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Whitney Houston is dead.

AtomikaAtomika (citation needed)Registered User regular
edited February 2012 in Debate and/or Discourse
I find that every odd.

Full story here.


No cause of death listed. Houston was found dead in her hotel room at the Beverly Hilton. She had been in rehab several times in the last few years for drug abuse, most recently this past year, which had forced her to cancel her comeback tour.


Though she had put out few hit songs in the last decade, her music will be missed. She was 48.

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  • dbrock270dbrock270 Registered User regular
    The interview she did with ABC News back in 2002 was so pathetic. I remember watching it when it originally aired. I felt bad for her.

  • NakedZerglingNakedZergling King Penis of Fuck Mountain. Portland OregonRegistered User regular
    Seriously...why do we care?? She gave less than a shit about herself, why should we?


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  • AtomikaAtomika (citation needed)Registered User regular
    Seriously...why do we care?? She gave less than a shit about herself, why should we?

    I had no idea my dad was on this board.


    Go back to bed!

  • Fuzzy Cumulonimbus CloudFuzzy Cumulonimbus Cloud Registered User regular
    Is everyone gonna do that thing where they appropriate mourning because they were a celebrity and did drugs, so clearly they deserved dying. Can we get that out on the first page, so I can continue talking about how awesome her songs were?

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  • dbrock270dbrock270 Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Seriously...why do we care?? She gave less than a shit about herself, why should we?

    Can we appreciate her artistic accomplishments she made during her life?

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  • KageraKagera Registered User regular
    Seriously...why do we care?? She gave less than a shit about herself, why should we?

    Why did you care enough to ask why we care? How far down this rabbit hole do we go?

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  • Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    Seriously...why do we care?? She gave less than a shit about herself, why should we?

    there is no particular reason to care about her death more than anyone else's for most of us

    there is also no reason to dismiss it, or any emotional reaction to it

    since, you know, human lives are valuable and we can feel bad not only for her death but for the life that she lived and the suffering she endured

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  • Delta AssaultDelta Assault Registered User regular
    I think we can all remember this:



    RIP

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  • ElkiElki hegemon globalSuper Moderator, Moderator, ClubPA mod
    I read the thread title, and felt my heart sink.

  • AtomikaAtomika (citation needed)Registered User regular
    I was actually talking to my music-producer friend the other day about Houston, so this is all a little bit darkly like deja vu. He knew her in a very distant capacity, but even he said that he had never seen anyone so wholly taken by vice like Whitney was when she first got hooked on drugs.

    There are lots of historical examples of artists who did lots of drugs, but a lot of them continued to have productive careers even while on drugs.

    Whitney seems to really only have had two eras: Hits, and Drugs.

  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    Seriously...why do we care?? She gave less than a shit about herself, why should we?

    there is no particular reason to care about her death more than anyone else's for most of us

    there is also no reason to dismiss it, or any emotional reaction to it

    since, you know, human lives are valuable and we can feel bad not only for her death but for the life that she lived and the suffering she endured

    But she didn't cure any diseases![/hipster]

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  • AtomikaAtomika (citation needed)Registered User regular
    Apparently, Houston was out last night at a bar and was seen leaving very late and very unwell.

  • GonmunGonmun Canada eh!Registered User regular
    Man, this is rather...coincidental since I bought a copy of The Bodyguard for my wife the other day.

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  • Linespider5Linespider5 By the Abyss! Registered User regular
    This is unexpected.

    I knew she had some serious, serious problems but I'd always assumed she would continue to endure those problems until she no longer needed to, let them go, and could then get on with her life after that. I guess this was not to be.

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  • MimMim Registered User regular
    Apparently, Houston was out last night at a bar and was seen leaving very late and very unwell.

    Yes, apparently she got into a fight with some girl over Ray J (Brandy's brother).

  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    I'm struck by how little I care about this or really any celebrity death.

    She made great music, had a seemingly really shitty personal life.

    I hope she found some peace and my condolences to her friends and family.

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  • TehSpectreTehSpectre Wrath Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    That's too bad.

    :(

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  • thepotato232thepotato232 Registered User
    Saw her death on the crawl on ESPN. Their stated reason for putting it on the sports news crawl being that she sang The Star-Spangled Banner at Super Bowl Twentysomething.

    I found both of the above quite surreal.

    As self-destructive as she got, she didn't seem to take any particular joy in dragging other people down with her, like some addicts I've known. Too bad she couldn't get her shit together and live up to what she could have been.

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  • LilnoobsLilnoobs Alpha Queue Registered User regular
    Wow. I just heard on the radio she recently did some impromptu singing at some awards/tv show and was terrible. Like, happened recently. I wonder if this'll be another celebrity suicide.

  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    Anyone who doesn't think this is sad is full of crap. When a person's life descends into shit because of drugs, that alone is sad. When that person had an amazing, beautiful talent which is ruined by said drugs, that makes it more sad. Blaming people for substance abuse rather clearly hasn't helped the problem either, so you'd think we as a society would be over that by now. Obviously we aren't, and that too is sad.

  • thepotato232thepotato232 Registered User
    edited February 2012
    People can think something is sad without being particularly affected by it. I think most of us are in that corner here.

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  • HenroidHenroid Maintenance Mode Tyler, TX (where hope comes to die!)Registered User regular
    Seriously...why do we care?? She gave less than a shit about herself, why should we?

    Two posts into a celeb / notable death for this kind of post to emerge. A new record, you should be proud to have set it!

    Whitney Houston was kind of a tragic person. Really lost her way, and while I wasn't a personal fan of her singing, that's a totally shit thing to have happen. You'd think the effect of drugs on people would sink in already.

    Never followed news about her enough to gauge if she was happy as of late, or not. If not, then hey, at least it's over.

