I just don't see how something can be so bad at its job and not be fired. Human or block of code, I don't care!
'hay guys, i jugnle dragon knight'
matchmaker can't solve people! it will always happen!
also any tips on going out to gank as enigma out of the jungle?
i had an otherwise successful game as him, but my early game was kind of "jungle a bit, try to gank woops fucked it up i'll go back and pull and get my blink sorry"
how can you not understand that you must not be good person
also i have no friends because I treat people like that last sentence
no there are definitely people who will play dota and games of its like for thousands of games without ever really understanding the basics of the game very well! this is because there is such a high learning curve to the game, some may never attempt to go for it and instead just play the game fully "for fun" and do whatever tickles their fancy!
i mean, i think you can argue that lower amounts of games will generally yield lower game knowledge, but i don't think that higher games played will mean higher game knowledge
so using it as a metric seems pretty silly! in fact, most metrics for "game skill" are pretty silly, especially in a teamwork and positioning focused game as this one, and thus relativistic matchmaking is quite hard!
and i think i'm alright at the dotes
just queue with random people
some dude does well in a game you play? message them on steam seeing if they want to duo queue for next game and hey maybe add them to your friends list if they are cool!!
I don't really think it is worth the effort in any real game.
The being able to port anywhere and have the sunstrike hit 100% of the time was good fun though.
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I feel like only in Dota are there people who actually want to play other roles. In HoN it's just mid-solo and carry picks all day. I get really sad when I get match made in an all pick game, so much that I only upvote it if I have mates with me.
as an awful beginner, i agree about the support/semi-carry/push role being good for beginners.
played a little windrunner last night and did alright with her. has a good escape mech and can contribute to team fights so long as you are not in the middle of things.
I feel like only in Dota are there people who actually want to play other roles. In HoN it's just mid-solo and carry picks all day. I get really sad when I get match made in an all pick game, so much that I only upvote it if I have mates with me.
I love supporting - my favorite role with semi-carry followed shortly behind. This goes for HoN or Dota 2. Sadly, it is such a team dependent role, as in if I don't have a decent team to support, what difference does it make if I'm buying chicken, upping chicken, warding, stacking, etc.? When it works, though, damn... such a satisfying part to play in a team effort.
Back in the day when I played LoL a lot more, I would pick Sona all day long with the intent to support. She was so broken, though, that I'd wind up carrying with her and force Kat, Yi, Jax, (insert other LoL carry) into the ward bitch role by mid game.
i unironically love having enough money as a semicarry or something to buy crow, fly it to the secret shop, buy something insane, and fly it to me
fuck off pub supports, i got your back!
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You know, I actually got yelled at once in an 1800+ for upping the courier as a mid carry. They said it was the supports job to do that and they should do it for me. But god damnit if I need an item, I need an item.
as an awful beginner, i agree about the support/semi-carry/push role being good for beginners.
played a little windrunner last night and did alright with her. has a good escape mech and can contribute to team fights so long as you are not in the middle of things.
I really want to learn Windrunner. She seems very versatile. I can't time her Shackleshot to save my life, though, but I guess a mini-stun is better than no stun at all. That's what I keep telling myself.
You know, I actually got yelled at once in an 1800+ for upping the courier as a mid carry. They said it was the supports job to do that and they should do it for me. But god damnit if I need an item, I need an item.
exactly -- i ain't hoofing it to the secret store or something for my item. or even if i just need my manta recipe right goddamn now, you bet i'm paying for that sprint ability
as an awful beginner, i agree about the support/semi-carry/push role being good for beginners.
played a little windrunner last night and did alright with her. has a good escape mech and can contribute to team fights so long as you are not in the middle of things.
I really want to learn Windrunner. She seems very versatile. I can't time her Shackleshot to save my life, though, but I guess a mini-stun is better than no stun at all. That's what I keep telling myself.
yea, it took me a while to realize that the ministun was not actually her real stun. she is pretty easy to time last shots though and she has good move speed, especially with windrun active
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as an awful beginner, i agree about the support/semi-carry/push role being good for beginners.
played a little windrunner last night and did alright with her. has a good escape mech and can contribute to team fights so long as you are not in the middle of things.
I really want to learn Windrunner. She seems very versatile. I can't time her Shackleshot to save my life, though, but I guess a mini-stun is better than no stun at all. That's what I keep telling myself.
I'm particularly horrible at Windrunner but really, I just stopped worrying about landing that perfect shackle on two enemies when pinning one to a tree is far easier and gives you less heartache.
as an awful beginner, i agree about the support/semi-carry/push role being good for beginners.
played a little windrunner last night and did alright with her. has a good escape mech and can contribute to team fights so long as you are not in the middle of things.
I really want to learn Windrunner. She seems very versatile. I can't time her Shackleshot to save my life, though, but I guess a mini-stun is better than no stun at all. That's what I keep telling myself.
