but why I even ask the question is this: a good chunk of democrats, self identified liberals and libertarians give me a lot of same-make-and-model right wing responses
its really odd though. I always kinda had a well meaning centrist feeling. but now there is this developmental feeling. It doesnt feel like i'm a dumb high schooler who thinks he knows everything anymore. I'm talking to these people all the time, my contempt for democrats and libertatians grows by the day
its really odd though. I always kinda had a well meaning centrist feeling. but now there is this developmental feeling. It doesnt feel like i'm a dumb high schooler who thinks he knows everything anymore. I'm talking to these people all the time, my contempt for democrats and libertatians grows by the day
Well that's the thing, the centre in the US is to the right. If you are actually on the left, the entire political mainstream supports views that are pretty much again your own. Aint no mainstream party promoting nationalised healthcare or education, any of that very typical stuff.
I think that it is likely in the US that you get, broadly speaking, Democrat voters who actually support the Democrats, and Democrat voters who go for the lesser evil.
the disconnect is people still clinging to post WW2 feelings. anti-left buzzwords associated with unions or socialized health care are always something like COMMUNIST or SOCIALIST in the face of these things being fairly normal in our world
the disconnect is people still clinging to post WW2 feelings. anti-left buzzwords associated with unions or socialized health care are always something like COMMUNIST or SOCIALIST in the face of these things being fairly normal in our world
Legacy of the Cold War man
Lot of that stuff will go, I think, as the baby boomer generation dies off
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1. Yeah. Nurse practitioners are doctors; their degree just isn't the same kind as an MD.
2. Christ, yes. 'nuff said.
3. Yeah, they're pretty disgusting, and the fact that Apple doesn't give a fuck should be your biggest clue that their image as the benevolent hipsters of American tech is an affectation, for which I'm convinced you've got Steve Jobs, Secret Asshole, to thank.
4. No idea.
5. Yeah. Because the other option was a market-capitalist Republican whose "maverick" status was an affectation (there's that word again! it's like modern life is all about falsehoods or something) he took on so that he could be perceived as a DC outsider while still voting on party lines in ninety percent of cases.
6. Blue Valentine. Dat soundtrack.
7. Former Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi. Mostly I want his hair, but also he looks so happy all the time.
Shorty on
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i evidently know jack shit about the difference between nurses and nurse practitioners
Alright, I'd like to know some things about you, but in list form. I'm conducting surveys all the time but they dumb ass questions.
Observe:
So, thats a real person. Are you a real human being, and a real hero?
Answer my questions, I will make my assessments, discuss answers. Be merry.
1.Should nurse practitioners be allowed to operate on their own, performing their regular duties without the supervision of a doctor, in America?
2. Is Tebowing played out? I saw Tebow on the Pizza Hut website.
3. Are you aware of the conditions at Foxcon?
4.?Goon/Goblin¿
5. Would you still have voted for Obama knowing what you know now?
6. Fave Ryan Gosling film?
7. Which Japanese Man Would You Be If Given The Choice?
1. Like an APN? Yes, they are wonderful.
2. Tebowing was never in and has always been annoying, something that is never in can never be out.
3. yes, this is what happens when it is more profitable to employ outside your country than it is inside your country. We find the working conditions ghastly because in America we'd never put up with that shit, so he took it somewhere that it is common place. I blame Reagan.
4. Goon of course
5. Especially knowing what I know now. I'd like to fire the house and senate though.
6. Ides of March was excellent, but I support him in any film he chooses to do marvelously.
7. Brolly because his power is maximum
its training in the field of medicine yes, but it is not the same thing
in washington a nurse practitioner needs 250 hours of clinical practice every year just to keep his or her license, and are required to go through more continuing education than a doctor is in order to keep their prescriptive authority
and, in a systematic review of patient outcomes from 1990-2008, nurse practitioners in Washington performed as well or better than physicians in all categories:
its really odd though. I always kinda had a well meaning centrist feeling. but now there is this developmental feeling. It doesnt feel like i'm a dumb high schooler who thinks he knows everything anymore. I'm talking to these people all the time, my contempt for democrats and libertatians grows by the day
A doctor gets years of clinical training. A nurse practitioner gets 6 to 8 weeks.
so, all the time spent in nursing school doesn't count?
also, you're going to need to specify what state you're arguing about this in, because the rules are different
the proposal is national
what proposal?
in short there's a proposal the company I am at is testing the waters for. Allowing nurse practitioners to set up their own practices WITHOUT doctor supervision
Speaking at a town hall-style event at Oral Roberts University in Tulsa, OK, Newt Gingrich mocked the Obama Administration's promotion of smaller, fuel-efficient vehicles.
