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Huh? I was just playing SC2 in offline mode this weekend, because I was out of town away from good internet. Worked okay for me?
...why do they have to be white.
Because of racism.
To be fair, I don't think he believes the servers definitely will go down permanently. He's just pointing out that Ubisoft can't even set a timeframe for how long they'll be down, and could take them down again for God knows how long at any time, taking away people's ability to play games they legally purchased. So for all we know (considering how trustworthy Ubisoft is and how much they've shown they care about PC gamers), they may as well be dead.
I personally don't believe they would permanently take down the servers for a game as relatively new as Heroes 6 already, but I wouldn't really be a bit surprised if they unceremoniously killed the servers for some older games and left people out in the cold.
Now, moving servers can take a day or two. It's bad, yes, but to react like this could last forever is silly. If the company outright said "Servers going down forever," or current game support was being taken away, then yes, continue with the speech about things.
I've said it before and I'll say it again; if internet connectivity was at a point where it's equally available and stable for everywhere in the country, this method of DRM wouldn't be bad at all. It's not, so Ubisoft pursuing it is dumb as fuck. No ifs, ands, ors about it. But as it stands, you still own your games, and you'll still be able to use them after this hardware move. But they certainly haven't robbed you.
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People throwing around the word "indefinite" doesn't help the misunderstanding of the situation, because that word, to a lot of people, does mean "forever." Even though it technically is accurate to use in this case, it's super misleading and has heavy negative connotation. It's drum-thumping.
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I never used the word indefinite.
(hope that's not MY racism you're talking about? because no)
I think it was supposed to be....ironic? He's racist and thinks minorities stole his chair but it's just a bunch of white people sitting in a room. So he's wrong, racist, and stupid. The Trifecta, as I like to call it.
I didn't think it was that complicated. Also, I said it was a bad analogy.
Did I say you, specifically, did?
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Not quite: A producer for one of the upcoming Ghost Recon games (either Future Soldier or Online) said that 95% of their customers will pirate the game. So yes, this is literally what they think of you: you're pretty much all dirty fucking pirates.
If you're game on the PC, then really you should just give Ubisoft a big middle finger and tell them to fuck off. They don't even have respect for you, so I don't see why you should return it.
Well since you quoted my post forgive me for being a little confused when you declaimed on things I didn't say.
Yeah, Ubisoft has been the lord of shit mountain for a long time. I can't imagine anyone buys their games on PC anymore though, so I doubt anyone will be affected by this.
I'll agree that, in the presence of a universally accessible and stable internet connection, that this particular brand of DRM is less odious than others. I would prefer this method over rootkits, process blacklisting, and hardware profiling for limited installs. However, that's like saying I prefer getting smacked in the arm over getting hit in the junk. One is obviously worse than the other, but both are something I'd like to avoid.
Server-authentication DRM does minimal harm to the client computer, so I prefer it over more invasive installations. But the fact that server activity costs money to run means that at some point down the line, these authentication servers are going to go away. Then what do we do? Do we hope that the companies release some kind of patch? More imperative than that, I just don't like the idea that someone I've never even met can potentially shut off my ability to play the game (that I paid for) for whatever reason. And let's not forget that authentication errors do happen, even in the presence of stable internet connections. If an auth server flips a derp, you're out of luck.
This type of DRM is sadly going to be the future of gaming, I fear. Not as it exists today, but incorporated into a system more like OnLive. It's pretty hard to pirate a game when you're not even running it on your machine. Of course, it's also hard to mod the game, or retain ownership, too. But publishers are going to eat that stuff up, provided they can find a way to monetize it.
Wait.
Hold the fucking phone.
People still buy Ubisoft games? I've been boycotting that company ever since they first rolled out their pants on head retarded DRM and they've never failed to make me incredibly happy about that decision. I'm surprised anybody still willingly gives Ubishit money.
And by boycott I don't mean hurr hurr I actually pirate. I mean I don't play their games, period. Besides, it's not like they've put out anything worth giving a shit about in years.
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Eh, I can live without it. From what I gather the story is fantastic but the gameplay is herp derp piss easy simple.
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I agree. Assassin's Creed II is probably one of the best games ever made. Splinter Cell: Conviction was ok[/], that's on PC right?
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Yeah, it's generally very easy but the mechanics and combat are just so much fun. With very few exceptions, games aren't hard these days anyway.
Really? All those cutscenes sucked, and the game took bloody ages to get fun (took like two hours).
This really sucks for honest consumers. It would suck for me too If I actually played the steam games I buy.
If we're referring to the original AC, it was lackluster in a lot of ways, yeah. But the others... nope "all those cutscenes" didn't suck. They're universally accepted as being great games. But, from my experience, if someone replies to you just to say your opinion is wrong and they are right, they probably were raised to think they were very special or something, as there's nothing really to say there except a back and forth "yes they are! no they aren't!" They may have shitty DRM, but it doesn't magically make one great game bad.
