel and screaming "Waluigi Number One!!!" over Xbox live instead.
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The win condition seems poorly designed, but I am a board game nerd. So flaws from games like Monopoly bug me.
The problem with this is that the game can allow for large fluctuations with net worth. Without any other limit on game length, it's very to tell your friends a game of this will take X amount of time.
I did three games in three hours tonight.
I have this but it's going under the Christmas tree. I'm waffling on returning it now though based on game session length and I don't know if it would be a real hit as a family game in my house.
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2. The AI will always go for lower cost buildings on their turn if they absolutely must pay somebody. However this is bad, because even if the person they'll pay is in first they don't give a shit. If it's less they go for it. This is why winning against the computer is so hard, because a human would rather give more cash to the guy in last than help the person in first. For this reason you should not upgrade your properties right away. You of course want to wait until you have stock, but even then play it by ear. It's better for you if you have sucky stuff in the middle of expanded enemy districts because if your stuff is on a split path they'll go the other way if you're too much. Even if it puts them one space from the bank and they have all the suits.
3. This is the big stock one that I took a risk in confirming but I was pretty sure on how it worked. If you expand a building and it puts you into debt you can sell stock. This is obvious and one of the best ways to expand, as your stock will probably rise more than it'll drop and you'll make money. But what happens if you expand and that expansion causes your net worth to go over the quota? Won't it drop if you sell stock to cover the costs? Yes it will. If you only sell part of it. While other actions that affect stock sometimes take until the turn is over to kick in, such as buying stock at the bank to raise its value, expanding has an immediate effect. So does selling stock right afterward. If you sell all your stock in the area you just expanded that put you in the red in the first place, you will have absolutely no consequence except that you're out of stock for that place. But since you sold all your stock you won't be affected when the price immediately plummets afterward. So you can gain 4000 net worth, get the quota, be 2000 in debt, sell all your stock, and then walk away with a fat wad of cash as well as hurt everybody else that was invested in your area because you don't give a shit about it anymore. If you do this while you're, say, one space away from the bank then you're homefree.
I'm sure this stuff is pretty basic, but it can be hard to think clearly when you're fighting the computer because they're so ridiculous at times that you panic. In my run where I finally came in first on the Observatory the Slime almost won. Stella actually came in last. It's like the letters to signify AI don't mean anything. It's all about their traits.
Edit: Oh, one more thing that's easy to gloss over in the manual: There's no auctions in online matches. If you sell a shop it just goes to the bank. So if you're selling a property that would give someone else control of the district they'll need to get over to it first.
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But I think you're right in that the mix of characters is weird. One set are extremely popular and instantly recognizable, the other are interesting in their own right, but RPGs are much more niche outside of Japan, and at least in North America, we aren't constantly bombarded with their imagery in arcades, commercials, or turn Dragon Quest release dates into national holidays.
The person with the highest net worth at the time someone bankrupts.
Also, ploperty value.
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