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[League of Legends] Of Yordles, Suppordles and Sort-of-Yordles

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edited March 2012 in Games and Technology
League of Legends (popularly known as LoL) is a Multiplayer Online Battle Arena (MOBA) game. With lots of acronyms, in case you couldn't tell.

It is made by Riot games and brought to you by Tiny Angry Crab
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You play as a summoner that selects a champion to battle with and against other summoners and their respective champs. During games, your champion will level up, get gold for better equipment and hopefully destroy the enemy nexus. Outside of games, your summoner level will rise. This will unlock new runes to enhance champion stats, bestow mastery points for further champion customization and goodies like avatars. At max level you can then compete in ranked matches and/or judge player behavior in what is called the tribunal.

New Player Guide

1. Make an account: NA EU (West) EU (Nordic & East)
It is worth noting that referring new players has perks, so I would ask for a referral link in the thread rather than a vanilla account.

2. Download the client: Right here
The official Mac client has been discontinued.

3. Play the tutorials! New User Guide
The game can be a bit overwhelming, and I highly suggest you play the tutorials OR find someone willing to do a few vs. AI games with you.

4. Join the "Penny Arcade" Chat Channel to find helpful people and people to escape solo queue with! Click the little double speech bubble looking thing at the bottom right of your screen. Click the + speech bubble right above it. Type in "Penny Arcade" and introduce yourself. Not everyone you see in the threat will be there, as not everyone plays on the same server.

5. Play vs. AI games with people.
Preferably people you know or from here. The bots aren't bad, but they have exploitable flaws and won't emulate the "real deal" perfectly. Focus less on the opposition and more on getting a feel for the various champions and the general flow of game.

6. Play vs. People
Do it, damn you. As said above, the AI is not going to give you the legitimate LoL experience. You don't want to hit your 20s solely from bot matches.

7. Get yer free champs.
Subscribe to Riot's Youtube and get a free Alistar skin! Includes the champion! Free Tristana if you're into the Facebook thing. Promo skins always include the champion if you never bought it.

The Dos and Don'ts of LoL

Meta Stuff
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Game Stuff
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7. Don't just wait around all day when you're in a position to win.
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Meet the Team

Like any group activity, stuff is usually broken down into roles. It's worth noting that champions don't always fit neatly in categories. A champion's role in the team may depend on what build has been chosen, and sometimes you may fill several roles depending on the group composition. When picking champions, it's a good idea to see what people are doing and fill in any holes.

1. The Carry: If your team is a car, then the carry is the engine. It's what makes the team function. The carry, when doing its job, will be able to easily destroy the whole team. But, just like an engine is useless without any other parts of your car, the carry relies on its team to get the gold necessary to buy the items needed to kill swathes of enemies. Early on, carries tend to be more vulnerable and weaker than other champs. LOTS of people pick carry in random, because it's the star character that generally gets all the kills.

2. The Tank: Following the car metaphor, the tank is your steering. It'll guide the team into battle, and in many cases will be the one starting the fights. Tanks are there to absorb damage and lock down the most dangerous champions on the enemy team so you can position yourselves to win the fight. Some tanks do this with CC, whereas other tanks have some damage and will soften up the enemy team instead. Tanks still tend to need the rest of their team to back them up.

3. The Support: I guess support are your tires or something? Maybe the AC. Either, support help the team out with buffs and generally shields or healing. Healers tend to assist the carry by allowing the carry to stay in the lane longer through said healing or shields. Unlike, well, just about everyone else, Support don't rely so much on gear and thus will purposefully AVOID getting last hits so that their lane partner can farm gold faster. Because of their reduced need of gold, support should also be buying and placing wards when needed. It's worth noting that EVERYONE should generally buy wards, but as a support you can afford to take the financial hit. FEW people pick support in random due to how hard it is to influence games. You have to be very proactive to make up for bad teammates as a carry.

