Game of Assholes, Season 2! The night is dark and full of spoilers

Nerdgasmic

I wanted to see the tower of joy flashback

Rolo

you're never getting that

Nerdgasmic

it's all because of you, isn't it

Hobnail

No one will ever see Howland Reed.

Rolo

pretty much, yes

we cut those scenes for more JOFFTIME

Nerdgasmic

I just love the idea that all of the glorious, chivalrous heroes in westeros are dead or elderly

really reinforces its grim tone

Fyndir

Raijin Quickfoot wrote: »

I'd rather hear The Bear and the Maiden Fair.

There's at least two points in the books where it gets sung and a POV character is there to hear it, I think?

Book...er...2 or 3, I think?

Spoiler:

It is sung to cover Sansa telling Margarey and her grandmother about Joffrey, and again by Hot Pie and the outlaws after the escape from Harrenhall, if memory serves?

Sassori

Turambar wrote: »

It looked like he approved of her thinly veiled threat

At least so far as he found it amusing. But she's treading dangerous ground and she knows it.

I really enjoyed that scene a lot. Can't wait for more of them.

Romanian My Escutcheon

Howland Reed is Keyser Söze.

SwissLion

Kevin Spacey should play Howland Reed.

I think he could pull off Swamp-Man.

Squall

Nerdgasmic wrote: »

I just love the idea that all of the glorious, chivalrous heroes in westeros are dead or elderly

really reinforces its grim tone

the vibe i got from the books was the idea that those glorious, chivalrous heroes werent really glorious or chivalrous

they're just remembered and sang of as such

Romanian My Escutcheon

Keep in mind, every time they mention Jaehaerys the Conciliator (Good), they also mention Aegon the Conqueror (Bad), Baelor the Blessed (Worse), and Maegor the Cruel (Self-Explanatory).

Seems pretty indicative of the ratio of Cool Dudes to Assholes in Westeros.

Squall

really that idea is sansa's entire character arc

SimBen

Skull Man wrote: »

when they introduce him in season 1 he's butchering a deer the entire time he's berating jamie

which led to a joke I made about a fat little stereotypical king, all white beard and ermine robe, who blunders in during the monologue all "Jamie! My most precious son, pride of my life!" and then shoos off Tywin by like jabbing at him with his scepter all "Get out of here, you butcher! Back to your butching!"

"Wherever whores go!"

Romanian My Escutcheon

Rose Leslie (Ygritte) did an interview thing, apparently.

thorgot

have they even done any flashbacks

i can't remember any

Raijin Quickfoot

thorgot wrote: »

have they even done any flashbacks

i can't remember any

I don't think so. The show is heavy on exposition instead.

Rolo

thorgot wrote: »

have they even done any flashbacks

i can't remember any

I don't think so.

Schadenfreude

The closest they came to it is when Ned's watching Arya spar with Syrio and he gets a far off look on his face and we start to hear the sounds of real swords instead of practice blades. Which is hardly specific.

SimBen

He was flashing back to that time he was in Thailand with Bai Ling and he got a tattoo

Legba

Raijin Quickfoot wrote: »

I'd rather hear The Bear and the Maiden Fair.

Hobnail

SimBen wrote: »

He was flashing back to that time he was in Thailand with Bai Ling and he got a tattoo

Fuck. Off.

Kana

Back when the first previews were coming out, there was a shot of what must've been Ned's brother and father getting killed in the throne room. But it never showed up, presumably they decided to not do any flashbacks as a creative choice. Which is probably the smartest thing to do, just like the books the TV show profits from characters' claims about the past being undependable, and flashbacks tend to imply truth unless you get all Rashomon-y. And besides, why show flashbacks when you've got a cast this good? The story's not about what really happened during the rebellion, it's about how the characters now are shaped by it.

JustTee

Kana wrote: »

Back when the first previews were coming out, there was a shot of what must've been Ned's brother and father getting killed in the throne room. But it never showed up, presumably they decided to not do any flashbacks as a creative choice. Which is probably the smartest thing to do, just like the books the TV show profits from characters' claims about the past being undependable, and flashbacks tend to imply truth unless you get all Rashomon-y. And besides, why show flashbacks when you've got a cast this good? The story's not about what really happened during the rebellion, it's about how the characters now are shaped by it.

Book 2 / 3 Spoilers:

Spoiler:

A lot of the back story gets filled in in the later parts of book 2 and book 3, so we might not be there yet. Jaime telling his story to Brienne is really the first time we hear more than "Elia and her children were smashed on the rocks by the Mountain" type thing. And really, until we get to Oberyn in Book 3, with Tyrion talking to Tywin about those last moments of the previous kingdom, we don't really hear the Lannister side of things. So it's possible they shot a lot of that flashback stuff to be used later.

I think it could be used pretty effectively to help out with Jaime's back story, but I'll wait and see how they chose to do it.

JustTee

Nobody excited about tonight's episode I guess?

Schide

JustTee wrote: »

Nobody excited about tonight's episode I guess?

Nope.

Considering I won't be able to watch it until friday night.

Comradebot

Alright folks, TONIGHT:

Spoiler:

Let us all pray that Joffrey gets hit with the turd... which henceforth shall be known as "The Turd of Destiny".

Sassori

I'm excited. Even though I should be writing a paper instead of watching any television.

Triiipledot

When do they steal her dragons in the books?

ShoddySplint

Spoiler:

They don't. Honestly, the fact that the show is willing to go off the rails of the books is part of what keeps it interesting for me.

I thought the bit about Jaime being dyslexic was a nice touch though.

cj iwakura

I thought that was weird that I didn't remember that.

Great ep. (Tangent: wow Veep is profane.)

Comradebot

Okay: someone update the animated GIF of Joffrey getting slapped.

Spoiler:

We need Tyrion's newest slap, and end it with Joff being struck by the Turd of Destiny.

Triiipledot

I get that they stray from books and I'm ok with that, I like some of the changes.

I'm wondering where they are gonna go with that, will it bring in some characters we've yet to see.

Kana

yeah, them changing bits of the qarth storyline is just totally A-OK with me.

It's like the least memorable sequence in the whole series for me

override367

It's a plot vehicle to get Dany to the house of the undying quickly

Works for me!

Kana

Heh, best new nickname

Catelyn Cockblock

Comradebot

Also, the actress playing Ygritte looks super cute. I think I officially have a crush.

Raijin Quickfoot

Comradebot wrote: »

Also, the actress playing Ygritte looks super cute. I think I officially have a crush.

You should totes send her a letter.

Raijin Quickfoot

NYMPHADORA TONKS!!!

Raijin Quickfoot

Wait, wait...

real spoiler

Spoiler:

Do the dragons get stolen in the books? I have no recollection of this happening