Are you intending to post for every 5,000 all the way to 900k? Because that's a lot of posts. If it makes it that far.
Anyway, the mad rush out of the gate is good to see but also completely to be expected. The telling time will be how far they have got and what kind of pace they are keeping after 24hrs.
We don't need live updates. People can go to the Kickstarter page to see the numbers.
Or that.
Anyway, if anyone's wondering if they can use Steam since the Kickstarter mentions "DRM-Free". Yes, according to this faq:
Can I get my digital copy on Steam, if I want?
Absolutely. The digital copies will be made available through Steam and other DRM free digital distribution methods.
Also you have to pledge an additional $15 for international shipping.
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EshTending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles.Portland, ORRegistered Userregular
edited March 2012
"Would I fucking be here if I did Angry Birds?"
Kinda funny video, but he definitely doesn't have the charisma of Tim. Oh, and Jason Anderson looks like he'll kill me and make a skin suit if I don't pledge.
But, as a fan of Interplay in the 80s, how can I not pledge? I was a teenager when most of these games came out.
Ok different note, im curious to see what kind sales numbers kickstarter backed projects are going to have. As an example what makes a successful release of a game.
For an independently funded game selling 100k copies should be considered a smashing success. But look at doublefine, they are giving out 80k copies of the game to backers, so you need to be considered a huge success to make actually make a profit (200k).
But when you kickstart a game you are tapping your target audience, normally for an indy game getting 100k units sold is a smashing success. But when your core audience are your backers (doublefine for instance) 80k copies are already promised to fans.
It is basically a gamble on your value of a name (as opposed to a publisher or an IP and its history), if the game flops you are severely comprised among your community of fans, and they are not likely to come back. Even rampant success doesnt exactly mean you can bring your IP to a publisher for another sequel.
I am expecting around 75k backers for wasteland, but what kind of secondary market will there be for this game. I hope they can sexy it up for the kids similiar to the Xcom reboot with a glam cam, alternate skins, a creation kit for fans etc.
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EshTending bar. FFXIV. Motorcycles.Portland, ORRegistered Userregular
Does any employee payroll come out of Kickstarting at all? If so, I don't see the issue. If they get paid, and then fans continue to fund subsequent projects, it should all work out.
Well the biggest part of a 'success' is breaking even and moving into profits. If you frontload all the people paying for the game into funding the game, then as long as you release without going over budget you've at least broken even. Any sale after that point is profit.
Putting this out on Steam should give me a good audience, too, as long as their price point isn't ridiculous.
Does any employee payroll come out of Kickstarting at all? If so, I don't see the issue. If they get paid, and then fans continue to fund subsequent projects, it should all work out.
Yes but kickstarter represents a huge opportunity for devs to advance their creative control and health of their company. Creating or in this case fostering an IP can do crazy things for a company. Bethesda having the elder scrolls allows them to perform necromancy on Fallout, im hoping that Borderlands will have a similar effect on duke nukem.
The point being, so much of the gaming landscape is chasing whats popular and shitting out clones of those games, this hurts the gaming community as a whole. Innovation is stifled because its hard to get funding for something new, or worse considered no longer profitable. Success here can lead to a healthier more dynamic gaming community and that is exciting.
Working 70 hr weeks on your baby is so much different than FPS clone number76231074... maybe im taking this too personally
Hrm. I wish the $50 box version also came with a digital download...
I'd hope it does and they just missed out the 'previous reward+' bit at the start of the description.
Yeah, except that the $100 box explicitly says also comes w/ a digital version.
yeah that does seem kind of weird... id bump to 65 if it got me both my box and a digital download
In the FAQ at the bottom of their Kickstart page:
I am a collector, can I get a digital copy with my Large Box Copy so I don't have to open the box?
Due to popular demand, the $50 pledge for the Large Box Copy now also comes with a Digial Download copy of the game. We understand the collector mindset!
1st ever "Penny-Arcade Hero Academy Tournament" Toilet Bowl Champion!
"You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should."
Hrm. I wish the $50 box version also came with a digital download...
I'd hope it does and they just missed out the 'previous reward+' bit at the start of the description.