I'm particularly horrible at Windrunner but really, I just stopped worrying about landing that perfect shackle on two enemies when pinning one to a tree is far easier and gives you less heartache.
yea, and her nuke is pretty nice since it has huge range and will destroy trees so you can keep some space between you.
Being Enchantress and stealing Chen's creeps amuses me greatly. Especially when you can steal a troll, have it throw the net on Chen and have Ursa beat him up. Too bad I lost the game where this happened horribly.
I start with courier, two gauntlets and iron branch on Enchantress. After that, sage's mask followed by arcane boots before getting the urn of shadows recipe. Then scepter and, if I happen to get a shitload of gold, sheepstick.
for my windrunner i have been picking up two branches and a ring of protection (and a courier if noone else did) and then getting ring of aquillas and a magic wand. then picking up some boots. i think i worked to power treads but i think phase boots would be better. though might also consider the arcane boots.
I love Enchant but I'm terrible with her: 5-10. eek. I usually go phase -> aghinams -> force staff -> scythe of vyse
I'd suggest throwing in at least one bracer and/or strength power treads, your score may improve. Her hp pool is really small.
I like the damage of phases and the movespeed is important since she is all about chasing. I figure I'm rushing scepter anyway so I should be ok for squishiness.
but I go back and forth on treads vs phase boots, treads are also awesome. and she's super squishy almost no matter what you do.
I mean my K/D/A is ok with her, I've got a 1.53 KDR and a 3.25 K+A/DR, I just always seem to lose with her. 5-10 is a 33% win percentage. not good. especially since I've played her a ton.
speaking of boots int treads on sven are the only way to fly. oh man. mana problems = solved. I always get treads on him and I never bothered to abuse the stat switching to correct his minor early game mana problems. I'm the worst.
for my windrunner i have been picking up two branches and a ring of protection (and a courier if noone else did) and then getting ring of aquillas and a magic wand. then picking up some boots. i think i worked to power treads but i think phase boots would be better. though might also consider the arcane boots.
then would work for force staff and mekansm
Why ring of aquila? I mean, i guess it's a relatively cheap upgrade from a basilius, but she doesn't need the extra agility at all.
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The Drum starts with 4 charges. These charges can be replenished by purchasing the recipe again for 750 gold.
for my windrunner i have been picking up two branches and a ring of protection (and a courier if noone else did) and then getting ring of aquillas and a magic wand. then picking up some boots. i think i worked to power treads but i think phase boots would be better. though might also consider the arcane boots.
then would work for force staff and mekansm
Why ring of aquila? I mean, i guess it's a relatively cheap upgrade from a basilius, but she doesn't need the extra agility at all.
eh. i think if you are even a modicum more than pure support wr (which can happen fairly often) i think that upgrading to aquila is worth it, in terms of gold efficiency
it gives you stuff you generally want on an item that you always get, for pretty amazing gold value. wouldn't blame a person for skipping though if they are doing well or are more supporty and buying a ton of wards or something
Eh. If anything, I'd rather keep the RoB and upgrade it into a vlads later if your team needs one. I guess there are worse things you could spend 480 gold on, but WR really doesn't benefit too much from the extra +6 agi, or +3 int and strength, or +3 damage. I pretty much only ever see aquila on agi heroes who would be getting basilius and wraithbands anyways.
edit: Plus, there's always the option of upgrading it to vlads later in the game if your team needs one.
I hope the next step in interface redesign, after adding a different ui for each side, will be more open numbers. I know they hide the damage ranges, but at least they're still there if you want to see them. They also hide fractions, which actually matter: a hero can have 9.3 armour, and it's more protection than 9 armour. Which you can still see if you mouse over the armour values because the damage reduction % will go up even though the UI still says 9 armour.
The other thing is damage and armour types. They actually do matter, and they're still in the game, but there's currently no way to tell which unit does which type of damage or which type of armour unless you already know from playing wc3 dota. That's a really easy fix, too. Give each damage type a different weapon icon and each armour type a different shield icon, which is pretty much how it is in wc3 anyway. So I'm sure that will be in eventually.
for my windrunner i have been picking up two branches and a ring of protection (and a courier if noone else did) and then getting ring of aquillas and a magic wand. then picking up some boots. i think i worked to power treads but i think phase boots would be better. though might also consider the arcane boots.
then would work for force staff and mekansm
Why ring of aquila? I mean, i guess it's a relatively cheap upgrade from a basilius, but she doesn't need the extra agility at all.
i meant basillius, i was going roughly from memory, and my memory is crap lately.
though a lot of those deaths came at the end trying to stop pushes
had like 150 something last hits and 32 denies and controlled my lane for the most part. it felt pretty good and was consistently getting off the full stun of shackleshot. was high leveled too. it felt weird having money to buy luxury items
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matchmaker can't solve people! it will always happen!
also any tips on going out to gank as enigma out of the jungle?
