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[Avengers] Go see it May 4th in the US! And...way earlier almost everywhere else

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  • Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote:
    There is a difference between explaining your opinions and shitting on other peoples' taste and views

    saying "I do not like Bendis' writing, I personally think he is a shit writer for these reasons" is cool

    saying "You like garbage" less so

    plus while you may try to restrict your jerkiness to other jerks, you don't do a good job of it. I mean in the Batman thread you fucking told a guy to kill himself in a volcano because he wanted Darkseid in a Superman movie.

    yeah pretty much this spex

    you don't just post your opinion and give reasons, you go out of your way to set yourself up as some arbiter of good tastes by insulting other people when they disagree with you. maybe you don't mean to do this, but that's how it comes off

    and you certainly don't foster discussion, no matter how many points or reasons you list off, because again every post is written in such a smug and condescending tone. no one wants to have any real conversation with that.

    in the end you end up looking like this guy

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    Hullis wrote:
    Pony wrote:
    yeah comixology doesn't really seem for me

    i'm extremely particular about my online purchases/services i pay money for, and while i'll spend $2 on a chocolate bar at the corner store, spending $2 online on a comic book is something i have to be able to justify to myself and quite frankly i don't think i can

    that's fair, some people like to physically see where their money is going

    (I should probably turn into one of those people)

    i've had to adopt this mindset of justification and restraint with online purchases, otherwise i go bonkers with them, especially tiny purchases of like $2 here and there (fuck you STEAM)

  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    i am sooooo glad Toronto has the Silver Snail

    which is a nice, clean, mainstream comic book shop that has back issue boxes and stuff and a really good selection

    the other comic book stores around here are tiny little armpit clubhouse type places full of the worst kind of nerds and they smell like cat piss

    like the Hairy Tarantula and shit like that

    fuck those places, man

    i'd buy my god damn comics in an Indigo if i could (sometimes i do!)

  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    .
    Turambar wrote:
    rfilyaw wrote:
    My input is as follows:
    I really like the idea of an Avengers movie. I wish it had even more guys, but that would be excessive, and the licensing stuff is cruel

    Mainly, I hope this movie is really long, like 3 hours. Otherwise, with so many main characters, it's going to feel rushed and disjointed. Then again, I wish all movies were 4 hours long. Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings movies spoiled me.

    Looking forward to it. I went too long without watching Iron Man, not realizing how fun it was.

    Have you seen all 5 of the lead up movies, ronnie?

    woah, fast-moving thread

    Which do you mean? Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Cap Am and one other I can't think of?

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  • Spectre-xSpectre-x Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote:
    There is a difference between explaining your opinions and shitting on other peoples' taste and views

    saying "I do not like Bendis' writing, I personally think he is a shit writer for these reasons" is cool

    saying "You like garbage" less so

    plus while you may try to restrict your jerkiness to other jerks, you don't do a good job of it. I mean in the Batman thread you fucking told a guy to kill himself in a volcano because he wanted Darkseid in a Superman movie.

    The "you like garbage" line was in response to Huntera who said Anti's post was horrible simply because she doesn't like Bendis. And the volcano bit I don't see how anyone could actually take that seriously. Regardless, I apologized for that bit, I think even in the very same post in which I said it, and I explained why I overreacted so I think perhaps you're making that incident out to be worse than it really was.

    And I think that you're allowed to strongly disapprove of people's opinions when they can't really justify them. Like someone saying they like Jim Lee despite the fact that his stuff is sloppy, stiff, uninspired and outdated.

