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Middle Earth [chat]

RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
edited March 2012 in Debate and/or Discourse
A spinoff of the buckets-of-dice-and-endless-tables RPG system Rolemaster, Middle Earth Roleplaying was suprisingly well suited to the fiction of the Lord of the Rings.

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This is the rather more complete Second Edition rulebook:

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but in order to make room for more game content they had to cut all the exellent character sketches from the original:

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The game system is, compared to most fantasy RPGs, extremely low magic and low powered. Combat is extremely deadly, even with high level characters, thanks to the extensive and occassionaly amusing critical hit tables.

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What you think "makes sense" has nothing to do with reality. It just has to do with your life experience. And your life experience may only be a small smidgen of reality. Possibly even a distorted account of reality at that. So what this means is that, beginning in the 20th century as our means of decoding nature became more and more powerful, we started realizing our common sense is no longer a tool to pass judgment on whether or not a scientific theory is correct. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
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  • emnmnmeemnmnme Heard about this on conservative radio:Registered User regular
    I want to cast Magic Missile.

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  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    emnmnme wrote: »
    I want to cast Magic Missile.

    indeed.

    Though, very much in keeping with the books, the game system is a really low-magic one. If you think about it, there's almost no over spell-casting in LOTR. "Magic" is a much less obvious thing.

    What you think "makes sense" has nothing to do with reality. It just has to do with your life experience. And your life experience may only be a small smidgen of reality. Possibly even a distorted account of reality at that. So what this means is that, beginning in the 20th century as our means of decoding nature became more and more powerful, we started realizing our common sense is no longer a tool to pass judgment on whether or not a scientific theory is correct. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
  • ronyaronya Arrrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    it mildly annoyed me that the described climates and the topography of Middle-Earth don't seem to line up properly

    Steam
    shryke wrote: »
    Talking to ronya is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma, that has been shit out and then eaten again by a bulldog.
  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    puts on robe and wizard hat...

    AAAAA!!! PLAAAYGUUU!!!!
  • ronyaronya Arrrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    also where did the blue and green wizards go

    where!!

    Steam
    shryke wrote: »
    Talking to ronya is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma, that has been shit out and then eaten again by a bulldog.
  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    ronya wrote: »
    it mildly annoyed me that the described climates and the topography of Middle-Earth don't seem to line up properly

    yeah. Also the map was drawn without really thinking about the actual projection it would be using from a globe.

    Middle Earth would be shaped really weird because it doesn't look weird projected onto a 2d map.

    What you think "makes sense" has nothing to do with reality. It just has to do with your life experience. And your life experience may only be a small smidgen of reality. Possibly even a distorted account of reality at that. So what this means is that, beginning in the 20th century as our means of decoding nature became more and more powerful, we started realizing our common sense is no longer a tool to pass judgment on whether or not a scientific theory is correct. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
  • ronyaronya Arrrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    brown. not green. hmm.

    Steam
    shryke wrote: »
    Talking to ronya is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma, that has been shit out and then eaten again by a bulldog.
  • KageraKagera Registered User regular
    Awwww I want a lava puppy

    “This is America. We’re entitled to our opinions.”
    “Wrong. This is Texas. And my opinion is the only one that counts."
  • SarksusSarksus playing tennisRegistered User regular
  • WinkyWinky Registered User regular
    I pick Riemann's chat because it is a chat of refinement and sophistication

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  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    ronya wrote: »
    also where did the blue and green wizards go

    where!!

    I'm reasonably sure that in some of tolkiens writings it is mentioned that several of the Istari (immortal spirits who took the form of wizards like Galdalf or Saruman) wandered off east outside the scope of the books.

    In some of the MERP sourcebooks they have some of the other Istari going bad like Saruman did and ruling petty kindoms out east.

    What you think "makes sense" has nothing to do with reality. It just has to do with your life experience. And your life experience may only be a small smidgen of reality. Possibly even a distorted account of reality at that. So what this means is that, beginning in the 20th century as our means of decoding nature became more and more powerful, we started realizing our common sense is no longer a tool to pass judgment on whether or not a scientific theory is correct. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
  • OrganichuOrganichu Registered User regular
    lotr is dumb and for terrible nerds but

    it's a well supported OP

    and honestly desc, this guy seems like a less fearsome political rival down the road

    so i'm itt for self-preservation

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  • wanderingwandering Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    ronya wrote: »
    it mildly annoyed me that the described climates and the topography of Middle-Earth don't seem to line up properly

    yeah. Also the map was drawn without really thinking about the actual projection it would be using from a globe.

