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[Mass Effect] Lay off the DLC arguments. USE SPOILER TAGS
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so when I buy the game on sale for $5 6 months down the line, can I get the DLC?
One costs $60, one costs $80. This is not free.
Isn't that kind of a weird argument, though? "If you pirate this, you get it for free. If you pay for it, you have to spend money." Yeah? From a purely let's say consumer driven viewpoint you always get a better deal if you pirate something since you get it for free -- the value you get for money spent is basically infinite.
Only buy it if you want it, no one is forcing you to. The fact that people will is why they do it.
Also, considering how slowly video game prices have risen in the last thirty years this isn't exactly killing me. Back in the day, Crono Trigger cost 80-90 dollars and that was a SNES game. I'm just glad price increases are being massively outstripped by inflation.
Plus I have the option not to get DLC! Most people don't.
this was the case with the past 2 iterations of Forza, so if you're being a sarcastic shitposter, it's not appreciated
A near definite date of delivery is why I don't goof around with Super Saver Shipping. I don't have the patience/tolerance for any package I order to play "Missed Delivery" tag, be stolen, damaged, or left simply left outside... So, yeah. I pay for S&H. The cost is peanuts vs that agitation.
I was being a sarcastic shitposter.
But wait, what the fuck? Someone tried to sell DLC in a 24 hour time period? Like, for reals? That's insane. Are you actually worried that Bioware is going to do that?
Games cost money to make, extra game costs extra money to make. If you don't think the extra content is worth extra money, then not buying it should not be a massive world-ending problem because you have already valued it at less than $10.
Zaeed was also included with a slew of other stuff that you got for buying the game new. For no additional cost. Now you have to buy a brand new, $80 version to get all the lore marrow out of this game bone or $60 for the base game and another $10 for just the lore mission/character and none of the other stuff that the extra $20 out of the gate would net you.
Which is silly. And makes me sad.
Comprehensive list of the shittiness that is this game's matchmaking:
1.) You cannot exit out of a stalled loading/connecting screen. You either have to wait for it to timeout or alt+f4.
2.) If you don't connect to a game/lobby it gives you the message then loads the multiplayer area again.. where you just were. If you cancel it doesn't make you load it again.
3.) Roughly 50% of my game searches will fail to connect to anything. Most just send me to #2, probably 10% of these send me to #1.
4.) People never get put into empty lobby slots.
5.) If someone afks in the lobby it's over because if you kick them see flaw #4.
6.) The game sticks you into 1-3 player lobbies all the time. See flaw #4.
7.) Despite there being a keybind for text chat, it sure doesn't do anything.
makes sense to me
This means sometime down the line I'll be spending less money - and you can bet your ass it will be an EA game that gets cut from the "should I buy that?" consideration.
My attempt to slay my backlog.
I'll pay it gladly as this franchise has proven to have an off the charts Positive Entertainment Value to Sunk Cost Ratio (an economic model of my own design that pertains only to me).
There's a handful of simple convenient things that make playing by PC awesome instead of slightly clunky.
Of course the game will be awesome and worth playing regardless.
Like I said, it's not going to stop me from buying it, but I can see why it would be annoying to some.
The unwashed masses are going to PREORDER CANCELLED regardless of pretty much anything.
I find it odd that the vast majority of people seem to be happy about having part of the game removed and sold seperately. Like not even indifferent, happy, and extremely hostile towards anyone who disagrees.
I think that only applies to day 1 DLC, to be honest. I haven't seen anyone irritated by Lair of the Shadow Broker being a thing.
???
the unwashed masses won't even know about the DLC until they pop the disc into their drive and even then none of them will care and a ton of them will buy it
I'm A-OK with DLC content to incentivize people buying a game new, but this is just complete shitdrudgery. I know it's an amazing content, but games should ship with the content that's ready, not nickel-and-dime folks with a million separate pieces of it. The way the DLC is being handled is a major factor in why I'm wondering if I should even bother with ME3 at all; Skyrim has a shitload more content than ME1 and ME2 put together for the same price as ME3.