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Pony wrote:
    wirehead26 wrote:
    Ah OK. I started getting The Boys in trade format but I just started reading it on comiXology now because apparently this newest arc is the last one so I don't want to wait for it. Never read Herogasm or the Hugie miniseries though, heard they were pretty bad. Will eventually get the Butcher one.

    the Hughie miniseries is terrible

    herogasm adds some interesting character beats and stuff but for the most part takes the already over-the-top sexuality and bizarre bullshit of the series into over-drive

    there's a scene that none-too-subtly implies
    Spoiler:

    and it doesn't come up ever again and i don't know why they put it in there

    The Boys is already trashy, gratuitous schlock

    herogasm pushes that waaaay over the line

    Regarding that spoiler...
    Spoiler:

  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    rfilyaw wrote:
    .
    Turambar wrote:
    rfilyaw wrote:
    My input is as follows:
    I really like the idea of an Avengers movie. I wish it had even more guys, but that would be excessive, and the licensing stuff is cruel

    Mainly, I hope this movie is really long, like 3 hours. Otherwise, with so many main characters, it's going to feel rushed and disjointed. Then again, I wish all movies were 4 hours long. Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings movies spoiled me.

    Looking forward to it. I went too long without watching Iron Man, not realizing how fun it was.

    Have you seen all 5 of the lead up movies, ronnie?

    woah, fast-moving thread

    Which do you mean? Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Cap Am and one other I can't think of?

    think he's counting Iron Man 2

  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? peach treesRegistered User regular
  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    powers is pretty great

    i have the first trade of that somewhere

  • Spectre-xSpectre-x Registered User regular
    Pony wrote:
    i am sooooo glad Toronto has the Silver Snail

    which is a nice, clean, mainstream comic book shop that has back issue boxes and stuff and a really good selection

    the other comic book stores around here are tiny little armpit clubhouse type places full of the worst kind of nerds and they smell like cat piss

    like the Hairy Tarantula and shit like that

    fuck those places, man

    i'd buy my god damn comics in an Indigo if i could (sometimes i do!)

    Are all comic book shops in Toronto named like they could be weird sex moves?

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? peach treesRegistered User regular
    Pony wrote:
    powers is pretty great

    i have the first trade of that somewhere

    I got the hardcover for Christmas a couple years ago

    It's crazy good

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  • Spectre-xSpectre-x Registered User regular
    Olivaw wrote:
    clitoris.jpg

    That girl's head is enormous.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Spectre-x wrote:
    Blankzilla wrote:
    There is a difference between explaining your opinions and shitting on other peoples' taste and views

    saying "I do not like Bendis' writing, I personally think he is a shit writer for these reasons" is cool

    saying "You like garbage" less so

    plus while you may try to restrict your jerkiness to other jerks, you don't do a good job of it. I mean in the Batman thread you fucking told a guy to kill himself in a volcano because he wanted Darkseid in a Superman movie.

    The "you like garbage" line was in response to Huntera who said Anti's post was horrible simply because she doesn't like Bendis. And the volcano bit I don't see how anyone could actually take that seriously. Regardless, I apologized for that bit, I think even in the very same post in which I said it, and I explained why I overreacted so I think perhaps you're making that incident out to be worse than it really was.

    And I think that you're allowed to strongly disapprove of people's opinions when they can't really justify them. Like someone saying they like Jim Lee despite the fact that his stuff is sloppy, stiff, uninspired and outdated.

    People, regular people, should just be able to say "I just think it looks good" though

    I mean not everyone knows about art structure or whatever, but people do know what they like. If someone can't justify why they like something, it's maybe not because there is no reason but because they can't articulate it specifically. And that's fine. We aren't art critics, we're comic fans on a forum.

    And as I've said before, you could be more tactful about it when you disagree with someone, though I do appreciate that you make the effort to do that in any case.

    Solar on
  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    Keith wrote:
    Macro9 wrote:
    Yesssss

    I smell more comic book hate.

    This thread will make me strong as I feed on its terrible energy.

    Have to talk about Jeph Loeb just to feel alive

    His son dying was the best thing that ever happened to me. I felt like I could rip the world apart after that.
    Spoiler:

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  • Spectre-xSpectre-x Registered User regular
    Like a gigantic balloon head.

