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A Thread About Movies

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edited March 2012 in Debate and/or Discourse






This is the thread about movies. You're free to talk about anything related to cinema, but be interesting about it. Nobody wants to read "I saw ______, it sucked."

The use of the word "pretentious" is banned until further notice.

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  • TurksonTurkson Near the mountains of ColoradoRegistered User regular
    Most underrated movie you've ever seen?

    The 13th Warrior for me.

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  • wanderingwandering Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    I'm a slobbering fan of Titus and Rocky Horror Picture Show. (Metacritic scores: 57 and 55, respectively.) (Both movies are also high up on the list of "best opening credits sequences ever".)

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu ___________PIGEON _________San Diego, CA Registered User regular
    Turkson wrote: »
    Most underrated movie you've ever seen?

    The 13th Warrior for me.

    Not sure about the most underrated I've seen, but I think the movies with the highest I liked it/other people didn't like it ratio are Willow (I adore it, lots of people seem to either tolerate or hate it), Assassination of a High School President (again, mostly merits a "meh" from others), and Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, which seems to have been a generally divisive movie in any case, so I'm not sure if that's underrated or not.

    I'm not even sure what underrated means for movies. If it means "I wish people gave this movie more credit" it's kind of weird, because a lot of movies are fantastic precisely because not everyone will like them (Repo Man, The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension, Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, They Live!, Big Troulbe in Little China...). They're quirky/outside the mainstream and all the better for it. Heck, even stuff like a lot of the Coen Brothers' oeuvre is hit or miss for lots of people. And torture porn like Saw falls into the "miss" category for me, whereas I have friends who love it. So if most people were like me, would Saw be underrated? Or would it just appeal to fewer people and have precisely the "rating" it deserves?

  • redfield85redfield85 Registered User regular
    I thought there was another movie thread, but I could be wrong. I was looking to post THIS LINK somewhere.

    They are showing Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Hulk, Thor, and Captain America on Thursday, May 3rd starting at 11:30am before the midnight release of The Avengers. $40 tickets and you get one of four special 3D glasses I believe.

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  • wanderingwandering Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    I also really liked A Goofy Movie as a kid and still do. (57% on rottentomatoes.) It was genius to saddle Goofy with a teenage son who is perpetually embarrassed by him, and I think the movie does a good job capturing the father-teenage son dynamic. I really like the scene where the two of them start shouting at each other and the car careens off the road and starts bouncing down a canyon like an old Disney cartoon and what's going on with the car is kind of echoing their argument.
    because a lot of movies are fantastic precisely because not everyone will like them
    I agree with this in theory, however I am insecure enough that I hate to learn that some random stranger doesn't like something that I like.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Klonoa of the Wind WAHOO!Registered User regular
    I saw 21 Jump Street tonight, it was great
    Jacobkosh wrote:
    This is the thread about movies. You're free to talk about anything related to cinema, but be interesting about it. Nobody wants to read "I saw ______, it sucked."

    Oh okay, then.

    The thing I thought was most odd about it was how it seemed to recognize and, at first, avoid typical high-school film scenarios, where "these are the jocks and they are cool and these guys are nerds and they suck" typically applies. It was refreshing to see the walkthrough of the school parking lot where they're pointing out "Those are the goths, those are the nerds, those are...I don't know what those are...what the fuck are these guys...?" But then by the end of the films, nerds are helping the case in their usual techie ways of helping in films like this. I guess it couldn't be avoided.

    Stereotypes aside, the film is really well-written and well-acted. Channing Tatum is surprisingly likable, surprising because he's usually such a blank slate of an actor. Moneyball made me gave Jonah Hill a reevaluation and he's doing well with me so far. The climax of the film was a really nice nod to anyone who actually watched and enjoyed the series, even if it did evolve into a bit of a mindless chase scene after that.

    Still, I definitely recommend it, and Brie Larson is in it, she's gorgeous and not in nearly enough films

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  • TurksonTurkson Near the mountains of ColoradoRegistered User regular
    Turkson wrote: »
    Most underrated movie you've ever seen?

    The 13th Warrior for me.

    Not sure about the most underrated I've seen, but I think the movies with the highest I liked it/other people didn't like it ratio are Willow (I adore it, lots of people seem to either tolerate or hate it), Assassination of a High School President (again, mostly merits a "meh" from others), and Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, which seems to have been a generally divisive movie in any case, so I'm not sure if that's underrated or not.

