[Battlefield 3] LOCK PLEASE

Squabman

I have been destroying helicopters all day with the tank. ALL DAY.

wakkawa

My experience is this.

Get in a tank. Get killed by TV missles which is 1 hit kill.

Try stingers. ECM faster than I can lock on.

It has gotten to BF2 levels of bullshit. The only way to kill them is to ram them with something.

Mulletude

There is plenty you can do to a helo.

wakkawa

You say that, but I don't believe you.

Shitty pilots probably.

Mulletude

How do you figure? Jets are really the best weapon against helo's. Barring that, CITV or SOFLAM and Javelins work well. ECM jammer can make that difficult but if the guy locking is persistent and you have multiple people firing Javs than it works out pretty well. The constant locking, if nothing else, keeps the pilot low to the ground and out of the fight.

wakkawa

I have no idea how you manage to do that on xbox. Even with the increased player count and chat it's impossible to get pubs to use javelins.

And the worst map is sharqi. Especially if you are on the US side.

Blendtec

Going to assume you've never played Wake Island then.

Pubs are dying to use javelins, it's a lack of recon using soflams. In the off chance they do, they set it up in some far off corner of the map facing away from the action and don't understand why it's not working.

Mulletude

wakkawa wrote: »

I have no idea how you manage to do that on xbox. Even with the increased player count and chat it's impossible to get pubs to use javelins.

And the worst map is sharqi. Especially if you are on the US side.

If you are playing with nothing but pubs, than forget what I said. At that point, figure out a way to get airborne and chase them down.

MayGodHaveMercy

Scaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.

MayGodHaveMercy

Mulletude wrote: »

There is plenty you can do to a helo.

I don't have any awesome AA weapons yet, but I get a lot of lock-ons with my IGLA. And then I get ECM'd or Flared. And by the time I'm ready to fire again, they are ready to flare again. It seems like, short of one combination of classes working together, there are really zero ground based threats to aircraft. So, in my (extremely limited) experience, the guy with the helicopter is untouchable.

Mulletude

MayGodHaveMercy wrote: »

Mulletude wrote: »

There is plenty you can do to a helo.

I don't have any awesome AA weapons yet, but I get a lot of lock-ons with my IGLA. And then I get ECM'd or Flared. And by the time I'm ready to fire again, they are ready to flare again. It seems like, short of one combination of classes working together, there are really zero ground based threats to aircraft. So, in my (extremely limited) experience, the guy with the helicopter is untouchable.

The Igla and stinger are worthless. That's just my opinion. Bringing down any air vehicle from the ground requires teamwork and coordination. Or just hope your pilots are the better ones.

MayGodHaveMercy

Mulletude wrote: »

MayGodHaveMercy wrote: »

Mulletude wrote: »

There is plenty you can do to a helo.

I don't have any awesome AA weapons yet, but I get a lot of lock-ons with my IGLA. And then I get ECM'd or Flared. And by the time I'm ready to fire again, they are ready to flare again. It seems like, short of one combination of classes working together, there are really zero ground based threats to aircraft. So, in my (extremely limited) experience, the guy with the helicopter is untouchable.

The Igla and stinger are worthless. That's just my opinion. Bringing down any air vehicle from the ground requires teamwork and coordination. Or just hope your pilots are the better ones.

My pilots are never the better ones.

Mulletude

Sounds like you need more PA duders to play with. When I play by myself, I just get to the realization that barring good luck, my team mates wont be willing to coordinate.

Mr.Sunshine

"Vehicles are too fucking strong!"

Several SOFLAM & Javelins later...

"Vehicles are fucking useless!"

and sometimes its...

"Vehicles are too fucking strong and useless!"

Then the cycles continues.

wakkawa

Which is honestly the problem. There is no middle ground. You are either fine or fucked.

Remove laser targeting, buff 50 cals. Problem solved.

emp123

wakkawa wrote: »

Which is honestly the problem. There is no middle ground. You are either fine or fucked.

Remove laser targeting, buff 50 cals. Problem solved.

Laser des is fine, but maybe they should reduce the damage buff it gives?

Honk

Sniper rifles or LMG's are the best ground based anti helicopter weapons. I used to think only sniper rifles worked but then I managed to take a pilot out with an M249.

Low hovering actually makes targetting pilots pretty trivial if they don't move laterally.

Even more before when engineers could turn the little bird into invincibird - that windshield though is gigantic.

Satsumomo

emp123 wrote: »

wakkawa wrote: »

Which is honestly the problem. There is no middle ground. You are either fine or fucked.

Remove laser targeting, buff 50 cals. Problem solved.

Laser des is fine, but maybe they should reduce the damage buff it gives?

And the range.

QQsomeMore

Arcadians, ASSEMBLE! To the Angry Dome... Lets get SOME use out of it, ya know?

AF-IX

As they say on some foreign lands...

Pinche homosexuales...vamos al Dome!

Translation: Da DOOOOME!!!

Archsorcerer

Dude, don't do that. Keep it classy.