This. It wasn't my intention to have the facts misinterpreted. Ubisoft games ARE dead starting Tuesday for an indefinite amount of time. I have no confidence in Ubisoft promptly fixing the issue of purchased games not being accessible , especially with them remaining mum about it and their history of public disdain for the platform.
As for the Pitchfork Brigade that I'm apparently trying to mislead people into joining: you don't think that "merely" indefinite downtime is worthy of outrage? I don't have to exaggerate the facts to be upset about this. This is, to my knowledge, unprecedented. An actual example of what we fear about authentication DRM coming true.
Feel free to not consider this news to be huge, as I do. That's your right. And believe me, I hope everything's fine on Wednesday. But I sure as hell won't buy an Ubisoft game on PC again, because their practices have me too spooked.
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This is not a thing.
Also EVERY bit of copy protection EVER has been cracked. It's utterly useless.
Fortunately if you wait long enough they do have the sense to take the DRM out.
Unfortunately that takes quite a long time.
I did finally crack at one point and pick up Splinter Cell Conviction when it hit the $10 point in a steam sale. Also, I purchased the Rayman games on GoG, once again during a sale.
But beyond those tiny sales, I haven't purchased any other Ubi games at all since 2008 when Far Cry 2 hit.
I will probably get Far Cry 3 at launch, just because I still love Far Cry 2 so much. I hope by then they'll have found some sense, but either way it's my only Ubi purchase for the foreseeable future. I've purposely avoided many of their other large franchises, and I've never even touched an Assassin's Creed or a HAWX or whatever else they make these days.
This is actually good to show Ubisoft that there are legitimate demands (and subsequently sales) for DRM-free games.
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I know quoting yourself is a dick move, but I made this post a few months ago and it's basically the exact same post I was going to make right now anyway.
So basically, legitimate consumers get fucked for an indeterminate period of time, gamers are going to be hesitant about buying Ubisoft games (depending on how long the outage lasts) in the future, and pirates will use this outage as an excuse to go open season on pirating current and future Ubisoft games.
gg Ubisoft.
I am honestly boondoggled on how they think this makes sense. Go From Dust with all these titles and remove the goddamned thing from everything.
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a) told me the launcher could not contact ubisoft's servers, but I could go ahead and play anyway, and
b) told me while I was playing the the "connection was lost" in a little pop-up notification at the bottom that in no way affected my gameplay at all.
Though I suppose it is possible it only lost connection with their content servers and not their DRM servers..
I guess I'm supposed to be mad about the fact that my computer connects to servers at all, but I just can't muster the effort. So many gaming services are handled through outside servers at this point, I see the internet as being a ubiquitous part of the hobby. I also think that in the long term it's a positive shift for the vast majority of gamers. I know that I personally have a much larger and more social gaming community because of Steam's DRM, and I would find it difficult to justify boycotting Ubisoft while supporting Steam.
I got a buddy who does the same. He doesn't pirate every game, but most.
What is so frustrating is that we'll both get the game the same freaking day, yet he will have all the pre-order bonuses plus any day 1 DLC.
It's a point on contention between us and I try not to bring it up whenever we hang out. Kind of like how you don't talk politics with friends who are on the other side.
edit- In the insane event that online authentication servers for a game are permanently shut down and for whatever dick reason they do not remove DRM, well, not like you can't do what pirates do to play their games.
Yeah I lost my connection last night. Not sure if it ever came back up. Not a huge deal, though it does suck to get your Arc bonuses cut off. And, for whatever reason, the game decides you need to see every tutorial popup when the connection drops. Sort of annoying. Less annoying than having your souped up coal power scheme brought to its knees by a disconnection.
But yeah, for all the rabble rabble FU Ubi! stuff, I'll still keep buying their stuff, as long as "their stuff" continues to include games like the Anno series.
And re: the piracy stuff, at least with Anno, as far as I know the pirated version doesn't let you maintain and upgrade your Arc (basically like a mothership that lets you move bonuses and junk between continuous games). It's obviously not a deal breaker, but the ability to bring stuff between games is pretty cool.
I think you also miss out on some voting system and special missions or something, but I haven't touched that stuff yet. I should go see if there's an Anno thread floating around dis here forum...
I've come to realize that the trust I place in the Valve brand, much thanks to the public persona of Gabe Newell, is much higher than the trust I place in Ubisoft, which seemingly doesn't have any personality at all and adheres to a faceless bunch of shareholders, so I have no problem in boycotting Ubisoft AND Origin (similar dilemma) while still using Steam (though I have a history with them as well).