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Starhawk it's like Firefly with more Macross. Game's out today!

MalechaiMalechai Registered User regular
edited May 2012 in Games and Technology
The long awaited spiritual successor to Warhawk comes out on May 8th with a full single player campaign and a revamped multiplayer portion. Starhawk is being developed by Santa Monica and Light Box Interactive.

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Single player:
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Multiplayer:
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Vehicles and weapons:
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Flak gun: Deadly in a dogfight just line up get close and watch your victim fall from the sky. No aim assist only dumb fire so great for an ambush, but limited usefulness in more turn and burn dogfights.

Torpedo: Long wind up big damage. These are very slow moving projectiles and can be shot down by the enemy. When they hit they hit hard though shorting out shields and leveling any structure taking a direct hit.



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  • sliver911sliver911 Registered User regular
    How is it possible that I'm the only one to comment on how amazing this game is!!!

  • MalechaiMalechai Registered User regular
    Honestly sliver it escapes me too. Not going to post any more till 1.3 hits or there is some serious traffic up in this thread.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    My ps3 is basically a blu ray player now. I will download the beta now, my ps3 needs lovin'.

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  • RyadicRyadic Registered User regular
    I logged on last night and played roughly 10 minutes and gave up. Seems like there is a lot going on. Is there like some kind of tutorial?

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    It took all night to download Starhawk. I watched the movie Event Horizon and when it was done, it was at 10%. Now it's installing finally.

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  • MalechaiMalechai Registered User regular
    Ryadic wrote: »
    I logged on last night and played roughly 10 minutes and gave up. Seems like there is a lot going on. Is there like some kind of tutorial?

    Check the multiplayer spoiler that videos about the best we have atm. Yeah between building, flying, shooting, driving and capin flags, yeah the game has a lot going on.

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  • CincituckyCincitucky Registered User regular
    Played the beta several times and it somehow has me hooked. Basically abandoned BF3 to play this any chance I get to fire up the PS3.

    One possible drawback to the game's multiplayer is definitely going to be the demand for tactical strategy and teamwork. There's been a mix of CTF matches where my team actually builds reasonably well to fortify our territory and follows the objective to cap the flags. Other times, people are building structures that are either redundant to logically make no sense defensively. In addition, essentially no one is making attempts to at least grab the flags.

    Definitely interested in picking up this game. Just have a concern that pubbing it a majority of the time in multiplayer is going to shorten the life of online games.

    Imagine what "cheese' could exist if someone tried to copy Velveeta.
  • MalechaiMalechai Registered User regular
    edited February 2012
    We did have a few good months of Warhawk games on the forum. Right now the side bar not showing any ones friends kinda disrupts the ability to get a party going or I would be doing that constantly. Humoring the thought of throwing up a server for us to play on but my pathetic bandwidth would make for a laughably low player count.

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  • Emerlmaster999Emerlmaster999 Sleepy Ferrets Registered User regular
    Oh right, this game exists.

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  • eobeteobet Registered User regular
    Just tried it, and holy crap it looks interesting, and if it would be on a PC it would probably be absolutely awesome and I would play it all day long, but as it is now, it feels very hampered by being on a PS3, with the framerate very low for this type of game (especially in flight which is especially bad) and the controls cries out for mouse and keyboard, but that might just be my preference...

    Heard the proposition that RIAA and MPAA should join forces and form "Music And Film Industry Association"?
  • MalechaiMalechai Registered User regular
    eobet wrote: »
    Just tried it, and holy crap it looks interesting, and if it would be on a PC it would probably be absolutely awesome and I would play it all day long, but as it is now, it feels very hampered by being on a PS3, with the framerate very low for this type of game (especially in flight which is especially bad) and the controls cries out for mouse and keyboard, but that might just be my preference...

    Maybe on the ground game M/KB would be great. I cannot stand dog fights with mouse control, or even realistic flight at all. The only reason the raptor in unreal 2k4 was bearable was it was hover flight.

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  • MalechaiMalechai Registered User regular
    Well judging from the enormous patch I am downloading now 1.3 is probably here. Tanks and hover bikes should now be in the game along with 32 player maps. My internet is so horrible I will probably not be done downloading for a few hours but if someone wants to try and get a server going I would be down for a few games.

    Who knows they may have fixed the flist bug.

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  • CincituckyCincitucky Registered User regular
    @Malechai what's your PSN ID? Just finished the download and I'll end up hopping on later.

    Imagine what "cheese' could exist if someone tried to copy Velveeta.
  • MalechaiMalechai Registered User regular
    Cincitucky wrote: »
    @Malechai what's your PSN ID? Just finished the download and I'll end up hopping on later.

