explain to me how it's hypocritical to think that there are inherent advantages conferred upon a person by being born white and also to think that the distribution of wealth is fucked up
You actually caught me. As an affluent straight white male, I honestly have nothing to really complain about.
By "We" you mean privileged white internet denizens, or who exactly?
oh see now you're angling for WHITE GUILT THEY FEEL GUILTY ABOUT BEING WHITE
i'm getting good at this game
Being white is a tough cross to bear, I'll agree with you there.
protip people talking about white privilege and making everyone equal aren't doing it because they feel guilty
White privilege seems to be one of those things where either you're like 'hey that makes sense' or you argue 'NO FUCK YOU I DON'T NEED TO FEEL GUILTY BECAUSE OF WHAT SOME OTHER WHITE PEOPLE DID, IT'S NOT MY FAULT' thereby entirely missing the point.
That was my first reaction upon encountering the concept. Implying that I had advantages = I cheated somehow = I should be sorry. Fuck you, I have nothing to be sorry about.
Took a couple of years and some maturity before I realized how retarded that notion is.
explain to me how it's hypocritical to think that there are inherent advantages conferred upon a person by being born white and also to think that the distribution of wealth is fucked up
You actually caught me. As an affluent straight white male, I honestly have nothing to really complain about.
I just want to feel like I belong, somewhere.
this is also not a thing that anybody is saying
jesus man do you understand what privilege is or not
explain to me how it's hypocritical to think that there are inherent advantages conferred upon a person by being born white and also to think that the distribution of wealth is fucked up
You actually caught me. As an affluent straight white male, I honestly have nothing to really complain about.
I just want to feel like I belong, somewhere.
this is also not a thing that anybody is saying
jesus man do you understand what privilege is or not
Explain to me, oh lord of Butt.
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Metzger MeisterIt Gets Worsebefore it gets any better.Registered Userregular
explain to me how it's hypocritical to think that there are inherent advantages conferred upon a person by being born white and also to think that the distribution of wealth is fucked up
You actually caught me. As an affluent straight white male, I honestly have nothing to really complain about.
I just want to feel like I belong, somewhere.
this is also not a thing that anybody is saying
jesus man do you understand what privilege is or not
Explain to me, oh lord of Butt.
look
privilege is just the inherent advantages you get by being a member of the dominant group
for example: white privilege means there are advantages to being white vs being a minority
that doesn't mean you're consciously taking advantage of them, or that they exist because of a thing you or yours did, or that your life is flawless
but the privilege still exists!
nobody's saying you should feel guilty about it, in fact you shouldn't because it's not a thing you have control over
just be aware of it and maybe work to make things equal for everyone
explain to me how it's hypocritical to think that there are inherent advantages conferred upon a person by being born white and also to think that the distribution of wealth is fucked up
You actually caught me. As an affluent straight white male, I honestly have nothing to really complain about.
I just want to feel like I belong, somewhere.
this is also not a thing that anybody is saying
jesus man do you understand what privilege is or not
Explain to me, oh lord of Butt.
look
privilege is just the inherent advantages you get by being a member of the dominant group
for example: white privilege means there are advantages to being white vs being a minority
that doesn't mean you're consciously taking advantage of them, or that they exist because of a thing you or yours did, or that your life is flawless
but the privilege still exists!
nobody's saying you should feel guilty about it, in fact you shouldn't because it's not a thing you have control over
just be aware of it and maybe work to make things equal for everyone
Now we're venturing into White Man's Burden territory.
It also means that you understand where things like black history month come from and don't say things like 'well what about a WHITE history month, HUH?'
Much of these lessons can be applied to concepts of gender discrimination as well.
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ButtlordFornicusLord of Bondage and PainRegistered Userregular
oh come the fuck on
"let's make things equal" is not a goal that is exclusive to white people nor should it be
you didn't read a single fucking word of that, you just wanted a nice little snippet you could pick at and go "heh. you're the real racists. checkmate!"
explain to me how it's hypocritical to think that there are inherent advantages conferred upon a person by being born white and also to think that the distribution of wealth is fucked up
You actually caught me. As an affluent straight white male, I honestly have nothing to really complain about.
I just want to feel like I belong, somewhere.
this is also not a thing that anybody is saying
jesus man do you understand what privilege is or not
Explain to me, oh lord of Butt.
look
privilege is just the inherent advantages you get by being a member of the dominant group
for example: white privilege means there are advantages to being white vs being a minority
that doesn't mean you're consciously taking advantage of them, or that they exist because of a thing you or yours did, or that your life is flawless
but the privilege still exists!
nobody's saying you should feel guilty about it, in fact you shouldn't because it's not a thing you have control over
just be aware of it and maybe work to make things equal for everyone
Now we're venturing into Functioning Member of Society's Burden territory.
It also means that you understand where things like black history month come from and don't say things like 'well what about a WHITE history month, HUH?'
Much of these lessons can be applied to concepts of gender discrimination as well.
"let's make things equal" is not a goal that is exclusive to white people nor should it be
you didn't read a single fucking word of that, you just wanted a nice little snippet you could pick at and go "heh. you're the real racists. checkmate!"
fuck you
Which I agree with, except when we're in a conversation about White Privilege.
Also, nowhere in there did I imply you were a racist. Just saying that the discussion was entering into that territory.