    I'm not even sure what underrated means for movies. If it means "I wish people gave this movie more credit" it's kind of weird, because a lot of movies are fantastic precisely because not everyone will like them (Repo Man, The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension, Scott Pilgrim vs. The World, They Live!, Big Troulbe in Little China...). They're quirky/outside the mainstream and all the better for it. Heck, even stuff like a lot of the Coen Brothers' oeuvre is hit or miss for lots of people. And torture porn like Saw falls into the "miss" category for me, whereas I have friends who love it. So if most people were like me, would Saw be underrated? Or would it just appeal to fewer people and have precisely the "rating" it deserves?

    Definitely agree about the divisive nature of Scott Pilgrim. I've loaned out my copy many times, and recurring theme is that people who have played video games like it, and those who haven't don't like it.

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  • AstaerethAstaereth Registered User regular
    redfield85 wrote: »
    I thought there was another movie thread, but I could be wrong. I was looking to post THIS LINK somewhere.

    They are showing Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Hulk, Thor, and Captain America on Thursday, May 3rd starting at 11:30am before the midnight release of The Avengers. $40 tickets and you get one of four special 3D glasses I believe.

    40 bucks for one good movie? What a ripoff.

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu ___________PIGEON _________San Diego, CA Registered User regular
    That's interesting, because although I'm of course a gamer, none of the video game stuff in Scott Pilgrim really resonated with me, aside from the coins every time he won a fight (those were kind of neat). The rest of it I could take or leave. What really made me fall in love was the pacing and general tone (sight gag after sight gag mixed in with relentless non-diegetic noises and constant magical realism) and the humor. What I sort of worry about is all the video game stuff turning people off by flipping the "this is for nerds" switch in their head. I think to enjoy Scott Pilgrim you really have to be totally open to it: I went in not knowing anything and had a lot of fun (which is pretty much how I view all entertainment), but if I were close-minded in any way I could see myself really shutting down. The movie does have in-jokes that only games are really going to get, and although I felt it would've been just as good without them, if I were a non-gamer, I might feel isolated and suspect that the movie's not for me in some way.

    Which would be a shame, but I suspect that plus hatred of anything that looks like a "hipster" is what turns a lot of people off with that movie.

  • wanderingwandering Registered User regular
    You know what's a good warm-and-fuzzy movies-are-awesome movie? Inglorious Basterds.

    I love Scott Pilgrim even though it's a movie about romance and I didn't especially want Scott to wind up with Cold-and-icy. Or Creepily-obsessed Fan-girl. (Scott Pilgrim's another movie with an awesome opening credits sequence.)

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Klonoa of the Wind WAHOO!Registered User regular
    Astaereth wrote: »
    redfield85 wrote: »
    I thought there was another movie thread, but I could be wrong. I was looking to post THIS LINK somewhere.

    They are showing Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Hulk, Thor, and Captain America on Thursday, May 3rd starting at 11:30am before the midnight release of The Avengers. $40 tickets and you get one of four special 3D glasses I believe.

    40 bucks for one good movie? What a ripoff.

    Is this assuming The Avengers will be good?

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  • Captain TragedyCaptain Tragedy Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    wandering wrote: »
    You know what's a good warm-and-fuzzy movies-are-awesome movie? Inglorious Basterds.

    I love Scott Pilgrim even though it's a movie about romance and I didn't especially want Scott to wind up with Cold-and-icy. Or Creepily-obsessed Fan-girl. (Scott Pilgrim's another movie with an awesome opening credits sequence.)

    I thought Bryan Lee O'Malley's originally planned end of the comic with Scott
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    was the best. Of course, the movie wasn't going to go that route even when that was how the comic was planned to end, so I guess it didn't matter.

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  • EshEsh Tending bar. FFXIV. Spending too much money eating out. That's about it. Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    Astaereth wrote: »
    redfield85 wrote: »
    I thought there was another movie thread, but I could be wrong. I was looking to post THIS LINK somewhere.

    They are showing Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Hulk, Thor, and Captain America on Thursday, May 3rd starting at 11:30am before the midnight release of The Avengers. $40 tickets and you get one of four special 3D glasses I believe.

    40 bucks for one good movie? What a ripoff.

    Strange that they're sticking The Hulk in there since whichever of the two it is, it's out of canon with the other films.