    It's Malechai but my internet says I will be downloading the patch for another 2 hours. Since I havn't been able to get on the game today have they fixed the bugged flist integration?

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  • MalechaiMalechai Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Wow the patch is finished and I have discovered we need to make a clan. Any suggestions for the name?

    Impressions: New interface with the buildings is nice and the built in tutorial will probably help a lot if people use it.

    The changes to the flight hud are a bit too much. With a dogfight intensive server it is hard to pick your target out from the swarm to focus fire. The torpedo is toned down a lot from what was shown in the early footage still great for taking out turret fields but for bigger structures you need a direct hit. Flak gun is great in dog fights terrible on the ground.

    Tank seems powerful and even has a mortar mode which is cool. Didn't drive it myself seeing as I have always been more of a close air support type. Hawk guns will lock on to them so beware.

    Jet bike seems kinda like little more than a novelty. You can run over people with it and shoot your infantry weapons but you loose your momentum when aiming. It's just a small razorback with more maneuverability.

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  • CincituckyCincitucky Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    WangRift? for a clan name.

    Was the MAV rocket laucher lock-on removed? Could never lock onto any overhead hawks buzzing the base.

    Changes to the on-screen interfaces with buildings and vehicles are consistent with weapon switching which is nice. Just got confused with the button switching.

    Don't understand why you can't fire your weapon while driving the jet bike. I'd like to see where you can at least fire straight ahead while moving on the bike, you only come to a stop while aiming your weapon.

    Overall, Starhawk still has my interest in seeing the final product.

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  • SoktosSoktos Registered User
    The 1.3 changes to this game make it feel MUCH more like Warhawk. I am loving it.

    Add me for some games... PSN Soktos

  • eobeteobet Registered User regular
    Did they improve the framerate in the new patch?

    Coming from the PC, the previous beta really hurt my eyes...

    Heard the proposition that RIAA and MPAA should join forces and form "Music And Film Industry Association"?
  • MalechaiMalechai Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Cincitucky wrote: »
    WangRift? for a clan name.

    Was the MAV rocket laucher lock-on removed? Could never lock onto any overhead hawks buzzing the base.

    Changes to the on-screen interfaces with buildings and vehicles are consistent with weapon switching which is nice. Just got confused with the button switching.

    Don't understand why you can't fire your weapon while driving the jet bike. I'd like to see where you can at least fire straight ahead while moving on the bike, you only come to a stop while aiming your weapon.

    Overall, Starhawk still has my interest in seeing the final product.

    Well since you have taken the initiative I guess Rifting Wang will work.

    Yeah I couldn't get a lock on either, I am hoping they either reduced the range or it's a bug.

    As for frame rate I have not noticed any change.

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  • hatedinamericahatedinamerica Registered User regular
    So, this game is pretty much Section 8 Prejudice exactly, except with transforming jet-mechs instead of regular, walking mechs, right?

    Because I am so into that.

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  • sliver911sliver911 Registered User regular
    PSN ID - Sliver911

    Yeah I'm all over this game. Love it. The tank has 2 fire modes if you havn't discovered that yet. It has the ability to launch an artillery volley at enemies. Amazing. Add me up and lets do this thang!

  • CincituckyCincitucky Registered User regular
    Malechai wrote: »
    Cincitucky wrote: »
    WangRift? for a clan name.

    Was the MAV rocket laucher lock-on removed? Could never lock onto any overhead hawks buzzing the base.

    Changes to the on-screen interfaces with buildings and vehicles are consistent with weapon switching which is nice. Just got confused with the button switching.

    Don't understand why you can't fire your weapon while driving the jet bike. I'd like to see where you can at least fire straight ahead while moving on the bike, you only come to a stop while aiming your weapon.

    Overall, Starhawk still has my interest in seeing the final product.

    Well since you have taken the initiative I guess Rifting Wang will work.

    Yeah I couldn't get a lock on either, I am hoping they either reduced the range or it's a bug.

    As for frame rate I have not noticed any change.

    Yeah, I jumped the gun and made the clan. I won't start one when the game releases, leaving that to someone else.

    Figured out the lock-on. While aiming, you have to hold down the fire button. Letting go of the button to fire after the lock-on.

    Imagine what "cheese' could exist if someone tried to copy Velveeta.
  • MalechaiMalechai Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Thanks for finding the secret of the rocket launcher. That was realy driving me nuts.