Yeah, except that the $100 box explicitly says also comes w/ a digital version.
yeah that does seem kind of weird... id bump to 65 if it got me both my box and a digital download
Brew noticed that a digital copy is in fact included but for the Order of the Stick Kickstart, they seemed to have people getting multiple reward levels like that. I don't think the system really handles it because the writer was asking people to include a message about what they wanted for their dollars.
(Please do not gift. My game bank is already full.)
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Alfred J. Kwakis it because you were insultedwhen I insulted your hair?Registered Userregular
And now Felicia Day has retweeted someone linking to the kickstarter page.
i had completely forgotten she was in new vegas and she only has what... almost 2 million followers
poor brian fargo only has 1,843.... i think the answer here is clear.
brian needs to get a nice pair of tits
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Linespider5ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGERRegistered Userregular
Man, I think I might want the full box dealie with the map and I don't even have anything to play the game on.
I could just hold it and now the whole game is in the box, ready at any time for me...
So what's with the blood sausage thing? That's just what you colonials call black pudding, right?
"Explodes like a blood sausage".
It's a descriptive flavor text when you kill someone.
Get off my lawn.
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I just hope that the whole audience for the game won't end up kickstartering, since people need to buy it after its made too!
I'm still debating donation level. $10k reward is really appealing, but I'm on the other side of the country, so going to that party would cost a lot too.
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Alfred J. Kwakis it because you were insultedwhen I insulted your hair?Registered Userregular
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you're not really donating, you're essentially pre-ordering (with bonuses)
I don't think many people realize just how much Fallout was a remake of Wasteland. I often here "minor references" or "inspired by." Screw that.
I was about the biggest Wasteland fan that ever was. Playing through Fallout, I knew I was playing a full-fledged remake. Characters, weapons, armor, quests, cities, mechanics... all of them received a full re-surfacing, changing details and labels and such, but at their core they were all nearly identical in 1987 and 1997. First quest in Wasteland? Repair the water purifier and Highpool Camp. First quest in Fallout? Vault 13's water chip. And it just continues in parallel from there.
So for me, Fallout 2 was Wasteland 2. I mean, I bought Fountain of Dreams. It was real hard to get into. I wanted a Wasteland 2 so badly that in order to make peace I had to tell myself that Fallout 2 was Wasteland 2. And to this day I play Fallout games with the full belief that I am playing the Wasteland series.
That being said, anyone who ever played Wasteland in the 80s, and liked it, better donate at least $10. I'll be doing at least $100. If Fargo and the rest of the original dev team are calling this the true Wasteland 2, and if they are trying to resurrect the party-based RPG, then so be it. Want.
Holy cow I'm seriously thinking of trying to do one of the $1,000+ levels. Those rewards give me tingles.
Once the introductions have been made, the Big Boss pulls out a box of
cigars and passes them around, explaining that it is his special blend, grown
somewhere further north. When everyone is comfortable, and the bodyguards
have taken up unobtrusive positions behind you, he begins to talk.
"You must be the Rangers sent to help."
"What do you mean?" you cautiously ask.
"One of my men is missing. We don't think he's dead, because he's too valuable
to kill. We think some other group in town has grabbed him. If we don't
get him back, the whole town will probably be overrun by these damn death
machines that have started to appear, because he's the only one in town with the
scientic know-how to get them. He's the one who thought of the landmines,
and they've destroyed more robots than anything else in town." Brygo reaches
into his desk and brings out a drawing of a rather ordinary looking man. This
is Max," he explains. "He came to us about a year ago from the Wasteland
to the east. He was the greatest hand-to-hand fighter we'd ever seen and he
also seemed to know a lot about the science from before the War. He didn't
remember where he came from at least, that's what he told us. I quickly made
him my right hand man."
"When we began to hear rumors of death machines coming out of the west,
and especially when the rest of them reached the Vegas borders several weeks
ago, Max grew frantic. He began to talk crazy, about how all life was in peril,
and how only he could save us. He said he needed special equipment, and that
someone near Vegas should have it. I should have put a guard on him then, but
instead, I decided to send Ace out to look for help. One night Max disappeared.
We've been looking for him ever since without success. Now I've lost my best
man, and things are getting worse. Newer and stronger robotic death machines
are appearing all the time. If we don't find Max soon, even a fortress like this
may not be able to hold out against the death machines. Go see Charmaine in
the Mushroom Church. Tell her I sent you and she may be able to help."
