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X-Men: Resisting Avengers Oppression For Five Decades

Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
edited March 2012 in Graphic Violence
So, a lot of stuff has gone down (besides the mutant population) since the Regenesis and Schism events occurred. What were those two events you ask? Well, it all started with a slight disagreement between the two most iconic mutants of the Marvel Universe, Cyclops and Wolverine. You see, they got into a bit of a spat over how Cyclops was increasingly militarizing the mutant youth, and Wolverine wasn't having any of it. So, Schism happened:
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"But Witch Hunter," you say, "isn't there a picture that better encapsulates this great struggle AND that doesn't look like you only spent five minutes in Microsoft Paint using a tired old meme?"

There is!!!
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After the dust settled, Wolverine and Cyclops decided that they couldn't kiss and make-up this time and got a divorce. Half the kids stayed with mama Scott:
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And half the kids left Utopia to live with papa Logan:
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Cyclops stayed on the lavish island paradise of Utopia, while Wolverine went back to the team's roots to re-start the school in Westchester, New York. He named it the Jean Grey School for Higher Learning both as an homage to Charles Xavier's old school, and to piss off Cyclops by naming it after his dead wife, who was kinda into Logan.
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The establishment of the two rival camps roughly describes the Regenesis event. But even though the school is awesome, and the people populating it are thoroughly rad, people might argue that most of the remaining mutant population's heavy-hitters stayed with Scott on Utopia. I scoff at these words, I scoff at them heartily, because even though Scott has Magneto, Namor, Colossus-who-is-also-a-Juggernaught-now, Emma Frost (okay, we get it), Hope, Storm, The New Mutants (enough already!), Dr. Nemesis and the X-Club (GET ON WITH IT!!!!); Wolverine has two things that Cyclops will never have.

One, he's running an awesome team on the down-low you may have heard of. Oh, you know, nothing big, just an awesome Rick Remender vehicle called the Uncanny X-Force!
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And two, Wolverine has ANOTHER secret weapon on his side. A weapon that Cyclops doesn't even suspect. He's a man of little renown, of seemingly little worth, who is waiting in the wings for his chance to shine, and we all know it's going to happen, and that it'll be good and sweet when it does.
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But maybe I've said too much . . .

Finally, there are two books which are not specifically tied to either side of the Schism, but are neat and should be checked out in their own right. The first is about a little detective agency that plays loose and fast, but gets results!
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The second book I'm talking about is one that is so far removed from the normal X-Books that it takes place in another dimension. A dark place, a place where Charles Xavier died and his dream never even had a chance to live. It's also a topsy-turvey place where humans are on the run and mutants are the ones sticking it to them.
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Here the team is called the X-Terminated, made up of honest-to goodness Homo Sapiens and lead by the heroic version of the 616 universe's William Stryker. They've even picked up a few de-powered mutant allies along the way in the form of Jean Grey and Sabretooth. On the run from the evil AoA version of Wolverine, they fight for what's left of humanity.

This is the X-Thread for all things mutant. Discuss!

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  • Caveman PawsCaveman Paws Registered User regular
    X-Men Season one, who has read it and should I spend my digital money on it?

  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    I've heard good things, and it looks pretty because Jamie McKelvie and Matt Wilson are a fantastic team.

    Working off the AvX theme, I meant to suggest, "X-Men: Resisting Avengers Oppression For Five Decades"

  • Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Ya, that is a better title I think (didn't much care for the original, just something I slapped together at midnight). With your permission I will appropriate it and give you writer's credit for the OP.

    Season One is actually pretty good, I might say great. I'd recommend buying it with American dollars and reading it on assorted kindles or computer screens whole-heartedly!

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  • MatevMatev I HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE ALIVE AS I WAS SAYINGRegistered User regular
    I would also submit that Wolverine has Broo, Beast and Quentin Quire, whom outweigh many of the mutants who decided to stay with Scott.

    "Go down, kick ass, and set yourselves up as gods, that's our Prime Directive!"
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  • Man of the WavesMan of the Waves Registered User regular
    Don't forget! X-Force spawned another series from the Age of Apocalypse X-men called "Age of Apocalypse"!

    The first book was pretty great and the art is spectacular.

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    I'm sad. that last picture is a broken link so I can't see Logan's Secret Weapon.

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    Ya, that is a better title I think (didn't much care for the original, just something I slapped together at midnight). With your permission I will appropriate it and give you writer's credit for the OP.
    Yay!
    Season One is actually pretty good, I might say great. I'd recommend buying it with American dollars and reading it on assorted kindles or computer screens whole-heartedly!

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    helloooooooo Wanda!

  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    yeah no kidding

    that is a great look for her

    I hope they make that her costume going forward

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus One day I will kill a god.Registered User regular
  • Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    I'm sad. that last picture is a broken link so I can't see Logan's Secret Weapon.

    Hm, I'm seeing it just fine. Is anyone else having this problem?
    OP lacks X-Factor

    It . . . does. I was rash and careless. I also through this whole thing together in ten minutes then went to bed, this gross oversight will be corrected promptly.

    Edit: fixed!

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  • MatevMatev I HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE ALIVE AS I WAS SAYINGRegistered User regular
    I'm sad. that last picture is a broken link so I can't see Logan's Secret Weapon.

    Hm, I'm seeing it just fine. Is anyone else having this problem?

    I am. All I see is IMG_0050.jpg
    Spoiler:

    "Go down, kick ass, and set yourselves up as gods, that's our Prime Directive!"
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  • TexiKenTexiKen it's a one way street, whichever way I go Registered User regular
    I tip my hat to you, Witch Hunter, good OP.