McWhat

I took a break from MMOs to make a video. It's my first, be gentle.

Mulletude

I like it. A little bit of everything that I love about BF3.

I love dropping a helo with an RPG.

kaliyama

PC game anyone?

Mulletude

Had a crazy game with the MASS Dart on Damavand. 31 kills with the thing alone. Those side tunnels were bathed in blood.

0Replace4Displace

Cannot wait for them to fix the MASS and then catastrophically fuck up something else in the process.

DICE SNAFUs are the best.

Sonork

McWhat wrote: »

I took a break from MMOs to make a video. It's my first, be gentle.

Video was great! Entertaining!

McWhat

Mulletude wrote: »

I like it. A little bit of everything that I love about BF3.

I love dropping a helo with an RPG.

Sonork wrote: »

McWhat wrote: »

I took a break from MMOs to make a video. It's my first, be gentle.

Video was great! Entertaining!

Fantastic.

DarkMecha

I quite enjoyed that McWhat!

Mulletude

0Replace4Displace wrote: »

Cannot wait for them to fix the MASS and then catastrophically fuck up something else in the process.

DICE SNAFUs are the best.

I have to force myself not to use it. It's like turning on easy mode.

emp123

0Replace4Displace wrote: »

Cannot wait for them to fix the MASS and then catastrophically fuck up something else in the process.

DICE SNAFUs are the best.

In the mean time, reporting every motherfucker who kills me with it. Because seriously, fuck that bug.

Movitz

Cobalt60 wrote: »

DietarySupplement wrote: »

Movitz wrote: »

How to troll snipers.

1. Get in jeep.
2. Drive towards dudebro at decent speed.
3. Exit vehicle.
4. Profit.
(5. Goto 1. until bored.)

Or use the AN94 with a 4x.

You can't kill snipers on your own team with the AN94.

Yeah, this.

Killing enemies isn't trolling, that's playing the game. I meant how to get rid of your own hill humpers.

Satsumomo

Pssst!



Press and hold backwards to fast-deploy your chute.

TOGSolid

Satsumomo wrote: »

Pssst!



Press and hold backwards to fast-deploy your chute.

Say what?

Also hey look, a page where Wakkawa is complaining about vehicles. Shoulda cancelled your preorder like the rest of us yo.

Satsumomo

Anyone want to grind 5 wins in SQDM with me?

MayGodHaveMercy

Scat, where are you?

Also, question... what's the best way to get heli-piloting practice? Find a big empty server somewhere?


EDIT: Lulz. I found a flight practice server. I'm uh... pretty bad at this.

Spanish Inquisition

Watch some youtube video explaining how to fly/land, figure out the controls, and start creating situations where you have to be excellent to survive (Disabled chopper repaired to 99 health, running into trees, trying to pass under signs, dive bombing the ground, speeding around at 5 feet, all that stuff.) Most important are practice strafe runs, evasions, and quickly holding steady for gunners then running.
Get unlocks by capping points in empty ranked servers and do all the crazy stunts in unranked servers, Caspian is the best map for both.

I just did this and it was pretty easy once you have the basics and an empty server to get a feel for it. Now time for the TV missile and jets!

TOGSolid

MayGodHaveMercy wrote: »

Scat, where are you?

Also, question... what's the best way to get heli-piloting practice? Find a big empty server somewhere?

EDIT: Lulz. I found a flight practice server. I'm uh... pretty bad at this.

1.)Get BF1942
2.)Install the Desert Combat mod
3.)Practice the Helos offline against some lulzy bots (mostly just to have moving target practice)
4.)Be the best fucking chopper pilot in the world in every other game because DC's choppers were ultra-maneuverable and super twitchy and made you into a god damn man. You haven't lived until you've done barrel rolls in a little bird down a crumbling urban street 10 feet off the ground.

onesixty2

MayGodHaveMercy wrote: »

Scat, where are you?

Also, question... what's the best way to get heli-piloting practice? Find a big empty server somewhere?


EDIT: Lulz. I found a flight practice server. I'm uh... pretty bad at this.

Takes a lot of time. being a gunner for a competent pilot really helps you get familiar with the sort of movements expected.

Oh, fly low. Don't be jet hunting heli. jet pilots just lols in circles then run into you.

DietarySupplement

TOGSolid wrote: »

MayGodHaveMercy wrote: »

Scat, where are you?

Also, question... what's the best way to get heli-piloting practice? Find a big empty server somewhere?

EDIT: Lulz. I found a flight practice server. I'm uh... pretty bad at this.

1.)Get BF1942
2.)Install the Desert Combat mod
3.)Practice the Helos offline against some lulzy bots (mostly just to have moving target practice)
4.)Be the best fucking chopper pilot in the world in every other game because DC's choppers were ultra-maneuverable and super twitchy and made you into a god damn man. You haven't lived until you've done barrel rolls in a little bird down a crumbling urban street 10 feet off the ground.

Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr just jump on an empty conquest server that is running Caspian and practice.