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  • HacksawHacksaw J Duggan Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    Turkson wrote: »
    Most underrated movie you've ever seen?

    The 13th Warrior for me.

    Arguably the best viking movie of all time, in my opinion.

  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu ___________PIGEON _________San Diego, CA Registered User regular
    Esh wrote: »
    Astaereth wrote: »
    redfield85 wrote: »
    I thought there was another movie thread, but I could be wrong. I was looking to post THIS LINK somewhere.

    They are showing Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Hulk, Thor, and Captain America on Thursday, May 3rd starting at 11:30am before the midnight release of The Avengers. $40 tickets and you get one of four special 3D glasses I believe.

    40 bucks for one good movie? What a ripoff.

    Strange that they're sticking The Hulk in there since whichever of the two it is, it's out of canon with the other films.

    Is it really? I mean aside from a different actor, isn't the latest Hulk still canon? Tony Stark shows up at the end, right?

  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Klonoa of the Wind WAHOO!Registered User regular
    So guys, The Hunger Games comes out next weekend

    I have no real clue about anything Hunger Games-related other than what I've seen in the trailers, but the gist I'm getting is this: Impoverished people are divided into "zones," every once in a while they hold something called the Hunger Games, a kid from each zone is selected, the winning kid's zone gets more food? Is that it?

    Is that it? There has to be more to it than that, right? Some bigger hook? I can't tell if it's just really that straightforward or if this film just has the absolute worst marketing in the world.

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  • wanderingwandering Registered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote:
    This is the thread about movies. You're free to talk about anything related to cinema, but be interesting about it. Nobody wants to read "I saw ______, it sucked."
    I'm not going to do it because I hate making threads but I thought about making an "evaluation-free movie thread" in SE where you are not allowed to use words like love/hate/awesome/lame/good/bad/major/minor and can instead only say things like "60 horses died during the making of that movie" and "did you notice that Frank N Furter, Magenta, and Riff Raff are all at the wedding in disguise?" and "I think the reason Plainview went bonkers sometimes is..."

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  • Linespider5Linespider5 It’s cool to have a code name. It’s not that weird.Registered User regular
    Hunger Games in next week?

    Hrrm.

    I mean, I have no interest in it by any means, but I'm getting the sense that this movie isn't going to be nearly as big as the people behind it would expect it to be.

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes Well, that seems pretty ludicrous.Registered User regular
    So guys, The Hunger Games comes out next weekend

    I have no real clue about anything Hunger Games-related other than what I've seen in the trailers, but the gist I'm getting is this: Impoverished people are divided into "zones," every once in a while they hold something called the Hunger Games, a kid from each zone is selected, the winning kid's zone gets more food? Is that it?

    Is that it? There has to be more to it than that, right? Some bigger hook? I can't tell if it's just really that straightforward or if this film just has the absolute worst marketing in the world.

    it's not marketing to you really

    NOPE.
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  • JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    I'm not even sure what underrated means for movies.

    This is a good question. My own sense of it has always been that the term either refers to something that hasn't quite found the audience it deserves, or that doesn't get credit for being as good as it is. A good example of the first case is a movie like Strange Days, which is a terrific sci-fi mystery/thriller but which few people have heard of and fewer still have seen. It's not for everyone, but it deserves to be mentioned and appreciated more often than it is, if you follow.

  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    Esh wrote: »
    Astaereth wrote: »
    redfield85 wrote: »
    I thought there was another movie thread, but I could be wrong. I was looking to post THIS LINK somewhere.

    They are showing Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Hulk, Thor, and Captain America on Thursday, May 3rd starting at 11:30am before the midnight release of The Avengers. $40 tickets and you get one of four special 3D glasses I believe.

    40 bucks for one good movie? What a ripoff.

    Strange that they're sticking The Hulk in there since whichever of the two it is, it's out of canon with the other films.

    Is it really? I mean aside from a different actor, isn't the latest Hulk still canon? Tony Stark shows up at the end, right?

    He's wrong. The Incredible Hulk is indeed in continuity.

    Also what's wrong with you people? All the Avengers movies have been fun and competent. Certainly not the best but come on.

    EDIT_ Also you really couldn't tell which of two movies, one that is despised and came out over a decade ago and the one that came out like three years ago and got a fairly ok response is in continuity?