You nod your head. "Yeah. We've tangled with some of these death machines
before, and we gotta stop whoever's making them. Any clues?"
"There are two other power groups here in Vegas that we know of. Fat Freddy
runs the criminal element. He'd like to take over my position. There's also the
Servants of the Mushroom Cloud religious fanatics who won't be happy until
every person in Vegas has been converted to their own poisonous religion. There
may be others. Vegas is a big town. But those are the ones we suspect most. I
need you to go find Max. What do you say? Will you do it?"
The Desert Rangers huddle for a few minutes. You decide that taking on this
mission could be quite an adventure and decide to go for it. Besides, your
curiosity has been aroused. You are sure that Max knows a lot more than he
has told Brygo. If you want explanations, he's the man you'll need to see.
"All right," you tell the Boss,
"we'll find him if he's findable. In the meantime,
you try to hold out here."
The Big Boss stands up, shakes your hands, and wishes you all luck. Then he
shows you the way out.
The massive Scorpitron, a tank with an armored warrior, is by far the deadliest robot the Desert Rangers will have to face in post holocaust Las Vegas. With an automatic tail-mounted cannon, tons of armour and significant resistance, it can destroy an unprepared party in just a few turns. Unprepared Rangers will not survive.
It is recommended to engage the Scorpitron at maximum distance and pelt it with rockets, laser arms and other high end weaponry to wear down its armour and blow it to kingdom come.
The first time i finished this sucker with the last guy of my party, whilst the rest was scattered mortally wounded. And dead IS PERMANENT in this one.
It found its death by being torn apart by a crowbar after hurling countless grenades and firing two dozend LAW rockets into it, a move of pure desperation.
Even more surprising everybody survived, because by an incredible stroke of luck i managed to avoid all encounters and mines on the way to the doc.
The NIGHT TERROR
The Director, a handsome, slender man, waves you to chairs that face
his desk. Beyond his desk you see a window into an alien landscape. Through
the window you see a red world with strangely-shaped plants. You see animals
slinking through the shadows and crawling across massive rock outcroppings.
You shudder. It just doesn't feel right.
The Director, Irwin John Finster, notices your stare and smiles like a snake oil
salesman. "I see you've noticed my pet project. This is how the world will be
when all men are gone. It will once again return to the pristine paradise it was
before man rose up and destroyed it."
He turns away from the window and smiles at you. "By the very fact that
you are here, I know you have recovered certain items of a technical nature.
Whatever prompted you to violate this base's security, I do not know, but I am
willing to forgive it." He sits, leans back and steeples his fingers. "Because of
the delicate nature of our work here all very hush-hush, you know I must
ask you to leave."
Suddenly he leans forward and scowls. "If you do not want to go, well, we are
not without means to deal with even the likes of dreaded Desert Rangers."
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5'000 in 5 min.
edit: also pppllllz get funded on day one
Anyway, 55'000
Why
perhaps we should send C2B in for a tune up, sadly my repair skill and science skill are too low
Edit: 1'000 backers reached.
Anyway, the mad rush out of the gate is good to see but also completely to be expected. The telling time will be how far they have got and what kind of pace they are keeping after 24hrs.
Since the donation speed has improved I'm switching to higher numbers now.
We don't need live updates. People can go to the Kickstarter page to see the numbers.
Or that.
Anyway, if anyone's wondering if they can use Steam since the Kickstarter mentions "DRM-Free". Yes, according to this faq:
Also you have to pledge an additional $15 for international shipping.
Kinda funny video, but he definitely doesn't have the charisma of Tim. Oh, and Jason Anderson looks like he'll kill me and make a skin suit if I don't pledge.
But, as a fan of Interplay in the 80s, how can I not pledge? I was a teenager when most of these games came out.
Ok different note, im curious to see what kind sales numbers kickstarter backed projects are going to have. As an example what makes a successful release of a game.
For an independently funded game selling 100k copies should be considered a smashing success. But look at doublefine, they are giving out 80k copies of the game to backers, so you need to be considered a huge success to make actually make a profit (200k).
