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Burning bridges and taking names

So i posted a while back about attempting to become a consultant for the company i'm leaving. they didn't take me up on the offer, no biggie. However, i'm currently trying to type up procedures on what i do, because i am a good guy. I'm trying to train folks on what i do, and i have to track them down and force them to learn the shit. I've got 2 days left (including today), and it seems to me like they are going to be screwed when i leave because nobody wants/is willing to learn this stuff.

So my question is, where do my responsibilities stop? Should i just keep writing the procedures, and if someone wants to learn something, let them come to me? I'm willing to answer questions after i'm gone as well, but i don't think i should be expected to walk anybody through anything once i'm no longer an employee.

Also, my boss left yesterday for the holiday, wont be back until after i am gone, and didn't even say bye/good luck/anything, i'm guessing he is butthurt by my leaving (I gave almost a month's notice, so i didn't bail or anything) but his behavior doesn't exactly make me want to go out of my way.

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  • SheepSheep Registered User, __BANNED USERS
    Two days left?

    Once you leave, stop working for them.

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  • DerrickDerrick Registered User regular
    I'm actually putting in my 2 weeks notice today.

    The way I see it is that my responsibilities are officially over after the 2 week deadline. Because I like the next guy up the rung (I'm in management myself), I'm willing to come in and train after the 2 week deadline if I'm compensated for it, and if I'm actually training my replacement. I'm not going to come in to cover for the company not hiring to fill my position.

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    The day they stop paying you, stop doing work for them.

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  • ChanusChanus Registered User regular
    If they aren't paying you, you don't owe them any of your time.

    It's a nice thing to do to write up the procedures, but if people can't be arsed to actually be trained by you, it's their problem once you're gone, not yours.

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  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    So i should stay the course, and be done when i walk out the door? I can do that.

    I'm amazed that people are not more concerned about covering the stuff i do. I've made it WAY easier than it used to be, but these people gave me a blank look when i told them they needed to refresh their browser to get to the files we just uploaded to sharepoint from a Virtual Machine. "how do i do that" was the response. Facepalm was mine.

  • bowenbowen Registered User regular
    If there's anything I have learned it's that there is always someone who will take up your mantle when you leave, although may not in the process of you leaving. They will be fine without you, no matter how much ire you throw their way.

    I'd stop caring as soon as your last shift ends.

    Oh yeah, don't stay late either.

  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    I guess i'm just a worrier, that's why my friends call me whiskers.

  • bowenbowen Registered User regular
    Yeah don't. They obviously don't give shits about you so!

  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    you have a point there!

  • bowenbowen Registered User regular
    So much less stress once you don't care.

    Feel free to come up with a snarky response if they ask why you're not spending your last day + time to train someone when you leave when your shift ends. I'm fairly certain it'll happen when they scramble and find out the person you're training doesn't give a shit and they force him to shadow you.

  • JasconiusJasconius bird internet Saint Petersburg RussiaRegistered User regular
    You have no obligations to them after your last day of work.

    If they can't get anyone else to actually give a fuck and try and learn from you, that is their failing, and you are not responsible.

    Do your best to do what you can move on.

  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    My snarky response will be a me-shaped cloud, as i disappear at 5pm tomorrow. Probably earlier since this place is a ghost town right now.

    Cool, i was worried that i should be making more of an effort to teach people what to do. But i agree, they have to deal with it going forward, so they need to take the initiative.

    Thanks everybody!

  • DeebaserDeebaser Way out in the water See it swimmin'?Registered User regular
    bowen wrote:
    If there's anything I have learned it's that there is always someone who will take up your mantle when you leave, although may not in the process of you leaving. They will be fine without you, no matter how much ire you throw their way.

    ^ this. They'll cobble together a new process when you're gone. It may not be optimal, but they are no longer paying you to give a shit.

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  • bowenbowen Registered User regular
    As much as we all wish otherwise. I'm still surprised my former boss was able to hobble along with 0 workers but himself and his niece.

  • MentalExerciseMentalExercise Indefenestrable Registered User regular
    If your employer has been bad to you, you have a professional obligation to do good work anyway.