    Middle Earth would be shaped really weird because it doesn't look weird projected onto a 2d map.
    Are we sure the map covers the entirety of the globe? I never thought it did.

    wandering on
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  • descdesc the '87 stick up kids Registered User regular
    Organichu wrote: »
    lotr is dumb and for terrible nerds but

    it's a well supported OP

    and honestly desc, this guy seems like a less fearsome political rival down the road

    so i'm itt for self-preservation

    sorry what was that

    I couldn't hear you over the sound of your ronnie D&D neckbearditry

    could you turn that down a little

  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    i am a chat whore
    i hold no allegiance to any one chat

    AAAAA!!! PLAAAYGUUU!!!!
  • SarksusSarksus playing tennisRegistered User regular
    I can't wait until Sim City 5 where I will inevitably contaminate the water table and my entire water source is totally fucked.

  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    wandering wrote: »
    ronya wrote: »
    it mildly annoyed me that the described climates and the topography of Middle-Earth don't seem to line up properly

    yeah. Also the map was drawn without really thinking about the actual projection it would be using from a globe.

    Middle Earth would be shaped really weird because it doesn't look weird projected onto a 2d map.
    Are we sure the map covers the entirety of the globe? I never thought it did.

    oh no, just because the north edge of the map must be reeeeally far north (it's all glaciers and permafrost). Though now that I think of it, I'm pretty sure the webpage I read about this (it was a cartographer for fun de-projecting the Tolkien maps back onto a globe) was assuming something like a Mercator projection.

    Maybe if it was one of those projections that preserve north / south lines the result wouldn't be so weird.

    What you think "makes sense" has nothing to do with reality. It just has to do with your life experience. And your life experience may only be a small smidgen of reality. Possibly even a distorted account of reality at that. So what this means is that, beginning in the 20th century as our means of decoding nature became more and more powerful, we started realizing our common sense is no longer a tool to pass judgment on whether or not a scientific theory is correct. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    Sarksus wrote: »
    I can't wait until Sim City 5 where I will inevitably contaminate the water table and my entire water source is totally fucked.

    bah, you're looking at this all wrong. Just think of it as long term subsidies to the healthcare industry.

    What you think "makes sense" has nothing to do with reality. It just has to do with your life experience. And your life experience may only be a small smidgen of reality. Possibly even a distorted account of reality at that. So what this means is that, beginning in the 20th century as our means of decoding nature became more and more powerful, we started realizing our common sense is no longer a tool to pass judgment on whether or not a scientific theory is correct. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    Organichu wrote: »
    lotr is dumb and for terrible nerds but

    it's a well supported OP

    and honestly desc, this guy seems like a less fearsome political rival down the road

    so i'm itt for self-preservation

    even if you don't like the books, the game in the OP is pretty neat if you want a fantasy RPG where the combat is super-deadly and magic is pretty rare.

    What you think "makes sense" has nothing to do with reality. It just has to do with your life experience. And your life experience may only be a small smidgen of reality. Possibly even a distorted account of reality at that. So what this means is that, beginning in the 20th century as our means of decoding nature became more and more powerful, we started realizing our common sense is no longer a tool to pass judgment on whether or not a scientific theory is correct. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    Organichu wrote: »
    lotr is dumb and for terrible nerds but
    um

    UM

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  • OrganichuOrganichu Registered User regular
    desc wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    lotr is dumb and for terrible nerds but

    it's a well supported OP

    and honestly desc, this guy seems like a less fearsome political rival down the road

    so i'm itt for self-preservation

    sorry what was that

    I couldn't hear you over the sound of your ronnie D&D neckbearditry

    could you turn that down a little

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  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    You know what's going to happen, the mods are going to shut down all three chats and commission a fourth.

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  • descdesc the '87 stick up kids Registered User regular
    alright nerds

    I have 3 books and ME3. I think ME3 might win.