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Klonoa of the Wind WAHOO!Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    So guys, The Hunger Games comes out next weekend

    I have no real clue about anything Hunger Games-related other than what I've seen in the trailers, but the gist I'm getting is this: Impoverished people are divided into "zones," every once in a while they hold something called the Hunger Games, a kid from each zone is selected, the winning kid's zone gets more food? Is that it?

    Is that it? There has to be more to it than that, right? Some bigger hook? I can't tell if it's just really that straightforward or if this film just has the absolute worst marketing in the world.

    it's not marketing to you really

    Who is it marketing to?

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes Well, that seems pretty ludicrous.Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    So guys, The Hunger Games comes out next weekend

    I have no real clue about anything Hunger Games-related other than what I've seen in the trailers, but the gist I'm getting is this: Impoverished people are divided into "zones," every once in a while they hold something called the Hunger Games, a kid from each zone is selected, the winning kid's zone gets more food? Is that it?

    Is that it? There has to be more to it than that, right? Some bigger hook? I can't tell if it's just really that straightforward or if this film just has the absolute worst marketing in the world.

    it's not marketing to you really

    Who is it marketing to?

    the bajillion people who read the books

    who then drag their friends to see it

    NOPE.
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  • DoodmannDoodmann Registered User regular
    Hunger Games = Battle Royal + girly drama

    Thats about all you need to know. I'll probably go see it because even while I hated the character I liked the worldbuilding the author did.

  • FencingsaxFencingsax Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    So guys, The Hunger Games comes out next weekend

    I have no real clue about anything Hunger Games-related other than what I've seen in the trailers, but the gist I'm getting is this: Impoverished people are divided into "zones," every once in a while they hold something called the Hunger Games, a kid from each zone is selected, the winning kid's zone gets more food? Is that it?

    Is that it? There has to be more to it than that, right? Some bigger hook? I can't tell if it's just really that straightforward or if this film just has the absolute worst marketing in the world.

    The Hunger Games is basically Battle Royale. Last one to survive wins. That's all I know, and I don't particularly care.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Klonoa of the Wind WAHOO!Registered User regular
    Hmmm

    I like Battle Royale and girly drama

    I mean, I'm going to see it, but it just feels like there should be...more to it than that, somehow

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  • Donkey KongDonkey Kong Warning: Donkey Kong is not a real doctor Registered User regular
    edited March 2012
    So guys, The Hunger Games comes out next weekend

    I have no real clue about anything Hunger Games-related other than what I've seen in the trailers, but the gist I'm getting is this: Impoverished people are divided into "zones," every once in a while they hold something called the Hunger Games, a kid from each zone is selected, the winning kid's zone gets more food? Is that it?

    Is that it? There has to be more to it than that, right? Some bigger hook? I can't tell if it's just really that straightforward or if this film just has the absolute worst marketing in the world.

    I don't know how much of this is spoilers but this is the basic premise of The Hunger Games, explained over the course of the first chapter or so:
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    Also, keep in mind that it is science fiction, so there's all kinds of robots and flying cars and weather machines and shit!

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Klonoa of the Wind WAHOO!Registered User regular
    Also what's wrong with you people? All the Avengers movies have been fun and competent. Certainly not the best but come on.

    To be fair, I haven't seen Captain America yet, so I'll concede that maybe it's a fun time

    Thor was okay. Iron Man 2 and The Incredible Hulk were pretty bad, only having one noteworthy scene each (the Iron Man/War Machine party fight, Tim Roth on the super soldier serum).

    Iron Man 1 I still consider to be the best superhero film yet, but then they went and blew all that goodwill with Iron Man 2, and The Avengers looks like it will be a terrible alien invasion flick with superheroes. I like Joss Whedon but my biggest fear with The Avengers is that it's going to be all-action, all the time, with so many characters strewn about that there will be no time for actual plot or character development. Which is why you'd bring Joss Whedon in, so he can do his action-scene one-liners. Some people probably think this is okay to do because these characters all had their back stories already done in previous films, but those are the types of films I like to see when seeing a superhero film, and I think that the majority of those in this case (outside of Iron Man 1) were poorly done.

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Also what's wrong with you people? All the Avengers movies have been fun and competent. Certainly not the best but come on.

    To be fair, I haven't seen Captain America yet, so I'll concede that maybe it's a fun time

    Thor was okay. Iron Man 2 and The Incredible Hulk were pretty bad, only having one noteworthy scene each (the Iron Man/War Machine party fight, Tim Roth on the super soldier serum).