4. The Jungler: Jungling is a more advanced concept, and you won't see it until higher summoner levels. This is due to runes and masteries allowing for more efficient jungling. It is still possible on a few champs, even at Summoner Level 1, but very uncommon. As the name implies, the jungler sits in the jungle and kills neutral creeps. This benefits your team by creating a second solo lane (top lane), resulting in more experience and gold for your team as a whole. Once the jungler hits a certain gear/level point, they look for opportunities to gank enemies. This is generally done via strong CC abilities, such as Warwick's ultimate or Nunu's slow coupled with his speed buff. Skills such as these will enable the jungler's teammate in that lane to easily assist with the kill. When not ganking, the jungler will return to the jungle regularly to keep up in terms of gold and experience. Due to their roaming, the jungler has plenty of opportunities to place wards for its teammates.

This is a very simple guide! There are other roles in teams, but this is a rough outline of the basics. Roles can easily overlap, and a champion can fill more than one role! Experiment and see what works and what doesn't.

Useful Stuff

Websites!
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Stuff You Should Know
-Yes, a promo skin will unlock that champion for free.
-Promo skin codes generally work once on each region. If you have used a code for yourself, don't toss it out! Make a post here and give it away or swap it for another skin.
-Speaking of promo skins, Free Tristana if you're willing to whore yourself out a bit.
--Subscribe to Riot's Youtube and get a free Alistar skin!
-Buy Wards
-Buy Wards
-When in doubt, take Flash

A useful list of terms used in game, courtesy of Cantido.
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Have you scored a penta?
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Previous thread: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/156016/league-of-legends-fiora-french-fencing-femme-fatale-frequently-fights-fools-for-fun/p1

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  • ArikadoArikado Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    Curious to see what these supposed Lee Sin/Udyr nerfs are all about.

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  • SampsenSampsen Registered User regular
    Where did you hear about nerfs? I'm kind of surprised they're going to nerf Udyr again, I thought he was in a good place.

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  • ArikadoArikado Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Streaming a PA group game.

    http://www.twitch.tv/venganza01

    EDIT: It was on CLG's Riot tracker of someone complaining about the early ganking power and top lane prowess of those two guys. A Riot red said they would be tuning them down.

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  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    OH MAN

    safari caitlyn on sale

    yessssss

  • I needed a name to post.I needed a name to post. seeing exactly how things really areRegistered User regular
    Sampsen wrote: »
    Where did you hear about nerfs? I'm kind of surprised they're going to nerf Udyr again, I thought he was in a good place.

    http://clgaming.net/redtracker/30858-morello-i-have-a-lot-of-hateful-complaints-for-you-tonight

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  • ChaosHatChaosHat Registered User regular
    A Sampsen thread? This is how you know there was literally nobody else more qualified for the job.

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  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    Oh man oh man totally going to rock out the Matador Alistar.

  • SampsenSampsen Registered User regular
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    A Sampsen thread? This is how you know there was literally nobody else more qualified for the job.

    You're damn right no one else was more qualified than me. I did it because it had to be done.

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  • zerg rushzerg rush Registered User regular
    This wrote: »
    Rami wrote: »
    I believe Amumu's backstory thing confirms he is/was a Yordle before being mummified.

    Just checked, it doesn't say anything like that. He doesn't know anything about his past, he just knows that he feels sad and misses his parents though he doesn't know who they were. At least from the Lore section in the game, he could just be a kid mummy the same way Annie is a kid mage.

    He was originally a child mummy. But then RIOT thought that it would be bad if they had an undead child there, constantly crying for his parents. So for Europe they decided that he was actually a Yordle, even though the chinese art clearly shows him with an image of his parents. Then they just made him a Yordle for all zones. Officially, he's a Yordle now.

    His current text goes...
    Perhaps one of the oddest champions in the League of Legends is the Yordle known as Amumu.

  • ChaosHatChaosHat Registered User regular
    Sampsen wrote: »
    ChaosHat wrote: »
    A Sampsen thread? This is how you know there was literally nobody else more qualified for the job.

    You're damn right no one else was more qualified than me. I did it because it had to be done.