    Currently the biggest issue I am having with the game is that everyone is making servers to try out the different load out options. So I hit quick match and wind up in a 3v3 game on dust which really isn't all that exciting.

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  • CincituckyCincitucky Registered User regular
    No problem. That was one of my gripes, figuring out how some things work. Especially when they changed interfaces or button functionality.

    I've been using the game listing to find ones with a decent number of players. Found a few 32 player games on Dust, TDM is a blast. Thought CTF would be more entertaining but team death match has been fun every time.

    Imagine what "cheese' could exist if someone tried to copy Velveeta.
  • sliver911sliver911 Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    I thought I would just let you guys know my current strategy in CTF games.

    I usually start by building a Hawk station right off the bat. As soon as I'm in my hawk I go and grab a torpedo ( the new BLUE weapon )

    That torpedo deals out crazy damage to enemy bases, and is a great way to break the enemy at the beginning. That essentially destroys whatever they have built immediately. From there I make slow passes at their base to destroy whatever turrets they are trying to build.

    Usually, if I have a good flag caper, this strategy will set the pace for the rest of the game.

    I have back up strategy's if this fails. Once the enemy groups together and builds laser defences you have to switch gears. I found that building off-shute bases close to their home base is key. Once you have a defended armory established you can continuously assault their defences with rocket launchers until your ready to attack with a hawk once again. Also, keep in mind that the torpedoes respawn every so often and they break defences easily.

    Hopefully, someone here enjoys capping flags and building defences! That way we could form a tight team.

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  • sliver911sliver911 Registered User regular
    Cincitucky wrote:
    I've been using the game listing to find ones with a decent number of players. Found a few 32 player games on Dust, TDM is a blast. Thought CTF would be more entertaining but team death match has been fun every time.

    I haven't tried TDM yet! I just assumed it would be crap! Oh, is it possible to set up some Clan matches in the near future?

  • MalechaiMalechai Registered User regular
    sliver911 wrote: »
    Cincitucky wrote:
    I've been using the game listing to find ones with a decent number of players. Found a few 32 player games on Dust, TDM is a blast. Thought CTF would be more entertaining but team death match has been fun every time.

    I haven't tried TDM yet! I just assumed it would be crap! Oh, is it possible to set up some Clan matches in the near future?

    They do have an option for clan matches but it is currently disabled. Think they may not roll that out till full game.

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  • CincituckyCincitucky Registered User regular
    Getting frustrated with this game freezing almost every other match.

    With as much as I'm enjoying the beta, having to restart the system a couple times in one sitting makes me give up.

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  • MalechaiMalechai Registered User regular
    Cincitucky wrote: »
    Getting frustrated with this game freezing almost every other match.

    With as much as I'm enjoying the beta, having to restart the system a couple times in one sitting makes me give up.

    Think that mostly has to do with the host disconnecting and the server migrating to a host with a poor connection. Here is hoping that when the full game comes out that there will be dedicated servers like warhawk had, p2p gaming is never the best answer just the cheapest.

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  • CincituckyCincitucky Registered User regular
    Malechai wrote: »
    Cincitucky wrote: »
    Getting frustrated with this game freezing almost every other match.

    With as much as I'm enjoying the beta, having to restart the system a couple times in one sitting makes me give up.

    Think that mostly has to do with the host disconnecting and the server migrating to a host with a poor connection. Here is hoping that when the full game comes out that there will be dedicated servers like warhawk had, p2p gaming is never the best answer just the cheapest.

    Have to keep an eye on that setting before joining a game next time. If that is the problem I'm guessing the host migration is defaulting to Yes and no one ever turns it off, or everyone chooses Yes thinking its a good idea. Hoping I'll have a reply in this thread noting that's the issue. Don't want to scare away others that are sitting on the fence about trying this game.

    The best laugh I keep getting is from using the MAV launcher on those flying around with the vulture, once they get off the ground I'm locking on to them to get the free kill.

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  • sliver911sliver911 Registered User regular
    I've rarely had connection issues. I think the worst I've had is the game will go back to the title screen after a match sometimes.

    I've had poor luck bringing down vultures with the MAV launcher. Seriously, the matches I've been in recently have been stacked with great players who can outrun and out smart any lock on. Switching your flight controls to "Arcade" is the solution here. These Warhawk Vets are near impossible to bring down compared to the newbs of the game.

    If you ever find yourself completely dominated by a good pilot, go for the tank. They are forced to slow down and make runs at you in straight lines. That tank can bring down vultures with ease in these situation. Better yet, have someone jump in that tank with a MAV launcher and your set for success

  • MalechaiMalechai Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    sliver911 wrote: »
    I've rarely had connection issues. I think the worst I've had is the game will go back to the title screen after a match sometimes.