But when you kickstart a game you are tapping your target audience, normally for an indy game getting 100k units sold is a smashing success. But when your core audience are your backers (doublefine for instance) 80k copies are already promised to fans.
It is basically a gamble on your value of a name (as opposed to a publisher or an IP and its history), if the game flops you are severely comprised among your community of fans, and they are not likely to come back. Even rampant success doesnt exactly mean you can bring your IP to a publisher for another sequel.
I am expecting around 75k backers for wasteland, but what kind of secondary market will there be for this game. I hope they can sexy it up for the kids similiar to the Xcom reboot with a glam cam, alternate skins, a creation kit for fans etc.
Steam profile.
Getting started with BATTLETECH: Part 1 / Part 2
Putting this out on Steam should give me a good audience, too, as long as their price point isn't ridiculous.
I'd hope it does and they just missed out the 'previous reward+' bit at the start of the description.
Yes but kickstarter represents a huge opportunity for devs to advance their creative control and health of their company. Creating or in this case fostering an IP can do crazy things for a company. Bethesda having the elder scrolls allows them to perform necromancy on Fallout, im hoping that Borderlands will have a similar effect on duke nukem.
The point being, so much of the gaming landscape is chasing whats popular and shitting out clones of those games, this hurts the gaming community as a whole. Innovation is stifled because its hard to get funding for something new, or worse considered no longer profitable. Success here can lead to a healthier more dynamic gaming community and that is exciting.
Working 70 hr weeks on your baby is so much different than FPS clone number76231074... maybe im taking this too personally
126'000!
Yeah, except that the $100 box explicitly says also comes w/ a digital version.
Steam profile.
Getting started with BATTLETECH: Part 1 / Part 2
yeah that does seem kind of weird... id bump to 65 if it got me both my box and a digital download
In the FAQ at the bottom of their Kickstart page:
I am a collector, can I get a digital copy with my Large Box Copy so I don't have to open the box?
Due to popular demand, the $50 pledge for the Large Box Copy now also comes with a Digial Download copy of the game. We understand the collector mindset!
"You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here.
And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should."
Brew noticed that a digital copy is in fact included but for the Order of the Stick Kickstart, they seemed to have people getting multiple reward levels like that. I don't think the system really handles it because the writer was asking people to include a message about what they wanted for their dollars.
(Please do not gift. My game bank is already full.)
that was probably Notch, given his twitter response
My Backloggery
i had completely forgotten she was in new vegas
poor brian fargo only has 1,843.... i think the answer here is clear.
brian needs to get a nice pair of tits
I could just hold it and now the whole game is in the box, ready at any time for me...
Wait, that sounds weird.
But I do want that map.
"Explodes like a blood sausage".
It's a descriptive flavor text when you kill someone.
Get off my lawn.
I'm still debating donation level. $10k reward is really appealing, but I'm on the other side of the country, so going to that party would cost a lot too.
I was about the biggest Wasteland fan that ever was. Playing through Fallout, I knew I was playing a full-fledged remake. Characters, weapons, armor, quests, cities, mechanics... all of them received a full re-surfacing, changing details and labels and such, but at their core they were all nearly identical in 1987 and 1997. First quest in Wasteland? Repair the water purifier and Highpool Camp. First quest in Fallout? Vault 13's water chip. And it just continues in parallel from there.
So for me, Fallout 2 was Wasteland 2. I mean, I bought Fountain of Dreams. It was real hard to get into. I wanted a Wasteland 2 so badly that in order to make peace I had to tell myself that Fallout 2 was Wasteland 2. And to this day I play Fallout games with the full belief that I am playing the Wasteland series.
That being said, anyone who ever played Wasteland in the 80s, and liked it, better donate at least $10. I'll be doing at least $100. If Fargo and the rest of the original dev team are calling this the true Wasteland 2, and if they are trying to resurrect the party-based RPG, then so be it. Want.
Holy cow I'm seriously thinking of trying to do one of the $1,000+ levels. Those rewards give me tingles.
Once the introductions have been made, the Big Boss pulls out a box of
cigars and passes them around, explaining that it is his special blend, grown
somewhere further north. When everyone is comfortable, and the bodyguards
have taken up unobtrusive positions behind you, he begins to talk.
"You must be the Rangers sent to help."
