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Perhaps this is a pre-determined conclusion about how you expect people on this forum to act.
You want Cloudeagle to be full of shit, so you call his observations confirmation bias.
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Why do I want him to be full of shit? He promised one thing in this case, and he apparently delivered another in this case.
I'm willing to give the guy a fair shake, but this case doesn't sound positive to me.
And what, you're saying that just because the guy has overpromised and underdelivered before, that means we can never, ever point it out when he does the same thing again?
http://beefjack.com/news/molyneux-slams-controllers-as-tedious-and-boring/
Now, I agree with some of his thoughts, but some of this just makes me think: "Molyneux....you so crazy!" :rotate:
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Sounds like a great advertisement for Kinect! :rotate:
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Man, that Peter Molydeux fake account just keeps getting better and better.
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Wait. What?
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I thought the "Warfighter" thing was brought up earlier, either in this thread or some other PA forum thread. And yes, it is a term that is used in the military (not casually said by any military people that I know, but they said they have heard it used). It sounds terrible, but the military is no stranger to using terrible terminology.
Well, it's kinda earned:
they also can't film for shit
I love that guy.
We don't know personally how well the game plays or how well these particular journalists play video games, but given past performance by journalists, it's reasonable to say that they're probably playing it wrong?
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I mean, really?
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I can appreciate his passion and vision. He probably really thinks it's far better to walk through 3 rooms and 2 loading screens to change weapons, with the system showing 5 at a time out of a list of 50. And it's pretty nifty the first few times. But after a while, you just want to say "Fuck this shit. Give me a a 1-step menu to do this, because having to "use my thumb in a certain way, and having my other hand clamped to the other side of the controller" is actually easier and faster than whatever convoluted design he's come up with.
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6) Training! Attend mandatory training conveniently scheduled during one of the few weekends you weren't supposed to work. Listen to hour upon hour of monotone speakers drone endlessly on about the evils of alcohol and sexual harassment, because a group of officers got busted in Las Vegas. Based on a true story!
IGN gave Sonic Unleashed a lower score than Sonic 2006 and made up several flaws in their review - flaws which actually weren't in the game. Looking at the reviewers gamertag, he didn't even make it past the first stage. To clarify, the second stage is the first werehog stage, with the first stage being a normal sonic level (like the later Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations). He didn't even get through that first part of the stage, yet he wrote at length about the werehog.
that first stage, btw, takes all of 2 minutes to clear.
They resorted to insulting the level design for terrible reasons - in the video review, it claims that the levels are full of unavoidable pits. to demonstrate this, they showed a reviewer walking very slowly down a path (which you are fed into via a speed booster, meaning he entered that area initially running forward, then forced himself to stop, then walked back to the beginning to start filming) right up to a spring (in modern sonic games, all you have to do is touch a spring to activate them), then carefully jumped over it into an obvious pit. This entire section, btw, is in 2D, so all you had to do was walk forward.
Then there was the Football Manager 09 controversy, where IGN US gave the game a 1/10, while IGN UK gave the game a 9/10. Football Manager is a soccer simulation game, where you play as a coach managing a team (making trades, coming up with plays, subbing players, making marketing deals, etc - essentially not a sports game but rather a business sim game). The US Site's criticism? Bad graphics, and you don't actually get to play soccer. Said it wasn't action packed enough. Thought the game was too hard and unfun. IGN has since gone through and deleted the review, but you can still find it online.
And then there was the Game Informer review of Paper Mario 2, where, after a glowing write up where the reviewer praised every single aspect of the game, it was awarded a 6.7/10. The following issue, after a flood of complaints came in, both the editor and reviewer responded by supporting their score. Their reasoning? Despite them both absolutely loving the game, they felt that they needed to write to the perceived expectations of their audience, and that their audience was made up of adults who wouldn't appreciate the colorful graphics and "kiddy" atmosphere of the game, thus they felt the need to steer them away.
In short: Game reviews. LMFAO.
Hahaha, oh wow. That's kind of like how DTOID once tried to review Demon's Souls, but in the end the reviewer just gave up because he didn't understand jack shit of the game. Sort of like how everyone else in the collective western gaming media dismissed that very same game for the most part.
Like, there are cases for and against "hand holding" in modern mainstream games, with most Western press coming down on the "We don't need it stop treating us like idiots!"- side. I just think it's hilarious how this falls so flat on its face every time one of these same journalists either fails miserably at everything in any given game or makes the claim that "The game doesn't teach you how to play it, this is bad game design!".
I think gamers and gaming journalists alike have time and time again proven that they can be absolutely dumb as fuck, and if there isn't "PUSH X TO AWESOME" to keep them interested they just walk away and act all "shitsux", "I want a REAL game", "bad game design!".