    Iron Man 1 I still consider to be the best superhero film yet, but then they went and blew all that goodwill with Iron Man 2, and The Avengers looks like it will be a terrible alien invasion flick with superheroes. I like Joss Whedon but my biggest fear with The Avengers is that it's going to be all-action, all the time, with so many characters strewn about that there will be no time for actual plot or character development. Which is why you'd bring Joss Whedon in, so he can do his action-scene one-liners. Some people probably think this is okay to do because these characters all had their back stories already done in previous films, but those are the types of films I like to see when seeing a superhero film, and I think that the majority of those in this case (outside of Iron Man 1) were poorly done.

    Somebody get this man Joss's interview regarding it.

    You needn't worry. The flick is a true ensemble and there will be plot.

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  • TurksonTurkson Near the mountains of ColoradoRegistered User regular
    Hunger Games in next week?

    Hrrm.

    I mean, I have no interest in it by any means, but I'm getting the sense that this movie isn't going to be nearly as big as the people behind it would expect it to be.

    My little brother's 7th grade class is going to it on opening day. Where were these things when I was going to school?

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  • Apothe0sisApothe0sis Registered User regular
    So guys, The Hunger Games comes out next weekend

    I have no real clue about anything Hunger Games-related other than what I've seen in the trailers, but the gist I'm getting is this: Impoverished people are divided into "zones," every once in a while they hold something called the Hunger Games, a kid from each zone is selected, the winning kid's zone gets more food? Is that it?

    Is that it? There has to be more to it than that, right? Some bigger hook? I can't tell if it's just really that straightforward or if this film just has the absolute worst marketing in the world.

    They choose two kids from each zone. A boy and a girl. FOR THE ROMANCE

    There is also a corporate sponsorship thing.

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Klonoa of the Wind WAHOO!Registered User regular
    Turkson wrote: »
    Hunger Games in next week?

    Hrrm.

    I mean, I have no interest in it by any means, but I'm getting the sense that this movie isn't going to be nearly as big as the people behind it would expect it to be.

    My little brother's 7th grade class is going to it on opening day. Where were these things when I was going to school?

    Whoa, what?

    I have never heard of a public school class going to see a movie for a field trip

    Theaters have to love that kind of guaranteed business though, I guess. Reminds me of when local churches were buying out entire theaters for The Passion of the Christ and handing out tickets to churchgoers, telling them to bring friends.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
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    Also what's wrong with you people? All the Avengers movies have been fun and competent. Certainly not the best but come on.

    To be fair, I haven't seen Captain America yet, so I'll concede that maybe it's a fun time

    Thor was okay. Iron Man 2 and The Incredible Hulk were pretty bad, only having one noteworthy scene each (the Iron Man/War Machine party fight, Tim Roth on the super soldier serum).

    Iron Man 1 I still consider to be the best superhero film yet, but then they went and blew all that goodwill with Iron Man 2, and The Avengers looks like it will be a terrible alien invasion flick with superheroes. I like Joss Whedon but my biggest fear with The Avengers is that it's going to be all-action, all the time, with so many characters strewn about that there will be no time for actual plot or character development. Which is why you'd bring Joss Whedon in, so he can do his action-scene one-liners. Some people probably think this is okay to do because these characters all had their back stories already done in previous films, but those are the types of films I like to see when seeing a superhero film, and I think that the majority of those in this case (outside of Iron Man 1) were poorly done.

    Actually Whedon's talent is writing excellent ensemble casts, not action scenes. He's a good enough writer to make very character unique, everyone gets a time to shine, comedy & tragedy come from the conflicts from interaction.

    That and he's excellent directing talent rivaling that of any previous Marvel director.

    Read his interviews about Avengers. They'll show why you have nothing to worry about.

    Iron Man 2 and Incredible Hulk are inferior to Iron Man 1, Thor and Captain America but they're not bad movies, they're mediocre at best. Sure IM 2 was hurt by setting up Avengers, it were still enjoyable IMO.

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  • y2jake215y2jake215 The style is radiation leak at mile island Also known as Chernobyl talk, listen for the sirensRegistered User regular
    Turkson wrote: »
    Hunger Games in next week?

    Hrrm.