  • OrganichuOrganichu Registered User regular
    actually i don't really hate lotr. i read it about 10 years ago. i remember liking it but not loving it.

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  • OrganichuOrganichu Registered User regular
    i just had to Neg this thread, is all.

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  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    books are lame as heck

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  • descdesc the '87 stick up kids Registered User regular
    Organichu wrote: »
    desc wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    lotr is dumb and for terrible nerds but

    it's a well supported OP

    and honestly desc, this guy seems like a less fearsome political rival down the road

    so i'm itt for self-preservation

    sorry what was that

    I couldn't hear you over the sound of your ronnie D&D neckbearditry

    could you turn that down a little

    2012-02-06-Matter-Of-Fatly.jpg

    okay my character is an elven ranger named Legolas

    he's handsome but distant, with a green bow

    do I roll for initiative yet

  • wanderingwandering Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Whoa there's a book hater in this [chat]? That's it I'm switching allegiances.

    wandering on
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  • MazzyxMazzyx Changing the World Order. Registered User regular
    I think the populace has migrated to this [chat].

    Also damn it people linking Jonathan Coulton because I will be bouncing around listening to him for the next 30 minutes.

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  • AManFromEarthAManFromEarth Their ideas are old and their ideas are bad. The King in the SwampRegistered User regular
    If I wanted to read I wouldn't be illiterate.

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    I think the populace has migrated to this [chat].

    Also damn it people linking Jonathan Coulton because I will be bouncing around listening to him for the next 30 minutes.

    you and your chat conservatism are not welcome here
    try mississippi chat

    dlinfiniti on
    AAAAA!!! PLAAAYGUUU!!!!
  • MazzyxMazzyx Changing the World Order. Registered User regular
    dlinfiniti wrote:
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    I think the populace has migrated to this [chat].

    Also damn it people linking Jonathan Coulton because I will be bouncing around listening to him for the next 30 minutes.

    you and your chat conservatism are not welcome here

    My interpretations of the holy [chat] scriptures are the one true interpretation. And from it we shall have a [chat] vanguard to build a new [chat] nation.

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  • descdesc the '87 stick up kids Registered User regular
    the vanguard class is only okay

    I don't know what the obsession with charge is

  • descdesc the '87 stick up kids Registered User regular
    Being an infiltrator was slow. I dunno what to be next time.

  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    desc wrote: »
    the vanguard class is only okay

    I don't know what the obsession with charge is

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  • FeralFeral Who needs a medical license when you've got style? Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    desc wrote: »
    Being an infiltrator was slow. I dunno what to be next time.

    It's great once you're upgraded enough to kill lower-level enemies with a single headshot.

    Before that it sucks.

    Feral on
    every person who doesn't like an acquired taste always seems to think everyone who likes it is faking it. it should be an official fallacy.
    the "no true scotch, man" fallacy.
  • descdesc the '87 stick up kids Registered User regular
    Elendil wrote: »
    desc wrote: »
    the vanguard class is only okay

    I don't know what the obsession with charge is

    I dunno

    I like rifles.

  • RiemannLivesRiemannLives Registered User regular
    Is infiltrator the tech + sniper rifle one? That's what I beat ME1 with.

    Early on it was all about just running in pistol a'blazin. But once you get a good sniper rifle if you crouch you can fire it from the hip without zooming in and just mess dudes up.

    What you think "makes sense" has nothing to do with reality. It just has to do with your life experience. And your life experience may only be a small smidgen of reality. Possibly even a distorted account of reality at that. So what this means is that, beginning in the 20th century as our means of decoding nature became more and more powerful, we started realizing our common sense is no longer a tool to pass judgment on whether or not a scientific theory is correct. - Neil Degrasse Tyson
  • ElendilElendil Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    desc wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    desc wrote: »
    the vanguard class is only okay

    I don't know what the obsession with charge is

    I dunno

    I like rifles.
    nobody sets shooting dudes with rifles to a song by Queen desk

    Elendil on
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  • descdesc the '87 stick up kids Registered User regular
    Elendil wrote: »
    desc wrote: »
    Elendil wrote: »
    desc wrote: »
    the vanguard class is only okay

    I don't know what the obsession with charge is

    I dunno

    I like rifles.
    nobody sets shooting dudes with rifles to a song by Queen desk

    I suppose that's true.

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