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    Spectre-x wrote:
    Pony wrote:
    i am sooooo glad Toronto has the Silver Snail

    which is a nice, clean, mainstream comic book shop that has back issue boxes and stuff and a really good selection

    the other comic book stores around here are tiny little armpit clubhouse type places full of the worst kind of nerds and they smell like cat piss

    like the Hairy Tarantula and shit like that

    fuck those places, man

    i'd buy my god damn comics in an Indigo if i could (sometimes i do!)

    Are all comic book shops in Toronto named like they could be weird sex moves?

    maybe?

    uh let's see

    Silver Snail
    Hairy Tarantula
    The Beguiling
    One Million Comix
    Atomic Age
    Third Quadrant

    i can't think of how most of those would be sex acts

    i mean i can't even get creative to think of how those would be sex acts

  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Powers had Warren Ellis playing himself in an earlier issue so that alone made the series amazing.

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Spectre-x wrote:
    Like a gigantic balloon head.

    To be fair the cop's jaw is literally square

    Aint no artistic realism strived for here

  • Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    ah fuck you vanilla

    i had a nice post explaining why people respond to you posts the way they do, spex

    vanilla apparently ate it

    pretty much the way you post comes off in a smug and condescending tone, whether you mean it to or not. you set yourself up as some bastion of good taste with how you present your opinions, and regard everyone who disagrees as an idiot. it doesn't foster discussion like you seem to hope it will, because no one wants to have a conversation about what they think when the other person is just going to berate them for it.

    you approach this as if someone who disagrees with you just hasn't seen reason, and if you post enough stuff they will realize their mistake. I understand you're passionate about the subject, but the way you approach it does not make anyone in their right mind want to have a discussion with you

    because you come off like mort from anime club

  • KeithKeith Registered User regular
    Macro9 wrote:
    Keith wrote:
    Macro9 wrote:
    Yesssss

    I smell more comic book hate.

    This thread will make me strong as I feed on its terrible energy.

    Have to talk about Jeph Loeb just to feel alive

    His son dying was the best thing that ever happened to me. I felt like I could rip the world apart after that.
    Spoiler:

    hahaha jesus

  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? peach treesRegistered User regular
    Spectre-x wrote:
    Like a gigantic balloon head.

    Oeming is a bizarre artist

    Sometimes he draws really good, consistent stuff like Powers

    And other times he draws heinous awful shit that no one in their right mind should be proud of, like that Left 4 Dead comic

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  • DuxDux A host to DarknessRegistered User regular
    Macro9 wrote:
    Keith wrote:
    Macro9 wrote:
    Yesssss

    I smell more comic book hate.

    This thread will make me strong as I feed on its terrible energy.

    Have to talk about Jeph Loeb just to feel alive

    His son dying was the best thing that ever happened to me. I felt like I could rip the world apart after that.
    Spoiler:

    You should.

  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    but seriously Toronto's comic book shops are largely awful

    The Beguiling, I wouldn't describe as an armpit clubhouse

    instead it specializes in indie comics and has Scott Pilgrim posters everywhere and is full of snooty hipsters

  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Olivaw wrote:
    Spectre-x wrote:
    Like a gigantic balloon head.

    Oeming is a bizarre artist

    Sometimes he draws really good, consistent stuff like Powers

    And other times he draws heinous awful shit that no one in their right mind should be proud of, like that Left 4 Dead comic

    Don't think it could have been any worse than what Al Milgrom shat out in Secret Wars 2.

  • Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    i had also included this .gif at the end of the post because it is delightful

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  • rfilyawrfilyaw Registered User regular
    just looks like an extreme perspective thing to me *shrug*

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    picking on a comic's art over something like perspective in an obviously really stylized book seems an enormously pedantic thing to bitch about just for the sake of bitching

    but then

    i'm not an artist

    so maybe if i was that'd bother me more

  • AntimatterAntimatter if you want to talk to me look elsewhere.Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    jeph loeb used to write okay comics that were silly in execution, or some really great stuff, and then he went off the deep end

    Antimatter on
  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote:
    jeph loeb used to write okay comics that were silly in execution, or some really great stuff, and then he went off the deep end

    kinda around the time his son died

  • Spectre-xSpectre-x Registered User regular
    Solar wrote:
    Spectre-x wrote:
    Blankzilla wrote:
    There is a difference between explaining your opinions and shitting on other peoples' taste and views

    saying "I do not like Bendis' writing, I personally think he is a shit writer for these reasons" is cool

    saying "You like garbage" less so

    plus while you may try to restrict your jerkiness to other jerks, you don't do a good job of it. I mean in the Batman thread you fucking told a guy to kill himself in a volcano because he wanted Darkseid in a Superman movie.

