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TychoCelchuuu

Supraluminal wrote:

Yeah, I feel like we're at the saturation point with indie bundles at this point. It's a cool idea, but there's only so many of these types of games released in a given year that are actually worth playing. Competition is all well and good, but you should probably make sure your competing product/service is actually, you know, competitive to some extent.

But Zeno Clash is a really good game and I've heard good things about all the rest, I think.

Slimcea

Hoard's pretty decent for a quick timewaster, just that it needs some serious optimizations.

I think Indie Royale does tend to suffer in quality because (a) they have a known schedule. That means possibly compromising on quality of games just to make the schedule (b) some games aren't on Steam. Which makes them pretty much non-existent as far as most people here are concerned.

Maddoc

I thought Hoard was pretty poor, myself, but Lume looks pretty neat.

SmokeStacks

Pariel wrote:

It was actually invented by the Spanish Inquisition to convince hardcore gamers to tell them their secrets.

My favorite part about Microsoft's FAQ for GFWL is basically them subtly saying "Steam sucks, we're so much better" over and over again.

Which is funny when you stop and ask yourself which service out of the two is the one that brings people super cheap games whenever they want them, and which service shits the bed on a regular basis and eats people's saves and is completely unnecessary.

Ashe

Just need to highlight the classiness of @Iolo (classiness we're all already aware of anyway!) - not only did I receive a code for Civ V out of the blue this morning, but after realising the code was US-only, Iolo gifts me with Costume Quest instead.

Thanks muchly. Amazing generosity. Now where's that crab?

Maddoc

SmokeStacks wrote:

Pariel wrote:

It was actually invented by the Spanish Inquisition to convince hardcore gamers to tell them their secrets.

My favorite part about Microsoft's FAQ for GFWL is basically them subtly saying "Steam sucks, we're so much better" over and over again.

Which is funny when you stop and ask yourself which service out of the two is the one that brings people super cheap games whenever they want them, and which service shits the bed on a regular basis and eats people's saves and is completely unnecessary.

What's really great is that, even though games are still being released that utilize GFWL, Microsoft practically does not even support it at all.

EDIT: Here's their awesome GFWL support page
http://support.xbox.com/en-US/games/pc-games/game-support

Supraluminal

TychoCelchuuu wrote:

Supraluminal wrote:

Yeah, I feel like we're at the saturation point with indie bundles at this point. It's a cool idea, but there's only so many of these types of games released in a given year that are actually worth playing. Competition is all well and good, but you should probably make sure your competing product/service is actually, you know, competitive to some extent.

But Zeno Clash is a really good game and I've heard good things about all the rest, I think.

I wasn't necessarily talking about a specific bundle, just in general. Even the Humble Bundle has been a little uneven in my opinion, and I've only gone in for one of the Indie Royale bundles (the first one, of which Gemini Rue was the only game I've ended up with much of a favorable impression of). I'd never even heard of the Indie Gala thing until people started posting about it in this thread a few days ago.

As I said, I'm not opposed to the idea of more of these kinds of things cropping up, I just haven't been impressed with how they've been executed so far. But maybe that's just me; it is, of course, largely a matter of personal taste as to whether or not you're getting a lot of value out of all these things.

pablo_price

the daily is the jedi knight collection for $5.
this pleases me greatly as it's the one thing I missed from the winter sale.

Taramoor

Ooh... 75% off Jedi Knight Collection....

Figgy

Stronghold 3 looks like the kind of game I played with my imagination and a box of generic, musty LEGO as a child.

Is it any good?

Entriech

Well, I mean, Indie Royale's basically just a cat's paw for Desura, isn't it? Isn't it strangely coincidental that every royale bundle has 75% of the games register on Steam/DL direct/Desura, but the big 'exclusive' is always only available from Desura?

Figgy

Entriech wrote:

Well, I mean, Indie Royale's basically just a cat's paw for Desura, isn't it? Isn't it strangely coincidental that every royale bundle has 75% of the games register on Steam/DL direct/Desura, but the big 'exclusive' is always only available from Desura?

Perhaps, but I would include the word big in quotes as well. Because, really, the game's they always hype up are.... underwhelming.

That said, I've rarely been disappointed with a Humble bundle. I'm mainly not interested in the Indie Royale faire.

Edit: Lots of double posting stuff going on the past couple days.