i had an otherwise successful game as him, but my early game was kind of "jungle a bit, try to gank woops fucked it up i'll go back and pull and get my blink sorry"
Give me that box and I will check it. I will check teh fak out tat box
in no way is that an indicator
and skill is hard to determine! matchmaking is hard
just queue with friends if it is getting really bad for you, i would say
how can you not understand that you must not be good person
also i have no friends because I treat people like that last sentence
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no there are definitely people who will play dota and games of its like for thousands of games without ever really understanding the basics of the game very well! this is because there is such a high learning curve to the game, some may never attempt to go for it and instead just play the game fully "for fun" and do whatever tickles their fancy!
i mean, i think you can argue that lower amounts of games will generally yield lower game knowledge, but i don't think that higher games played will mean higher game knowledge
so using it as a metric seems pretty silly! in fact, most metrics for "game skill" are pretty silly, especially in a teamwork and positioning focused game as this one, and thus relativistic matchmaking is quite hard!
and i think i'm alright at the dotes
just queue with random people
some dude does well in a game you play? message them on steam seeing if they want to duo queue for next game and hey maybe add them to your friends list if they are cool!!
The being able to port anywhere and have the sunstrike hit 100% of the time was good fun though.
Twitch: KoopahTroopah - Steam: Koopah
played a little windrunner last night and did alright with her. has a good escape mech and can contribute to team fights so long as you are not in the middle of things.
I love supporting - my favorite role with semi-carry followed shortly behind. This goes for HoN or Dota 2. Sadly, it is such a team dependent role, as in if I don't have a decent team to support, what difference does it make if I'm buying chicken, upping chicken, warding, stacking, etc.? When it works, though, damn... such a satisfying part to play in a team effort.
Back in the day when I played LoL a lot more, I would pick Sona all day long with the intent to support. She was so broken, though, that I'd wind up carrying with her and force Kat, Yi, Jax, (insert other LoL carry) into the ward bitch role by mid game.
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fuck off pub supports, i got your back!
the small delights of pubbing
You know, I actually got yelled at once in an 1800+ for upping the courier as a mid carry. They said it was the supports job to do that and they should do it for me. But god damnit if I need an item, I need an item.
Twitch: KoopahTroopah - Steam: Koopah
I really want to learn Windrunner. She seems very versatile. I can't time her Shackleshot to save my life, though, but I guess a mini-stun is better than no stun at all. That's what I keep telling myself.
XBL: InvaderJims
Bnet: Pudgestomp#11153
exactly -- i ain't hoofing it to the secret store or something for my item. or even if i just need my manta recipe right goddamn now, you bet i'm paying for that sprint ability
yea, it took me a while to realize that the ministun was not actually her real stun. she is pretty easy to time last shots though and she has good move speed, especially with windrun active
I'm particularly horrible at Windrunner but really, I just stopped worrying about landing that perfect shackle on two enemies when pinning one to a tree is far easier and gives you less heartache.
yea, and her nuke is pretty nice since it has huge range and will destroy trees so you can keep some space between you.
I'd suggest throwing in at least one bracer and/or strength power treads, your score may improve. Her hp pool is really small.
then would work for force staff and mekansm
we were losing at first, then we wrecked them big time
I was Sven and knocked people out big time
I like the damage of phases and the movespeed is important since she is all about chasing. I figure I'm rushing scepter anyway so I should be ok for squishiness.
but I go back and forth on treads vs phase boots, treads are also awesome. and she's super squishy almost no matter what you do.
I mean my K/D/A is ok with her, I've got a 1.53 KDR and a 3.25 K+A/DR, I just always seem to lose with her. 5-10 is a 33% win percentage. not good. especially since I've played her a ton.
speaking of boots int treads on sven are the only way to fly. oh man. mana problems = solved. I always get treads on him and I never bothered to abuse the stat switching to correct his minor early game mana problems. I'm the worst.
Why ring of aquila? I mean, i guess it's a relatively cheap upgrade from a basilius, but she doesn't need the extra agility at all.
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This changes everything.
eh. i think if you are even a modicum more than pure support wr (which can happen fairly often) i think that upgrading to aquila is worth it, in terms of gold efficiency
it gives you stuff you generally want on an item that you always get, for pretty amazing gold value. wouldn't blame a person for skipping though if they are doing well or are more supporty and buying a ton of wards or something
edit: Plus, there's always the option of upgrading it to vlads later in the game if your team needs one.
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The other thing is damage and armour types. They actually do matter, and they're still in the game, but there's currently no way to tell which unit does which type of damage or which type of armour unless you already know from playing wc3 dota. That's a really easy fix, too. Give each damage type a different weapon icon and each armour type a different shield icon, which is pretty much how it is in wc3 anyway. So I'm sure that will be in eventually.
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i meant basillius, i was going roughly from memory, and my memory is crap lately.
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went 3 7 6
though a lot of those deaths came at the end trying to stop pushes
had like 150 something last hits and 32 denies and controlled my lane for the most part. it felt pretty good and was consistently getting off the full stun of shackleshot. was high leveled too. it felt weird having money to buy luxury items