The only thing this preorder DLC (or ME3 DLC in general) shit is doing to me is encouraging me to either skip ME3 until it ends up on sale on Amazon or just not finish the series at all. There's no way in hell I'm paying extra for game content that is held out of the game for wholly abitrary reasons and could easily be part of the release at this point.
That assumes we would have gotten it at all without the DLC.
From most accounts it would have just ended up cut like so much else in older games and never seen.
You ascribe nefarious motives while I'm more inclined to believe people are telling the truth.
It's the part of the game that they're finishing after the base build of the game was done. Would you rather they didn't add more content in the weeks leading up to release?
Have you considered donating money to Electronic Arts to show your appreciation?
I would have rather had them cancel it and begun work on the first substantial paid DLC, or used it as a "First purchaser" incentive like in previous titles, or even in the manner they used Karkand in BF3
Them's the brakes of shopping for electronic entertainment in a used-sales-saturated-ease-of-piracy-market.
Really I don't care because...Mass Effect!...otherwise I just wouldn't bother purchasing the DLC.
(edited for weird double quote)
You clearly have great insight into the development process of this game. Can you tell me when they decided to excise the content, and what occurs there if you lack the DLC, or are you just making assumptions?
By the way, $60 vs. $70 is not the price point that determines a pirate. "Morals" vs "lack of morals and an inflated sense of entitlement" is what determines whether you pirate something or not. Let's not engage in the reckless blurring of lines in order to make thievery seem like a rational, just decision when discussing opulent luxuries.
Surprise, surprise.
$57 for the whole thing. Still less than the game normally.
I want to have newegg's babies.
Skyrim does not have more content than ME1+ME2. Skyrim has, at best, a handful of five hour storylines and thousands of tedious hours of travel and procedurally generated content that offers virtually nothing novel or new after you've gone through it for a few hours. It is a completely different type of gaming experience that relies heavily on players making their own fun by chronicling the bizarre glitches that pop up. Also there are at least twenty major quests that break if you even look at them funnily, and more that are just terrible time wastes. I don't consider "ROB THIS RANDOM BAUBLE" repeated 20 times for the thieves guild to be fucking content.
Skyrim was a sixty hour game for me, both ME1+ME2 were 100+ hours.
And we've come full circle back to that MW2 "boycott" group picture the day of launch.
No one will cancel their preorder over this. Maybe some dude will. Whatever. But it won't even be a drop in the bucket of people who will just bitch about it but still buy the game. Whether or not they buy the DLC isn't even the point.
I don't even know how that would be possible. Really stretching it out and doing EVERYTHING in ME2 takes about 50 hours, 60 tops (including all the DLC)
We should get that for FREE, even if otherwise those personnel would be working on something else, because I deserve it.
edit: So long as in-game they don't have something as over the top as that douchebag at the party encampment in DA:1. That pulled me right out of the game and pissed me off.
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If it's ready by the time the game comes out, and more is charged for it, then it's part of the game they deliberately decided to not ship because they felt $60 wasn't enough for the price of the game.
This is coming from somebody who spent hundreds of dollars for fucking animation variations and costumes I never used in Champions Online. I'm totally down with charging for additional content, day one DLC is a fucking racket though and the only reason they're getting away with it is it's Mass Effect
What I don't understand is people praising this behavior. I really hope I'm wrong but the community's response to this makes me think we're going to start seeing more and more day one DLC in games in the future, people clearly love it.
Imagine you're electronic arts for a second and you read this thread: Most of the people think day one DLC is totally awesome. Now you're planning Mass Effect 4 or Mass Effect: Wrex goes to Vegas or something, you now have the option of making $X or $X+Y+Z if you take a third of the development team and devote them to making your game ala carte
I'm ok with this.
The 2012 issue of Fornax. | Steam and Origin: Espressosaurus
Amazon.com has release-date delivery for $1.00.
And that, friends, is why I always buy new games that I care about recieving on release date from Amazon.
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