"Let me start from a simple premise that Oklahomans will understand: you cannot put a gun rack in a Volt," Gingrich said.
Apparently attacking GM is cool now because they got a bail-out. USA! USA! But not Chevy.
its training in the field of medicine yes, but it is not the same thing
in washington a nurse practitioner needs 250 hours of clinical practice every year just to keep his or her license, and are required to go through more continuing education than a doctor is in order to keep their prescriptive authority
and, in a systematic review of patient outcomes from 1990-2008, nurse practitioners in Washington performed as well or better than physicians in all categories:
it is an uncomfortable idea to me insofar as it opening the door to playing it fast and loose with medicine. For example, shorty do those numbers include years spent in the profession
it is an uncomfortable idea to me insofar as it opening the door to playing it fast and loose with medicine. For example, shorty do those numbers include years spent in the profession
Hey man
people are allowed to set up reiki and chiropractic and homeopathy practices
a nurse is gonna get folks better care than those places
Also general physicians have limits on their effectiveness and are encouraged to refer patients to specialists, why not just set up a similar system? A nurse can perform most of the day-to-day functions of a normal family doctor.
it is an uncomfortable idea to me insofar as it opening the door to playing it fast and loose with medicine. For example, shorty do those numbers include years spent in the profession
Hey man
people are allowed to set up reiki and chiropractic and homeopathy practices
a nurse is gonna get folks better care than those places
Also general physicians have limits on their effectiveness and are encouraged to refer patients to specialists, why not just set up a similar system? A nurse can perform most of the day-to-day functions of a normal family doctor.
insurance costs
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it is an uncomfortable idea to me insofar as it opening the door to playing it fast and loose with medicine. For example, shorty do those numbers include years spent in the profession
Hey man
people are allowed to set up reiki and chiropractic and homeopathy practices
a nurse is gonna get folks better care than those places
Also general physicians have limits on their effectiveness and are encouraged to refer patients to specialists, why not just set up a similar system? A nurse can perform most of the day-to-day functions of a normal family doctor.
my why not rationale is that on the job practical training is what this amounts to. while they are in medicine, they are in different vocations
okay, related question to the nurse practitioner stuff.
what do we do about the problem that many more people need services than there are qualified people to deliver them?
like, we need lots of doctors, but not enough people seem to be getting MDs, so now we're hyping up stuff like nurse practitioner and physician assistant. my close friend is in physician assistant school, and the very notion that someone could consider his training to be on par with a real doctor is terrifying.
similarly, we need therapists, but psychiatrists are mostly medicine-prescribers with less therapy training than they once had, and there aren't enough psychologists around. as a result, we now have various master's level therapist roles. i run into some of them at my externship, and man, it's tragically depressing to see how superficial of an education they gain in most topics, and can then go out there and say they're qualified therapists.
i imagine similar stuff is happening in most high-education-required fields? less-education roles pop up, initially to be support, but as the demand grows higher their role becomes progressively more and more like the more-educated counterpart? that doesn't seem ideal, so what do we do?
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The Democrats are right wing dude
2. everything tebow is played out. lin is the new hotness, esp since i got on the bandwagon after the first fucking game against jersey
3. yeah but literally every consumer electronic good is made shittily. i dunno what the fuck i can do except buy used and recycle hardware
4. goons pls.
5. yeah, to do it at all sanely, you have to compare his administration with a potential mccain admin, not whatever you hoped he would accomplish
6. half-nelson. haven't seen much else. weird since my bro is the kind of dude who would watch drive five times and he's my main movie guy
7. i dunno, probably the subway romance thread guy. this is a bad answer
Well that's the thing, the centre in the US is to the right. If you are actually on the left, the entire political mainstream supports views that are pretty much again your own. Aint no mainstream party promoting nationalised healthcare or education, any of that very typical stuff.