Now, on the topic of Molydeux latest... There is very little doubt in my mind that the man is hyping up a game again that's not cut out for everything it's trying to be. He's done it before and it at the very least looks like he's doing it again. Now, I'll try to reserve some final judgement on the game until we hear more about it, and if the man really pulls off everything he wanted to do this time to deliver a really neat gaming experience, then more power to him. He's been trying for so long he kind of deserves that consolation prize by now.
Wait what the hell, Arc you have kids? And how long have I 'known' you via the forum?
I hate learning stuff like this about forumers so late. I dunno why, I'm neurotic or something. <_<
Got mine in Dec at Best Buy; $99 and it came with 3 games. You just have to shop around.
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That will be a problem, I forsee.
Where a DS bought in 2004 will still play games released today, I doubt an iPad you buy today will be playing games released in 8 years.
My Iphone 3gs already struggles to play a few modern iOS games. That was released back in, what, 2009?
Exactly.
There are other good ones like the reviewer who played one of the C tier MMOs for 15 minutes before giving a negative review (the company calling him on it was a newish twist considering all MMOs log time you've played its not something you'd want to lie about.)
My favorite example of why reviewers aren't to be trusted is GTA IV. I'm not going to say the game isn't good but the way Rockstar manipulated the reviewers was hilarious. Locking them in a secret room so they could rush through the game hours before its worldwide launch of the most hyped game of the generation?
That's not really impressive, since both the 360 and PS3 have pathetic memory. Also, his comment is vague - does it have more vram, or more total memory? Does the ipad even have dedicated vram? Is the total system memory unified and shared?
It's a fucking odd gauntlet to throw. The tech of the 360 and PS3 is six years old at this point (seven in the former's case). Of course it feels dated.
That is sadly true.
Tablets and consoles are converging rather quickly, and with tablets having an annual upgrade cycle, that's a problem.
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My 1G iPod Touch I bought in 2008 couldn't play like half of the App Store when I sold it in 2010 because it couldn't update to the latest OS.
Guess what the Xbox 360 and PS3 have more than the iPad 3?
Buttons. Argument over.
Not only that, you can make that statement true in a variety of ways and still not have impressive results. The way he threw around "screen resolution" makes me think he means that the ipad has more ram than the xbox 360 or PS3's video memory... which is TIIIINY TINY TINY. And I'm looking around and not seeing any places which lists vram for the ipad, leading me to believe it's a unified memory structure, meaning all total memory is shared. Which would absolutely be bigger than the 360 and PS3's vram.
But even if he's referring to the total memory for both entire machines... he's boasting about 512 mb of ram. The Vita has more ram than that.
It is?
You can have all the memory and resolution in the world but if you can't fucking control the game what's the point?
The game tells you to fish at a beach. It tells you this while you are standing next to a beach. Therefore, I'm likely not going to look at the map because the intuitive answer appears to be right in front of me.
Yes, the game does actually put an X on the map telling you where to go, and yes the player and that reviewer are technically at fault. And that guy was a dweeb to just give up then and there. But christ, this is not as black and white as the statement makes it to be. It's certainly not some example of "olol reviewer is teh dumbz".
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The argument about which has more buttons is over, I guess.
Well, unless you compare the ipad to kinect, in which case the ipad wins.
So I guess not even that argument is over.
EDIT: Android has more buttons than both, though. Full qwerty keyboard, ability to use Xbox 360 controllers, and buttons on the unit itself.
Which "game?" There's plenty of iOS games I can fucking control. Non-sexual control, even.
One local magazine here in Sweden gave it 6/10 because there was little variation in content or something.
Yeah, LOL.
I'm starting to think they don't really GET the market.
Like, in a phone you can iterate that fast because even the people who don't give a shit tend to upgrade every like 3 years with their phone contracts and the like.
But a tablet is not a phone and I think they may shoot themselves in the foot pretending it is.
Nail on the head, TSR. :^:
I mean... I dunno. To do a classic VG Industry Thread thing, imagine if a car manufacturer advertised their newest model by comparing it to a car from just before the new millennium. "WE HAVE GPS AND SHIT." Uh yeah, compared to 2002, that's not a fucking surprise.
Haha! I feel like that's how it is online. Unless you're reading everything thread everyone else is, you don't really know all that much about them. But yeah, I've got a 5 yo girl, 4 yo boy, and a 1 yo boy. Thinking about it, I've been on this forum since before I got married. Crazy how time flies.
Anyway, I think they're hitting the perfect age for the Kinect and some of the fun little games there, but I guess I'll have to keep my eyes open for a good deal like Capt Howdy.
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