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A girl in need of Saving[first Chapter of a story]

nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
Draft One was a whole different thing and I choose to begin earlier in the story based on suggestions from the first few comments.

Chapter One 2nd darft

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Chapter One Outline
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  • MagellMagell Registered User regular
    The biggest problem with this story is 'she.' It's an 800 word story where 'she' shows up more than 50 times. It's 1/16th of your words. That's not good.

    Secondly everything is so vague in what we are shown and it makes it hard for the reader to connect with anything. The horse is the only thing you name and you should be naming everybody unless there is a reason to hide the names, and I don't see one in what you've given us so far. Also you have some words that seem to be randomly capitalized. At least I can't find a reason that "oppresive," "obsidian," or "tower" should be capitalized.

    You throw the reader into the story in media res but you do it too late so everything that makes the scene exciting already happened. Especially since when you have 'she' contemplating all the crimes she committed it makes her unsympathetic. While she may be in the right we don't know that and you're not really telling us either. If you want to start in the action it has to be at the beginning of the escape where she kills people.
    She left the city as the sun split the sky and earth with the start of day.

    This line reads weird as I assume the sun is splitting sky and earth in the sense that it is separating them, but it would fit better to say "She left the city as the sun broke the horizon and provided the first light of the day."

    There is lots of editing that can be done in this piece to tighten up the writing, but it also needs to be longer for a first chapter and needs to give a hook that interests the reader in the main character.

  • ElJeffeElJeffe Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    I generally agree with Magell, though I'll (slightly) disagree that you can start post-escape if it's true both that what happened is a mystery for relevant reasons (and by "relevant" I don't just mean "mysteries are mysterious!"), and that something interesting and exciting is happening right away. I don't know if the first is true, though I suspect not. The second definitely isn't - she rides her horse for a long time and then the horse dies and then she gets delirious and passes out. While these are fine plot points, they are lousy hooks, and what you need at the start of a story is a good hook.

    What Magell says about starting with the escape? It's good advice and I would probably go with it. I only brought this up because it's technically possible that there are good reasons to be vague and mysterious.

    As to the "she" business, yeah. There are some brilliant writers out there who have the stylistic chops to pull off not giving us any names in the first 500 words and make it work. As far as I know, none of them are posting stories to TWB, and that includes you. Give us a name. If her real name is something secret for some reason, you still need to give us something to call her. If she doesn't know her name, tell us that and call her "the girl" and be done with it, but you're being too coy about it.

    Riley: "You're a marsupial!"
    Maddie: "I am not!"
    Riley: "You're a marsupial!"
    Maddie: "I am a placental mammal!"
  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Thank you both for responding .

    I was sort of aping the beginning of Stephen Kings "Gunslinger" with the whole not naming anything business. I guess it doesn't work well. I'll try again with the names added and I'll try and use "She" or the characters name left. I'll post a synopsis in a bit about what I want to do with this story because I'm not sure where to start. The next chapter was going to be an "interrogation" between her and her rescuers where her past would be discussed.

    The thing is I feel worried about exposition. The setting is Western with fantasy elements and I don't wanna pommel the reader with exposition in the first chapter. I'm not really sure how to get around that.

    EDIT:Oh and sorry about the random caps. I have a tendency to capitalize important words. I don't think about it. It just happens and sometimes I don't catch it.

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  • ElJeffeElJeffe Super Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    The opening to The Gunslinger works because "The gunslinger" counts as a name for these purposes. We just need a noun to wrap around this person.

    As far as worrying about exposition, that's another good reason to start in the midst of one of your interesting scenes rather than after it. Instead of telling us about what happened via exposition, you're just showing us what's happening in real time. Flashbacks also work as a narrative device, you just need to be careful not to use them in confusing or annoying manners.

    I will say that if this is a book-length work, and if you're going to be telling us all about the crimes she just committed in the first ten pages anyway, why not just open with her committing at least some of them? I'm not sure exactly what the timeline is supposed to be, but if it's like Commits Crime -> Decides She Needs To Escape -> Escapes, just relate all that. It might also help establish sympathy for this alleged criminal by showing her motives.