"What do you mean?" you cautiously ask.
"One of my men is missing. We don't think he's dead, because he's too valuable
to kill. We think some other group in town has grabbed him. If we don't
get him back, the whole town will probably be overrun by these damn death
machines that have started to appear, because he's the only one in town with the
scientic know-how to get them. He's the one who thought of the landmines,
and they've destroyed more robots than anything else in town." Brygo reaches
into his desk and brings out a drawing of a rather ordinary looking man. This
is Max," he explains. "He came to us about a year ago from the Wasteland
to the east. He was the greatest hand-to-hand fighter we'd ever seen and he
also seemed to know a lot about the science from before the War. He didn't
remember where he came from at least, that's what he told us. I quickly made
him my right hand man."
"When we began to hear rumors of death machines coming out of the west,
and especially when the rest of them reached the Vegas borders several weeks
ago, Max grew frantic. He began to talk crazy, about how all life was in peril,
and how only he could save us. He said he needed special equipment, and that
someone near Vegas should have it. I should have put a guard on him then, but
instead, I decided to send Ace out to look for help. One night Max disappeared.
We've been looking for him ever since without success. Now I've lost my best
man, and things are getting worse. Newer and stronger robotic death machines
are appearing all the time. If we don't find Max soon, even a fortress like this
may not be able to hold out against the death machines. Go see Charmaine in
the Mushroom Church. Tell her I sent you and she may be able to help."
You nod your head. "Yeah. We've tangled with some of these death machines
before, and we gotta stop whoever's making them. Any clues?"
"There are two other power groups here in Vegas that we know of. Fat Freddy
runs the criminal element. He'd like to take over my position. There's also the
Servants of the Mushroom Cloud religious fanatics who won't be happy until
every person in Vegas has been converted to their own poisonous religion. There
may be others. Vegas is a big town. But those are the ones we suspect most. I
need you to go find Max. What do you say? Will you do it?"
The Desert Rangers huddle for a few minutes. You decide that taking on this
mission could be quite an adventure and decide to go for it. Besides, your
curiosity has been aroused. You are sure that Max knows a lot more than he
has told Brygo. If you want explanations, he's the man you'll need to see.
"All right," you tell the Boss,
"we'll find him if he's findable. In the meantime,
you try to hold out here."
The Big Boss stands up, shakes your hands, and wishes you all luck. Then he
shows you the way out.
The massive Scorpitron, a tank with an armored warrior, is by far the deadliest robot the Desert Rangers will have to face in post holocaust Las Vegas. With an automatic tail-mounted cannon, tons of armour and significant resistance, it can destroy an unprepared party in just a few turns. Unprepared Rangers will not survive.
It is recommended to engage the Scorpitron at maximum distance and pelt it with rockets, laser arms and other high end weaponry to wear down its armour and blow it to kingdom come.
The first time i finished this sucker with the last guy of my party, whilst the rest was scattered mortally wounded. And dead IS PERMANENT in this one.
It found its death by being torn apart by a crowbar after hurling countless grenades and firing two dozend LAW rockets into it, a move of pure desperation.
Even more surprising everybody survived, because by an incredible stroke of luck i managed to avoid all encounters and mines on the way to the doc.
The NIGHT TERROR
The Director, a handsome, slender man, waves you to chairs that face
his desk. Beyond his desk you see a window into an alien landscape. Through
the window you see a red world with strangely-shaped plants. You see animals
slinking through the shadows and crawling across massive rock outcroppings.
You shudder. It just doesn't feel right.
The Director, Irwin John Finster, notices your stare and smiles like a snake oil
salesman. "I see you've noticed my pet project. This is how the world will be
when all men are gone. It will once again return to the pristine paradise it was
before man rose up and destroyed it."
He turns away from the window and smiles at you. "By the very fact that
you are here, I know you have recovered certain items of a technical nature.
Whatever prompted you to violate this base's security, I do not know, but I am
willing to forgive it." He sits, leans back and steeples his fingers. "Because of
the delicate nature of our work here all very hush-hush, you know I must
ask you to leave."
Suddenly he leans forward and scowls. "If you do not want to go, well, we are
not without means to deal with even the likes of dreaded Desert Rangers."
I hope it fares better than Fountain of Dreams...