    If your employer has been good to you, you have a personal and professional obligation to do your best by them.

    No matter how your employer has been to you, it sounds like you've been both professional and considerate.

    As such, when you're done with your last day, you're done working for them. You've met all obligations and been coniderate to boot.

    If they call with a question, answer it amicably. If it seems like it'll be a more than six minute conversation or that there will be multiple of them, they owe you compensation for taking your personal time with something you offered to get done on work time. If they want you to come back to do training that's ok, again as long as you're compensated.

    None of that is malicious, it's asking that the same professionalism that you've offered to them be shown to you. Or at least some part of it.

    Again, good job being professional.

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  • KealohaKealoha Registered User regular
    I agree with the above posts, and also have a suggestion: If both you and your boss feel that your replacement/the people you leave behind will be helpless without procedures, ask him if he'll pay you per procedure once you've left work. Make sure that you're no longer under contract (so that you can't be expected to offer more time before leaving completely), but it's a good, easy way to make more money while your boss has the peace of mind of your replacement being well aware of his/her responsibilities.

    I'm not sure how common this practice is, or if maybe my boss was particularly panicked when I left my job, but it was a nice chunk of money for me while transitioning jobs. Plus, I've heard from my boss that they saved his ass. So, that's an option.

    If your boss is a dick and you don't need the extra work, though, don't bother, and shut it out of your mind.

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  • LaemkralLaemkral Captain Punch King Registered User
    I'm agreeing with what's been said that you've been a true professional and have done your duty. There eventually comes a point where you shouldn't be asked to sacrifice anymore (speaking as the office miracle worker, I'm speaking from experience). Eventually it's just not your lane to care or do the work and it's someone else's ass for not doing their job. You have to be prepared to allow others to fail, because that is the only way to hold them accountable for their actions or lack thereof.

    You've created the proper environment for a replacement to take over, it is on your boss to ensure that someone fills those shoes. I leave my current job in February and the day I leave is the day I stop answering phones or working for that organization. I suggest you do the same.

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Once you're gone, you're gone. However, if they contact you later about it, just state you'd be happy to discuss assisting on a consulting basis. That's it.

  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    Yeah, i haven't shut the door on the consulting thing, as it stands, i'll just bail when my time comes, and see what happens. Thanks for all the advice!

  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    I'm agreeing with everyone for the Umpteenth time, you've covered your due diligence.

    I would suggest, that if they do come back to you requesting more information, whatever consulting fee you negotiate should be more than the original offer that they declined.

    Additionally, have very clear terms in regards to payment. I've had consulting "jobs" where I continued to consult without receiving payment for previous work, I even had to refuse to assist them once, until I had a Certified cheque in hand, which luckily worked because they were calling me regarding of a business-halting issue.

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  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    Oh we didn't even get to talking about money. I mentioned it as something i'd be willing to do, and that was the last i heard of it. I think someone mentioned like 3x your hourly rate as a salaried employee in a previous thread? i'm probably going with a number around that if they call me.

  • bowenbowen Registered User regular
    Easily, is that what you offered them the first time? Because if they declined that and they do call you, you should essentially 1.5x-2x that figure.

  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    Just got an email from my boss asking me to write up procedures that are a) already written up in the guides for the software (which are pretty not bad tbh), and b) about 3 steps long, not to mention i offered to show him how to do it the other day before he got the fuck outta dodge without saying a word. Yeah... i'll get right on that bossman...

    I never got the chance to make an $$ offer, but i think i'll be starting with the 6x my hourly rate figure just as a fuck you, if they ever call. (which i honestly doubt) I'm getting more and more convinced i made the right choice leaving this place...

  • RuckusRuckus Registered User regular
    That's what I did, left a $20/hr position, now my contract rate is $120/hr with a 2 hour minimum. It's also partially supposed to be a disincentive towards contracting me, because I do have other stuff to do.

    Raneados wrote: »
    so what SPECIFICALLY is the problem with my hole?
  • TheOrangeTheOrange Registered User regular
    The only thing I'll miss from work are the business cards. They're so sharp, I'm convinced I could use them for self defense in a pinch.

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