    It seems like you have an interesting story to tell, and just need to figure out a way to tell it in an accessible manner. I would recommend you go with straightforward over fancy and nonlinear unless there's a compelling reason for the latter. Otherwise you wind up being JJ Abrams and every goddamn episode of your show starts with some misleading action scene and then THIRTY-SEVEN HOURS EARLIER... and then I will hate your stupid face and yell about you to my wife.

    Riley: "You're a marsupial!"
    Maddie: "I am not!"
    Riley: "You're a marsupial!"
    Maddie: "I am a placental mammal!"
  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Ok I tried to follow the advice and did a new first chapter set before where I started. Its ending up pretty long so I picked a place to stop and am posting that for now. Having reread it before posting it I can already tell I'll need to rework it a little but I want to get some input from what I've got.
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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    I posted my complete chapter 1 in the OP. Already I can tell it will need a lot of revision. I'm trying the convey that the Main character is fighting against a strong brainwash but it feels just fragmented and confusing. I don't think I really "earned" her turn from being unwilling to fire on a hunter and then doing so.

    I really want to improve a also complete this story. Its been in my head for awhile and they think it will be worth reading once I get it right. Thing is I'm not really sure how to get there you know?

  • ComradebotComradebot Lord of Dinosaurs Hunts Vegas, TXRegistered User regular
    I'm not a fan of the pacing. You are. Constantly. Stopping for. All the punctuation. Not saying you should be William Faulkner and have a run-on that lasts for a couple pages, but I find it makes it hard to get a good flow going as a reader.

  • MagellMagell Registered User regular
    After the first two paragraphs your writing is way too stattaco, and you've got some tense shifting going on. I stopped after the fourth paragraph. There are so many spelling errors going on and the tense shifting is brutal. All of the spelling errors are pretty basic. A lot of what is going on is an info dump as well. Relate the description of the bar to Alexia entering it.

    roudy - rowdy
    releave - relieve
    mated - matted

    And there are several others as well.

    Also you need to put spaces in between the paragraphs so I can read it. You definitely need to do a full rewrite because this is worse than the first version.

  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Sorry about all the spelling Errors. I'll do my best to fix that tomorrow as well as the tense shifting. Then I'll work on making it more natural and taking out the info dumps.

    Thank you guys so much.

  • GotrM15GotrM15 Registered User
    This has some momentum, and it's clear that you're stretching your limbs a bit and that's great.

    You said you didn't want to name too many things all in the first chapter, and I think this's also great -- though certainly not the only approach, I tend to like starting stories off painting some of the broadest pictures possible. But you do name things, a lot of things: Lurren's tower, Hunters, the Master, her meditation skills, and the 3rd law, all in the first paragraph. And while these things might have meaning to you, and they might be important to the story, for your readers, you're asking us to trust you: if we memorize these (to us) meaningless names and ideas specific to this world, you will fill in the lines for us later and explain why we should have cared in the first place.

    This is not a good way to start off your story: you're trying to get me interested, and throwing names to try and paint the picture of this cool world in a few seconds isn't going to do it. It's a hard balance between saying too much and too little, but I always say "detail detail detail": instead of telling us about Hunters, tell us about the women and men walking into the bar -- what they're wearing, how they walk, if the atmosphere of the bar changes, for examples. If you can tell us, "These guys are important and you should be paying attention to who they are and what they mean in this world," without even giving them a name, then when I finally get a name, I won't have to worry about whether it's an important thing to remember or not.

    If you've already got a name for yourself, and if I've learned to trust you as an author, I'm willing to do a lot of work for you -- and while this is often times not the way to go, you can do some cool things with it. But you can't expect the average reader to work very hard at all. Your world can't provide the engagement: your narrative has to do that first.

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    Gotr of Vatik
    Scholar by day, rogue by night.
    "If all I ever got was one shot, I'd still never blame fate."
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