    The hoops that the deluded jump through never cease to astound me.

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  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    OH MAN

    safari caitlyn on sale

    yessssss

    ugh, when I looked at cait skins that was the one I was sure was shit - and I was right!

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  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    safari caitlyn rules

    it doesn't rule as hard as soviet russian sniper caitlyn

    but she gets an elephant gun!

  • ChaosHatChaosHat Registered User regular
    I've begun trash talking.
    Spoiler:

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  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    safari caitlyn rules

    it doesn't rule as hard as soviet russian sniper caitlyn

    but she gets an elephant gun!

    I bought sheriff caitlyn instead

    giant top hat? knee-high boots?

    she puts a whole new spin on that fuzzy cuffs line

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  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    Arivia wrote: »
    safari caitlyn rules

    it doesn't rule as hard as soviet russian sniper caitlyn

    but she gets an elephant gun!

    I bought sheriff caitlyn instead

    giant top hat? knee-high boots?

    she puts a whole new spin on that fuzzy cuffs line

    yeah that one's pretty rad too

  • SampsenSampsen Registered User regular
    Safari Caitlyn has a teacup though! So civilized.

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  • RiusRius Registered User regular
    Man, guys, if you're playing draft, don't pick Nasus for top lane when the enemy team hasn't picked their top yet.

    Because it'll be Teemo.

    And you'll preemptively be wasting 29 minutes and 54 seconds of the lives of each of your four teammates.

  • Future BluesFuture Blues Registered User
    Rius wrote: »
    Man, guys, if you're playing draft, don't pick Nasus for top lane when the enemy team hasn't picked their top yet.

    Because it'll be Teemo.

    And you'll preemptively be wasting 29 minutes and 54 seconds of the lives of each of your four teammates.

    Top seems like one of the easiest lanes to counterpick as far as I can tell. Even at average levels of play (1k+ ELO) the only lane I consistently see counterpicks happen is top.

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  • CarnarvonCarnarvon Registered User regular
    Sampsen wrote: »
    Where did you hear about nerfs? I'm kind of surprised they're going to nerf Udyr again, I thought he was in a good place.

    http://clgaming.net/redtracker/30858-morello-i-have-a-lot-of-hateful-complaints-for-you-tonight

    Lee Sin just got nerfed and literally no one gave a shit, and he still had a 75% win ratio in Hannover. Udyr top was picked once (iirc) and was an ultrapassive counter to Yorick.

    I'm personally thinking more Lee Sin nerfs.

  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    it's not just that top lane is the easiest lane to counterpick

    it's that nasus has like a fucking million bad matchups

  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    epik gaming benched dan dinh :(

  • ArikadoArikado Southern CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    Dan is the leader of Epik, no?

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  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    Arikado wrote: »
    Dan is the leader of Epik, no?

    he founded the team but i don't know if he's the "leader"

    apparently he actually stepped down and wasn't "benched"

    this post has a lot of "quotation marks in it"

  • SpectrumSpectrum Super High-School Level ??? Hope's Peak AcademyRegistered User regular
    Rius wrote: »
    Man, guys, if you're playing draft, don't pick Nasus for top lane when the enemy team hasn't picked their top yet.

    Because it'll be Teemo.

    And you'll preemptively be wasting 29 minutes and 54 seconds of the lives of each of your four teammates.

    Top seems like one of the easiest lanes to counterpick as far as I can tell. Even at average levels of play (1k+ ELO) the only lane I consistently see counterpicks happen is top.
    I see counters in mid and occasional jungle counters.

    Of course, sometimes it's a guy counterpicking himself in mid which is always hilarious.

    Like, why would you pick Malzahar when I already picked Ahri. Awful, awful idea.

  • RiusRius Registered User regular
    Does Shen beat Lee Sin, top lane, like a redheaded stepchild? 'Cause I decided to practice Shen a lot and that just happened; went 0/0/9, lol.

    Of course, I don't know why I'm practicing him because he's so routinely banned when I play draft, but that's 1250 ELO for you.