    The "you like garbage" line was in response to Huntera who said Anti's post was horrible simply because she doesn't like Bendis. And the volcano bit I don't see how anyone could actually take that seriously. Regardless, I apologized for that bit, I think even in the very same post in which I said it, and I explained why I overreacted so I think perhaps you're making that incident out to be worse than it really was.

    And I think that you're allowed to strongly disapprove of people's opinions when they can't really justify them. Like someone saying they like Jim Lee despite the fact that his stuff is sloppy, stiff, uninspired and outdated.

    People, regular people, should just be able to say "I just think it looks good" though

    I mean not everyone knows about art structure or whatever, but people do know what they like. If someone can't justify why they like something, it's maybe not because there is no reason but because they can't articulate it specifically. And that's fine. We aren't art critics, we're comic fans on a forum.

    And as I've said before, you could make an effort to be more tactful about it when you disagree with someone, though I do appreciate that you make the effort to do that in any case.

    I suppose you're right. I just can't help it when they become defensive about it, though. It's like blood in the water and I'm a shark.

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    i've known spex for many years

    he's sort of like a hurricane of strongly held opinions

    when he washes over an area bludgeoning people with what he thinks about what they think i can't even be mad

    it's just his nature

  • Spectre-xSpectre-x Registered User regular
    Pony wrote:
    picking on a comic's art over something like perspective in an obviously really stylized book seems an enormously pedantic thing to bitch about just for the sake of bitching

    but then

    i'm not an artist

    so maybe if i was that'd bother me more

    I'm not bothered by it, it just looks funny.

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  • Macro9Macro9 Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote:
    jeph loeb used to write okay comics that were silly in execution, or some really great stuff, and then he went off the deep end

    I think he can still write some decent comics.

    I liked Ultimate X and Fallen Son.

    Most other of his more recent stuff is pretty shitty, though.

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Loeb still writes decent stuff sometimes. The Fallen miniseries was one, and the Ultimate X mini another.

  • AntimatterAntimatter if you want to talk to me look elsewhere.Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Pony wrote:
    Antimatter wrote:
    jeph loeb used to write okay comics that were silly in execution, or some really great stuff, and then he went off the deep end

    kinda around the time his son died
    yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah



    fallen son was pretty good, that's right

    haven't read his other thing

    Antimatter on
  • HunteraHuntera Director of GB:N1 ha ha ha ha!Registered User regular
    I like Ultimate X Origins.

    It wasn't high art or anything, but it was fun enough.

    And I wanna see more of The Guardian.

  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    jeph loeb also wrote Heroes, especially in the 2nd season

    and

    well

    you saw what happened

  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Pony wrote:
    jeph loeb also wrote Heroes, especially in the 2nd season

    and

    well

    you saw what happened

    To be fair I heard the series got even worse when he left.

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    Pony wrote:
    i've known spex for many years

    he's sort of like a hurricane of strongly held opinions

    when he washes over an area bludgeoning people with what he thinks about what they think i can't even be mad

    it's just his nature

    I like Spex

    And I have defended the right to be mad about shit that one loves many times

    I just think there is a difference between being mad about something in comics, and being kind of jerky towards some because you disagree with their opinions, dislike what they like or vice versa.

    Nothing wrong with asking for a little civility

    Solar on
  • Vann DirasVann Diras Registered User regular
    are we ready to hug it out yet

    been waiting for this comic book hug out for MONTHS

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