Entriech

Figgy wrote:

Stronghold 3 looks like the kind of game I played with my imagination and a box of generic, musty LEGO as a child.

Is it any good?

It is not any good. Play the originals, those are good.

This isn't just a rose-coloured glasses nostalgia jackass talking, the new one is really bad.

Drake

Entriech wrote:

Well, I mean, Indie Royale's basically just a cat's paw for Desura, isn't it? Isn't it strangely coincidental that every royale bundle has 75% of the games register on Steam/DL direct/Desura, but the big 'exclusive' is always only available from Desura?

If that's the case that's fine with me. Desura is a fine service and could use the promotion in my opinion. If you want a deeper offering of indy games and Alpha Boosting in a nice, unobtrusive Steam-like client then you should check out Desura. I've bought a few things through them now and have really enjoyed some quirky games that would probably never show up on Steam. Like the awesome Sonar.

bloodatonement

The DF/JK collection at $5 is always so temping, but I have the disks for all the game literally right at my feet.

Tef

SmokeStacks wrote:

Pariel wrote:

It was actually invented by the Spanish Inquisition to convince hardcore gamers to tell them their secrets.

My favorite part about Microsoft's FAQ for GFWL is basically them subtly saying "Steam sucks, we're so much better" over and over again.

Which is funny when you stop and ask yourself which service out of the two is the one that brings people super cheap games whenever they want them, and which service shits the bed on a regular basis and eats people's saves and is completely unnecessary.

Huh. Would you look at that. I finally got mad at the Internet. Thanks, GFWL!

SmokeStacks

bloodatonement wrote:

The DF/JK collection at $5 is always so temping, but I have the disks for all the game literally right at my feet.

Sometimes it's easier just to get them on Steam.

Spoiler:

rikdaly

bloodatonement wrote:

The DF/JK collection at $5 is always so temping, but I have the disks for all the game literally right at my feet.

It's a great price to never have to look for the discs again /enabler

Edit: damn, beat in the best way

DoctorArch

Discs? Pshaw!

heenato

What are these "Discs" of which you speak? Are they those strange, arcane, frisbie-like devices that I use to play Oblivion and RCT3?

Drake

Man. Microsoft must have some awesome lawyers to get away with lying like that in their GFWL FAQ.

Elvenshae

Figgy wrote:

Stronghold 3 looks like the kind of game I played with my imagination and a box of generic, musty LEGO as a child.

Is it any good?

Apparently, no.

Get 1 or 2 off GOG, instead.

Frem

Taramoor wrote:

AnteCantelope wrote:

I just tried EDGE out, either it's terrible or I just don't get it at all. It seemed trivially easy, except where the controls fucked up and I went the wrong direction and died.

Either way, that one's off my backlog and I don't recommend it at all.

It is quite easy.

At first.

That changes.

I have given it a strong recommendation in the past and I stand by it.

Seconded. Once the control scheme is burned into your brain (about 30 minutes playtime) you won't have issues. Also, it lets you tap a directional key and see how the cube will move without actually moving, which is nice when you're starting out.

But yes. As you go, the levels become progressively more and more unstable, with lots of things moving around and shifting under your feet as you progress. I was just rolling along, and suddenly I'm being transported on a X-Wing made out of cubes. And the little hill I'm blocking around on is reorganizing itself as I move, inching closer to the other side of a chasm as I bop switches on it. It can be a rather clever game.

I haven't played Extended, but there's a dark cube that pops up there and does Knuckles impersonations, trying to kill you as you work through assorted levels. That's also cool.

All this being said, I hate the Edge mechanic the game is named after. Fortunately, you don't have to be good at it to get through the first set of levels.

cardboard delusions

OMG, must seriously consider buying today's deal. Hmmm, what to do.

Lord_Snot

@Busfahrer continues to be the classiest kraut around. He just gifted me Hoard.

Thanks again!

heenato

The classy gent Bushfahrer just gifted me Dark forces 2. Don't know TOO much about it, but I like me some lightsabers...as long as it's actually interesting.

Will play it once I can wrestle myself away from skyrim for more than sleeping and eating.

cardboard delusions

I had the games on discs years ago, just long since knowing where they are. Such good MP.

bloodatonement

@smokestacks i am offended.

Spoiler:

:rotate:

Drake wrote:

Man. Microsoft must have some awesome lawyers to get away with lying like that in their GFWL FAQ.

How so?