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  • Kipling217Kipling217 Registered User regular
    I am not surprised that she is dead, but I am sad.

    Part of me would have wanted her too pull out of it and make a recovery, because thats what I want every person dealing with addiction. Addiction is a disease. When people die from disease its sad.

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  • AtomikaAtomika (citation needed)Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote:
    Never followed news about her enough to gauge if she was happy as of late, or not. If not, then hey, at least it's over.

    It was hard to tell. For at least a year now, she had been really trying to get her comeback off the ground, but kept running into roadblocks, and honestly it was probably due to her addiction problems. She was invited places to sing and would forget the words to her songs, she was forced to cancel shows at the last minute, and she was still occasionally being found intoxicated and/or concealing large amounts of drugs on her person at inappropriate places.

    And now details are coming out that she was pursuing a relationship with a man almost 20 years her younger, whose birthday party is the one she was seen leaving (being asked to leave?) in poor shape the night before she died.

  • YogoYogo Registered User regular
    The only greater atrocitity than Whitney Houston dying was the horrible CNN article written about her. Seriously the information in that piece was so disjointed that it was almost harmful to read it.

    I think Whitney will be missed like we miss most people who pass away. Sadly, I doubt it will stem from the "what could have been" feeling about her music and talent as it feels like she hit her peak in 80's. Drug abuse and personal problems seemed to have been a perfect recipe for a steady descent into oblivion.

    At least she can hang out with Michael Jackson now.

  • HonkHonk Registered User regular
    Seriously...why do we care?? She gave less than a shit about herself, why should we?

    Bad form.

    Any way, I have gone through a couple old Houston songs now. Really great stuff.

  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    This is a pretty telling story from one of her old drug dealers (and now a comic), Joey Diaz.

    skip to 0:30 to avoid the dumb intro

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  • AbsalonAbsalon Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Sadly, I don't care much. I am sadder about the life that was - she should have had a better life, but I am always stunned and angered by the effort rich, successful, beloved, talented and artistic people spend on making themselves miserable. It's like many celebrities just have to fuck up and treat themselves and close ones like shit without ever stopping to just take a five-month vacation. They can fucking afford it, the ingrates.

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  • DetharinDetharin Registered User regular
    WIN.... err wait no. Don't these things come in threes? Either way here is hoping she is at peace.

    If I was kidnapped, woke up in a lab, told they were going to replace my vocal cords with those of Tony Jay, and lock me in a sound booth until the day I die I would look those bastards right in the eye and say "Alright you sons of bitches lets do this. This one is for the children."
  • wanderingwandering Registered User regular
    Detharin wrote:
    Don't these things come in threes?
    Nope.

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  • Doctor DetroitDoctor Detroit Registered User regular
    Be prepared for some serious changes to the Grammys tonight.

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  • dbrock270dbrock270 Registered User regular
    Be prepared for some serious changes to the Grammys tonight.

    Chaka Khan and Jennifer Hudson are supposed to perform a tribute to Houston.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Absalon wrote:
    Sadly, I don't care much. I am sadder about the life that was - she should have had a better life, but I am always stunned and angered by the effort rich, successful, beloved, talented and artistic people spend on making themselves miserable. It's like many celebrities just have to fuck up and treat themselves and close ones like shit without ever stopping to just take a five-month vacation. They can fucking afford it, the ingrates.

    It's not that simple. There are numerous factors to consider. There's the constant access and encouragement to do drugs and alcohol by her peers, colleagues and entourage, family squabbles, being kept in a bubble from reality that you can do no wrong, pressure from their bosses and fans to be the best. It's very tough for celebrities not to do drugs, become mentally unstable or being an asshole.

  • HenroidHenroid Maintenance Mode Tyler, TX (where hope comes to die!)Registered User regular
    I'm not sure that "oh celebrities have a harder time saying no to drugs" is a valid argument whatsoever. Maybe for people who were becoming huge in the 80's, but back then it was a goddamn colossal social trend anyway. Rich or poor, it's up to individuals to not take up drugs.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote:
    I'm not sure that "oh celebrities have a harder time saying no to drugs" is a valid argument whatsoever. Maybe for people who were becoming huge in the 80's, but back then it was a goddamn colossal social trend anyway. Rich or poor, it's up to individuals to not take up drugs.

    It was up front in the 80's. It's kept covert now. Nothing's really changed.

    You're right individuals need to take responsibility for taking drugs. I'm only saying for people in Hollywood the pressure and access make that much easier to slip and stay in a bad situation.

  • AtomikaAtomika (citation needed)Registered User regular
    Henroid wrote:
    I'm not sure that "oh celebrities have a harder time saying no to drugs" is a valid argument whatsoever. Maybe for people who were becoming huge in the 80's, but back then it was a goddamn colossal social trend anyway. Rich or poor, it's up to individuals to not take up drugs.

    I think in this particular incidence you have a celebrity that had an overly strong attraction (biological or otherwise) to drugs and a hedonistic lifestyle. Once Whitney got on drugs, they basically took over her life and she never shook them.

  • EchoEcho Per Aspera Ad Inferi Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    It's certainly a showcase for how dangerous enabling is.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Echo wrote:
    It's certainly a showcase for how dangerous enabling is.

    The sad thing is this won't be the last celebrity who dies from people unwilling to say no to them.

  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    Echo wrote:
    It's certainly a showcase for how dangerous enabling is.

    The sad thing is this won't be the last celebrity who dies from people unwilling to say no to them.

    The sad thing is that countless regular people die everyday from people unwilling to say no to them.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Echo wrote:
    It's certainly a showcase for how dangerous enabling is.

    The sad thing is this won't be the last celebrity who dies from people unwilling to say no to them.

    The sad thing is that countless regular people die everyday from people unwilling to say no to them.

    True.

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