  • PMAversPMAvers You wouldn't have heard of it, anyway...Registered User regular
    I think that's just the Shen.

    Because he's still bizonkers ATM.

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  • I needed a name to post.I needed a name to post. seeing exactly how things really areRegistered User regular
    epik gaming should bench epik gaming

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  • Cucco LeaderCucco Leader Registered User regular
    I hope the AP caster item is basically an Atma's but AP. I have such a hard time justifying playing Maokai when I can do Tanky DPS Shyvana or Riven and be so much more useful.

  • I needed a name to post.I needed a name to post. seeing exactly how things really areRegistered User regular
    I hope the AP caster item is basically an Atma's but AP. I have such a hard time justifying playing Maokai when I can do Tanky DPS Shyvana or Riven and be so much more useful.

    The AP equivalent of Atma's is Archangel's Staff V:

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  • unintentionalunintentional Registered User regular
    I hope the AP caster item is basically an Atma's but AP. I have such a hard time justifying playing Maokai when I can do Tanky DPS Shyvana or Riven and be so much more useful.

    oh my god no

    if anything they should remove atmas instead of adding a new item

    i'm out, follow me on twitter @uninten , steam is GaryMyNemesis
  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    epik gaming should bench epik gaming

    i want salce to go join some other team

    cause i like salce

  • Cucco LeaderCucco Leader Registered User regular
    I hope the AP caster item is basically an Atma's but AP. I have such a hard time justifying playing Maokai when I can do Tanky DPS Shyvana or Riven and be so much more useful.

    oh my god no

    if anything they should remove atmas instead of adding a new item

    Either one. Straight up tank seems so pointless to me.

  • SpectrumSpectrum Super High-School Level ??? Hope's Peak AcademyRegistered User regular
    I hope the AP caster item is basically an Atma's but AP. I have such a hard time justifying playing Maokai when I can do Tanky DPS Shyvana or Riven and be so much more useful.

    oh my god no

    if anything they should remove atmas instead of adding a new item

    Either one. Straight up tank seems so pointless to me.
    Pure tank/cdr on characters with very, very high control or good base values still works. Leona, some J4 builds, some WW builds, etc

  • I needed a name to post.I needed a name to post. seeing exactly how things really areRegistered User regular
    they will never make an AP atma's as long as cassiopeia exists

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  • KeysierKeysier Registered User regular
    I wonder when they are going to slam Lee-sin and Cassi into the ground, Jarvan style

    Really surprised they haven't, yet, even with both characters having decent skill caps

  • WhytherWhyther Registered User regular
    I hope the AP caster item is basically an Atma's but AP. I have such a hard time justifying playing Maokai when I can do Tanky DPS Shyvana or Riven and be so much more useful.

    A lot of AP caster items already exist. Are you thinking of the AD caster item?

  • Cucco LeaderCucco Leader Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Whyther wrote: »
    I hope the AP caster item is basically an Atma's but AP. I have such a hard time justifying playing Maokai when I can do Tanky DPS Shyvana or Riven and be so much more useful.

    A lot of AP caster items already exist. Are you thinking of the AD caster item?

    My poor reading skills strike again. UGH. Seriously, forget I posted anything.

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  • RendRend Registered User regular
    Arivia wrote: »
    The only lane I could see doing that in involves a very suicidal ad carry.

    it's the standard at high elo, where it's unusual for the AD carries to be playing consistently dumb enough for either side to get a kill
    janna's job is to try and make their life bar last through as many harrass attempts as possible while they farm

    it's real boring

    Here from 1200 to 1400 though maxing w first is so good.
    It's not just that worse stuff works better at low level, it's different stuff. The stuff that high level players know how to punish, like for instance w first janna, most people don't know how.

  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    they will never make an AP atma's as long as cassiopeia exists

    There is no need. Zhonya's Hourglass, 100 AP, 50 Armor. Rlyai's 500 HP, 80 AP, RoA...

  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    there can't be an ap atmas because you already have defensive ap items

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