Handgimp

busfahrer

Here's an update on the hacking incident on Steam some months(?) ago:

http://store.steampowered.com/news/7323/?snr=1_550_552

heenato

Handgimp wrote:

You know, I don't think that avatar is quite enough anymore. It should be wearing two monocles, and have top hats stacked on each other.

busfahrer

heenato wrote:

Handgimp wrote:

You know, I don't think that avatar is quite enough anymore. It should be wearing two monocles, and have top hats stacked on each other.

I agree.

@Handgimp needs this

striderjg

first time I pre-paid for the IR. Probably won't do that again:) Still 4 bucks for 2 titles I have never seen (lume and soulcaster) and some dlc I don't have. Probably actually worth 4 without problems but I think I probably would have passed.

Drake

bloodatonement wrote:

@smokestacks i am offended.

Spoiler:

:rotate:

Drake wrote:

Man. Microsoft must have some awesome lawyers to get away with lying like that in their GFWL FAQ.

How so?

For one thing Steamworks offers persistent leaderboards and in-game party support. WH40K Space Marine offers both. I have MANY games on Steam that offer persistent leaderboards through Steamworks. That shit has been going on forever.

There is also this jewel.

How does Games for Windows — LIVE's DRM compare to Steam's? wrote:

Spoiler:

The biggest differentiator between Games for Windows — LIVE and Steam is access control. Steam controls access to games you download from Steam by requiring an online verification to play those games. If your Steam account is stolen or banned, access to your entire collection of games downloaded from Steam could be lost.

On the other hand, Games for Windows — LIVE does not control access to your collection through online verification. You can install your games anywhere and play your games offline without online verification. You can also launch games directly without running the Games for Windows — LIVE client. The only time you have to connect to Games for Windows — LIVE is when you want to receive LIVE services. Then Games for Windows — LIVE does verify that your account is authorized to play the game on Games for Windows — LIVE.

Games for Windows – LIVE offers publishers several tools to help secure their games. Microsoft also supports many security features the publishers commonly decide to implement. Choices of DRM and how to implement are purely made by the publisher and developer, and Games for Windows — LIVE simply respects those choices. This may include installation limits, if the publisher feels this is an important part of their game.

Maybe that's not an outright lie per se, but it is pretty damn dishonest. How is not being able to save your game unless you are logged in to a profile not a form of DRM? And granted, while Steam's Offline support is wonky as hell, it's there and it allows you to play your games offline (when it works). Steam also allows you to install your games anywhere, unless so restricted by the publishers wishes, usually by using a third party DRM. You can install Steam on as many computers as you like. Disingenuous is the word that comes to mind.

Handgimp

heenato wrote:

Handgimp wrote:

You know, I don't think that avatar is quite enough anymore. It should be wearing two monocles, and have top hats stacked on each other.

Well I spent three hours stumbling around downtown San Diego drunk off my ass, trying to find a monocle and cane, but that's the best I could do. Sorry.

SkutSkut

I like Indie Royales system better than humble bundle, end up with less games I don't like, can just give the steam keys away to someone that'll have some fun with them. The actual bundles have been kinda meh tho. But eh, 4 bucks for Zeno Clash and some games to give out when it's over to you guys, as well as a nice album for preordering.

Also let's not forget that Humble Bundle 2 wasn't that good, fucking Cortex Command being awesome and abandonware...

bloodatonement

Tef wrote:

Wait til it deletes your save games for good measure.

Apparently the cause of B:AC losing saves is it can't save while giving you an achievement. So if you exit right after gettean achievement you lose your save. However if, after getting an achievement, you keep playing up to another save point, it will write a usable save file.

POKÉMON MASTER WT SHERMAN

POKÉMON MASTER WT SHERMAN wrote:

MEAT MEAT MEEEAAAAT

reposting now that it's actually open for entries! CUT THAT MEAT

cardboard delusions

Playing lotto today, so come monday if all my friends see games in your steam account you know why.

Elvenshae

heenato wrote:

The classy gent Bushfahrer just gifted me Dark forces 2. Don't know TOO much about it, but I like me some lightsabers...as long as it's actually interesting.

DF2: JK is so, so, so good. One of my favorite games of all times.

Seriously good.

I'd say it's aged pretty well, besides - much better than Dark Forces 1 has.

Just remember to explore each and every level to the fullest extent possible. You'll want to get the "All Secrets Found" bonus force points for every level.