    I've had poor luck bringing down vultures with the MAV launcher. Seriously, the matches I've been in recently have been stacked with great players who can outrun and out smart any lock on. Switching your flight controls to "Arcade" is the solution here. These Warhawk Vets are near impossible to bring down compared to the newbs of the game.

    If you ever find yourself completely dominated by a good pilot, go for the tank. They are forced to slow down and make runs at you in straight lines. That tank can bring down vultures with ease in these situation. Better yet, have someone jump in that tank with a MAV launcher and your set for success

    Honestly I would suggest advanced flight. It gives you a much more aggressive profile because the camera sticks closer to the cross-hairs all the time. Shaking a lock on is not hard in this mode either you just spas out on both sticks* and watch the missiles drop. Was a bit confused by your post cause the vultures are jet packs and getting a rocket lock on them is in my experience a certain kill.

    *Spassing out on both sticks means pushing both sticks in the same direction then the opposite then another random direction repeat.
    L4 R4, L6 R6, L7 R7, L3 R3. To use fighting game notation this is what a typical advanced missile scrub looks like just keep repeating this until all locks are broken. It does not matter which direction as long as you follow this basic pattern. It's not 100% best way to counter another player doing this is to get a good lock from a distance then boost into them and release your shot when the tips of their wings are further out than the edges of the lock-on reticule.

    Edit: Tips I forgot about shaking missiles in advanced flight: Use your boost to get a few extra seconds. You will notice lights blinking on you wings this will tell you what direction the missiles are coming from, start your shake in the opposite direction. Finally if you happen to have air mines at the time use them this has multiple benefits, if they are as aggressive as me they will probably take a few hits and get scared off, if they are firing the gun at you it will auto track to the mines too disrupting their aim.

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  • CincituckyCincitucky Registered User regular
    Appears that Sliver is describing Hawks, which I would agree are becoming more difficult to bring down with the MAV. People are figuring out how to scrub those missiles. Your better off ignoring Hawks a majority of the time unless they're strafing you or they land.

    For Vultures, I'm usually hoping to find people on foot with that pack strapped to their back. Once they leave the ground I'm switching to the MAV. BOOM!! hahaha

    One thing that would be nice is actually joining the same team as other PAers playing this game. Everytime I've hopped into a game, I've joined the opposing team. And for Sliver, I'd appreciate you not landing in the area I'm trying to build a structure... ass! :mrgreen:

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  • sliver911sliver911 Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    LOL!

    Sorry about the confusion. Yes, I was referring to the Hawks. I think when I saw the unfamiliar "vulture" reference I thought "Oh man, is that what they call the new warhawks?"

    I have yet to try going out on an adventure taking down these poor vulture strapped individuals. I'm sure its a blast!

    That was a corny pun..

    I know in Warhawk the pros would use the advanced flight mechanic. I have yet to give it the time. Thanks for your little tutorial.

    @Cincitucky I will never stop harassing your attempts to build a base lol!

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  • CincituckyCincitucky Registered User regular
    We knew what you were referencing. :D

    Finally had a full sitting without the game freezing but that might be related to the recent patch. Much better. Only unfortunate thing was playing with some obvious warhawk vets. Near impossible to get any kills.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    Grr... have to finish homework so I can try this game.

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  • MalechaiMalechai Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Just switched to night shift so no hawk for me for another three hours or so. Is there a way to form a party when not in game? If so that might stop the wrong team issue.

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  • CincituckyCincitucky Registered User regular
    We'll have to check if the party functionality is there and works when we get a couple people online. It'd be nice to have and try using teamwork. Right now, much of the game is a solo effort and whether or not your team is focused on the objective.

    Apparently, 1.3.1 stopped system freezes. Its refreshing to see a developer with a fast turnaround in changes and applying fixes.

    As much as I like the skill showing me my last killer, its a distraction. While it was turned on, too much time was spent chasing that person versus playing the match.

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  • sliver911sliver911 Registered User regular
    Yeah, what skills are you guys using? I'm currently using the "Show Radar", where apparently you can see all enemies on radar no matter what... |

  • CincituckyCincitucky Registered User regular
    Show Radar. I'd prefer to have the extended clip/longer overheat timing.

    Several perks in the list are odd: spawn with a certain weapon or always accumilate rift energy. Most times, someone has constructed the supply bunker in every possible area to spawn. In every case, your rift energy bar fills after a minute of playing a match, assuming your not sitting in the base the entire time.

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