    I read Legacy #263 last night and liked the Utopia kids telling Rogue exactly why their experiment is no different than what they've been through before, because it does a good job acknowledging that there are flaws in the Wolverine side that need to be said. Wolverine was also being too much abloo abloo about Rogue, she did the right thing. Baldeon's art is getting better and better, put him on Uncanny instead of Land please, for the love of God.

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  • ArrynArryn Ask not the Innkeeper For destiny is thy name!Registered User regular
    I'm sad. that last picture is a broken link so I can't see Logan's Secret Weapon.

    Hm, I'm seeing it just fine. Is anyone else having this problem?

    I'm also not seeing it.

  • Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
    Fixed it I believe.
    TexiKen wrote: »
    I tip my hat to you, Witch Hunter, good OP.

    I read Legacy #263 last night and liked the Utopia kids telling Rogue exactly why their experiment is no different than what they've been through before, because it does a good job acknowledging that there are flaws in the Wolverine side that need to be said. Wolverine was also being too much abloo abloo about Rogue, she did the right thing. Baldeon's art is getting better and better, put him on Uncanny instead of Land please, for the love of God.

    Why thank you!

    On the Legacy front, I liked it too and I did see Hope's point (and it is a valid one). But isn't there a difference between what Logan is trying to do in training kids to defend themselves, and what Hope is advocating in training all the remaining mutants to be soldiers?

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    now it's working for me though. hmm.

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  • TexiKenTexiKen it's a one way street, whichever way I go Registered User regular
    Fixed it I believe.
    TexiKen wrote: »
    I tip my hat to you, Witch Hunter, good OP.

    I read Legacy #263 last night and liked the Utopia kids telling Rogue exactly why their experiment is no different than what they've been through before, because it does a good job acknowledging that there are flaws in the Wolverine side that need to be said. Wolverine was also being too much abloo abloo about Rogue, she did the right thing. Baldeon's art is getting better and better, put him on Uncanny instead of Land please, for the love of God.

    Why thank you!

    On the Legacy front, I liked it too and I did see Hope's point (and it is a valid one). But isn't there a difference between what Logan is trying to do in training kids to defend themselves, and what Hope is advocating in training all the remaining mutants to be soldiers?

    This could be debatable, but Cyclops take on the kids is basically what the New Mutants were in the beginning, primarily learning their powers first, learning to fight, and education second. Cyclops is not making them be soldiers 24/7, just realizing they need to learn to fight because that's what you do these days. We saw this in Uncanny #1, the kids have their normal classes, only they get extra things like SF street patrol, which seems perfectly fine when accompanied by adults.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Cyclops is basically training child soldiers and has admitted as much

    He'll train then up and then send them in to fight

    Wolverine is trying to teach them how to defend themselves

    but figures that they are too young to fight and won't send them in

  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    I just got around to reading Uncanny 8 today.

    I was not a fan. Not of that entire storyline. I hope the Avengers teamup will be fun for a couple issues before AvX spins everything out of control.

  • Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Cyclops is basically training child soldiers and has admitted as much

    He'll train then up and then send them in to fight

    Invisiblemutantchildren.com

    A documentary by Bobby Drake

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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla Cut one head and two shall take its placeRegistered User regular
    X-Treme X-Men written by Greg Pak, written by Steven Segovia. Covers by Julian Totino Tedesco. #1 in July.
    Dazzler is at the center of this book and it spins out of Greg's Astonishing X-Men run.

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Dazzler?

    really?

    Okay, well

    I'll check it out

  • BlankzillaBlankzilla Cut one head and two shall take its placeRegistered User regular
    edited March 2012
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    Kicking off this July, Greg Pak and Stephen Segovia recruit Dazzler and a team of mutants from various worlds for reality-bending missions in X-TREME X-MEN. Stay tuned to Marvel.com for more details coming soon!

    so

    it is Exiles?

    I am okay with this.

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  • UltimateInfernoUltimateInferno Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    mor liek X-iles mrite

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus One day I will kill a god.Registered User regular
    Is Adam X going to be in it?

    Because he should be.

  • BlankzillaBlankzilla Cut one head and two shall take its placeRegistered User regular
    Dazzler is the only 616 character in the book according to Pak.

    so, maybe

  • MatevMatev I HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE ALIVE AS I WAS SAYINGRegistered User regular
    Hrm, intriguing....

    "Go down, kick ass, and set yourselves up as gods, that's our Prime Directive!"
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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla Cut one head and two shall take its placeRegistered User regular
    and really 616 Emma Frost should just use that costume it is way better

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus One day I will kill a god.Registered User regular
    616 Emma would not be caught dead in a tube top

  • BlankzillaBlankzilla Cut one head and two shall take its placeRegistered User regular
    Yes because this
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    is so much classier

  • AntimatterAntimatter if you want to talk to me look elsewhere.Registered User regular
    where do her nipples even go in that costume

  • Witch_Hunter_84Witch_Hunter_84 Registered User regular
    Jesus Christ!
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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla Cut one head and two shall take its placeRegistered User regular
    Plus I mean
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    that is covering less than a tube top would

  • UltimateInfernoUltimateInferno Registered User regular
    Well look, it's not like Cyclops is with her for her wonderful personality.

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  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    Antimatter wrote: »
    where do her nipples even go in that costume

    they're covered by the cups.

    also yes blank that covers less but it's technically lingerie so it's better!

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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla Cut one head and two shall take its placeRegistered User regular
    I fail to see how wearing lingerie in public is classier/better than a tube top

  • AriviaArivia Registered User
    in the idea of emma as british upper-class woman, it makes sense

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  • BlankzillaBlankzilla Cut one head and two shall take its placeRegistered User regular
    She isn't British at all! She was born in Boston!

  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    He’s got a Spider-Man lunchbox, a purple belt in taekwondo, and he is awesome.
    :D

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