    I mean, I have no interest in it by any means, but I'm getting the sense that this movie isn't going to be nearly as big as the people behind it would expect it to be.

    My little brother's 7th grade class is going to it on opening day. Where were these things when I was going to school?

    Whoa, what?

    I have never heard of a public school class going to see a movie for a field trip

    Theaters have to love that kind of guaranteed business though, I guess. Reminds me of when local churches were buying out entire theaters for The Passion of the Christ and handing out tickets to churchgoers, telling them to bring friends.

    7th grade we got taken to Fellowship of the Ring, it was a solid field trip

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  • AstaerethAstaereth Registered User regular
    So guys, The Hunger Games comes out next weekend

    I have no real clue about anything Hunger Games-related other than what I've seen in the trailers, but the gist I'm getting is this: Impoverished people are divided into "zones," every once in a while they hold something called the Hunger Games, a kid from each zone is selected, the winning kid's zone gets more food? Is that it?

    Is that it? There has to be more to it than that, right? Some bigger hook? I can't tell if it's just really that straightforward or if this film just has the absolute worst marketing in the world.

    The hook of The Hunger Games is basically My First Dystopia + the glamour of being a reality TV star + nonsense love triangle + Battle Royale.

    The books aren't terrible--they're certainly not Twilight, for instance--but the author doesn't know how to end things, and that includes the trilogy. And the main character vacillates between interesting/cool/badass and weak/moronic/myopic. And for a story that's at least half about the love triangle when it's not about pretty young people trying to kill each other, there's zero sex appeal at all (chaste kissing is as racy as it gets).

    It's not like, high literature or anything, but it's also not something that should make you bemoan the state of our species or anything.

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    21 Jump Street was pretty fucking funny.
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  • wanderingwandering Registered User regular
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    Finally got around to seeing Julie Taymor's Tempest, starring Hellen Mirren as Prosperoa.

    I read some wharglebargle on the imbd boards that went something like how dare they cast a woman to play Prospero! Feminism has gone too far this time! I guess it wouldn't help to point out that in Shakespeare's day Prospero's daughter would've been played by a prepubescent teenage boy.

    Anyway I liked the movie well enough - I enjoyed the new-agey soundtrack and Mirren and the rest of the cast is good. Chris Cooper has a lot of fun as one of the villains. I was expecting Mirren to play the part in a masculine/androgynous way but she injects a lot of femininity and motherlyless into her performance.

    The special effects detract from the film though - not so much because they're SyFy channel quality but because I don't think surrealism mixes well with computer effects. Part of the reason the rabbitheads in Inland Empire are so neat is that you know that if you happened to be standing in the room when they filmed that scene, you'd see exactly what you see on-screen: a shadowy living room full of people with giant rabbit-heads. So I'd prefer it if Ariel was just a pretty naked dude who is covered in white face paint - no need to make him transparent and make him digitally teleport across the screen non-stop and make wisps of smoke come off him.

    Also, casting a black actor as the evil buffoonish rapist slave? And making him the only black character? And giving him tribal drum theme music? I, uh, dunno if that was the right call.

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  • GreasyKidsStuffGreasyKidsStuff Registered User regular
    I just got back from A Dangerous Method. I tend to enjoy Cronenberg films to varying degrees and this was no exception. Mortensen was fantastic as Freud, but I wasn't sure if Cronenberg was intentionally trying to play up the phallocentric nature of his beliefs to the point where it was almost funny or not. I mean, there were a lot of points where you kind of rolled your eyes, because "Oh Freud!" A psychology student would have a field day watching it because there's so many references to psychoanalysis as a whole (there has to be, considering the subject matter of the film), but I'm having a hard time discerning where the film's stance was in regards to the discipline.

    Fassbender continues to be an actor I love watching, no matter what he does. And Knightley put in a performance that was outside of her comfort zone at first (at least, I thought so), but she slowly began to grate on me.

    Anybody else see it?

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  • AstaerethAstaereth Registered User regular
    I desperately wish Cronenberg would go back to making surreal horror movies. We have so many directors who can make dramas and thrillers, but only one who can make the sorts of films he used to make--Videodrome, Existenz, The Fly, The Brood, The Dead Zone... hallucinatory visions of contemporary fears given nightmarish form. History of Violence is a good movie, I thought Eastern Promises was decent, and Dangerous Method is next on my list, but still...

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