I think that it is likely in the US that you get, broadly speaking, Democrat voters who actually support the Democrats, and Democrat voters who go for the lesser evil.
Libertarianism is pretty awful, yeah.
Legacy of the Cold War man
Lot of that stuff will go, I think, as the baby boomer generation dies off
2. Christ, yes. 'nuff said.
3. Yeah, they're pretty disgusting, and the fact that Apple doesn't give a fuck should be your biggest clue that their image as the benevolent hipsters of American tech is an affectation, for which I'm convinced you've got Steve Jobs, Secret Asshole, to thank.
4. No idea.
5. Yeah. Because the other option was a market-capitalist Republican whose "maverick" status was an affectation (there's that word again! it's like modern life is all about falsehoods or something) he took on so that he could be perceived as a DC outsider while still voting on party lines in ninety percent of cases.
6. Blue Valentine. Dat soundtrack.
7. Former Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi. Mostly I want his hair, but also he looks so happy all the time.
i am the worst
oh yeah it aint going to just go because these people are getting bumped off by old age
But I think it will reduce
Nurse Laura
she was a nice lady
so, all the time spent in nursing school doesn't count?
also, you're going to need to specify what state you're arguing about this in, because the rules are different
1. Like an APN? Yes, they are wonderful.
2. Tebowing was never in and has always been annoying, something that is never in can never be out.
3. yes, this is what happens when it is more profitable to employ outside your country than it is inside your country. We find the working conditions ghastly because in America we'd never put up with that shit, so he took it somewhere that it is common place. I blame Reagan.
4. Goon of course
5. Especially knowing what I know now. I'd like to fire the house and senate though.
6. Ides of March was excellent, but I support him in any film he chooses to do marvelously.
7. Brolly because his power is maximum
Seiji Ozawa. Raddest fucking hair and a crazy conductor.
in washington a nurse practitioner needs 250 hours of clinical practice every year just to keep his or her license, and are required to go through more continuing education than a doctor is in order to keep their prescriptive authority
and, in a systematic review of patient outcomes from 1990-2008, nurse practitioners in Washington performed as well or better than physicians in all categories:
https://www.nursingeconomics.net/ce/2013/article3001021.pdf
so I don't know what kind of broke-ass bullshit you've got where you're from but our nurse practitioners here are tits
one of many reasons, yes
the other main one is that he's just as much Wall Street's man as McCain would have been
the proposal is national
what proposal?
american centrist or like
actual centrist?
also this is a good japanese man
http://business.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/01/
in short there's a proposal the company I am at is testing the waters for. Allowing nurse practitioners to set up their own practices WITHOUT doctor supervision
Apparently attacking GM is cool now because they got a bail-out. USA! USA! But not Chevy.
Also this lady is a fruitcake.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/02/20/in-labored-clarification-fox-contributor-castigates-militarys-fake-heroism/
That is great and all but is that the norm in the country
Hey man
people are allowed to set up reiki and chiropractic and homeopathy practices
a nurse is gonna get folks better care than those places
Also general physicians have limits on their effectiveness and are encouraged to refer patients to specialists, why not just set up a similar system? A nurse can perform most of the day-to-day functions of a normal family doctor.
Need some stuff designed or printed? I can help with that.
insurance costs
how is gucci still alive what the hell
my why not rationale is that on the job practical training is what this amounts to. while they are in medicine, they are in different vocations
i'm sorry you hate fun
what do we do about the problem that many more people need services than there are qualified people to deliver them?
like, we need lots of doctors, but not enough people seem to be getting MDs, so now we're hyping up stuff like nurse practitioner and physician assistant. my close friend is in physician assistant school, and the very notion that someone could consider his training to be on par with a real doctor is terrifying.
similarly, we need therapists, but psychiatrists are mostly medicine-prescribers with less therapy training than they once had, and there aren't enough psychologists around. as a result, we now have various master's level therapist roles. i run into some of them at my externship, and man, it's tragically depressing to see how superficial of an education they gain in most topics, and can then go out there and say they're qualified therapists.
i imagine similar stuff is happening in most high-education-required fields? less-education roles pop up, initially to be support, but as the demand grows higher their role becomes progressively more and more like the more-educated counterpart? that doesn't seem ideal, so what do we do?