"let's make things equal" is not a goal that is exclusive to white people nor should it be
you didn't read a single fucking word of that, you just wanted a nice little snippet you could pick at and go "heh. you're the real racists. checkmate!"
fuck you
Working to dismantle the frameworks of privilege is the exact same thing as saying 'oh dear, those poor other groups, we really ought to lift them up to the same level as us white people', apparently.
"let's make things equal" is not a goal that is exclusive to white people nor should it be
you didn't read a single fucking word of that, you just wanted a nice little snippet you could pick at and go "heh. you're the real racists. checkmate!"
fuck you
Working to dismantle the frameworks of privilege is the exact same thing as saying 'oh dear, those poor other groups, we really ought to lift them up to the same level as us white people', apparently.
explain to me how it's hypocritical to think that there are inherent advantages conferred upon a person by being born white and also to think that the distribution of wealth is fucked up
You actually caught me. As an affluent straight white male, I honestly have nothing to really complain about.
I just want to feel like I belong, somewhere.
this is also not a thing that anybody is saying
jesus man do you understand what privilege is or not
Explain to me, oh lord of Butt.
look
privilege is just the inherent advantages you get by being a member of the dominant group
for example: white privilege means there are advantages to being white vs being a minority
that doesn't mean you're consciously taking advantage of them, or that they exist because of a thing you or yours did, or that your life is flawless
but the privilege still exists!
nobody's saying you should feel guilty about it, in fact you shouldn't because it's not a thing you have control over
just be aware of it and maybe work to make things equal for everyone
Now we're venturing into White Man's Burden territory.
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ButtlordFornicusLord of Bondage and PainRegistered Userregular
"let's make things equal" is not a goal that is exclusive to white people nor should it be
you didn't read a single fucking word of that, you just wanted a nice little snippet you could pick at and go "heh. you're the real racists. checkmate!"
fuck you
Which I agree with, except when we're in a conversation about White Privilege.
Also, nowhere in there did I imply you were a racist. Just saying that the discussion was entering into that territory.
except it wasn't at all you goose
A) by calling "white man's burden" yes you implied that i'm racist
b) working to make sure nobody is priveleged is not lifting up the disadvantaged solel because you feel bad
Working to dismantle the frameworks of privilege is the exact same thing as saying 'oh dear, those poor other groups, we really ought to lift them up to the same level as us white people', apparently.
"let's make things equal" is not a goal that is exclusive to white people nor should it be
you didn't read a single fucking word of that, you just wanted a nice little snippet you could pick at and go "heh. you're the real racists. checkmate!"
fuck you
Which I agree with, except when we're in a conversation about White Privilege.
Also, nowhere in there did I imply you were a racist. Just saying that the discussion was entering into that territory.
protip: "white" isn't the only word that can be put in front of Privilege. There are all sorts of other kinds of privilege. In fact, Buttlord's explanation was clearly on privilege in general, and only used white privilege as one example. But if you look hard enough for ways to imply someone is racist rather than pay attention to what they're actually saying, I guess you can find what you need.
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ButtlordFornicusLord of Bondage and PainRegistered Userregular
LTM do you understand how privilege works
let's ignore the "tear it apart make shit equal" bit for now
because you're oging to pretend that's the real racism gotcha lieberal democraps
explain to me how it's hypocritical to think that there are inherent advantages conferred upon a person by being born white and also to think that the distribution of wealth is fucked up
You actually caught me. As an affluent straight white male, I honestly have nothing to really complain about.
I just want to feel like I belong, somewhere.
this is also not a thing that anybody is saying
jesus man do you understand what privilege is or not
Explain to me, oh lord of Butt.
look
privilege is just the inherent advantages you get by being a member of the dominant group
for example: white privilege means there are advantages to being white vs being a minority
that doesn't mean you're consciously taking advantage of them, or that they exist because of a thing you or yours did, or that your life is flawless
but the privilege still exists!
nobody's saying you should feel guilty about it, in fact you shouldn't because it's not a thing you have control over
just be aware of it and maybe work to make things equal for everyone
Now we're venturing into White Man's Burden territory.
No, not at all.
White man's burden: We're naturally superior, we need to take care of lesser humans
Privilege: Society treats X people better than Y people, maybe I shouldn't perpetuate that.
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ButtlordFornicusLord of Bondage and PainRegistered Userregular
also reminder that yeah privilege is not exclusive to race
male privilege
class privilege
don't know what you'd call it for being straight other than "it sucks to be gay in most of america"
I don't get why they couldn't call Deacon out on being racist just because he claimed he was black?
generally, liberal white people have a substantial amount of white guilt. they find it uncomfortable to point out racist remarks from someone who is not white because of this.
...and there was absolutely no one of color on these boards to call him out on it?
Working to dismantle the frameworks of privilege is the exact same thing as saying 'oh dear, those poor other groups, we really ought to lift them up to the same level as us white people', apparently.
We want to bring everybody up the ladder, not pull the ones at the top down.
So we're not lifting, then?
This is called 'being a pedant', and I would argue 'not discussing in good faith'.
Rather than attempting to use everyone's word use to critique their point, how about addressing something of substance? Such as, what's wrong with looking critically at how society enables privileged groups to succeed in ways that are not accessible to other groups, and attempting to fix that problem?
Let's stop beating around the semantics bush and address the actual substance of the point.
Working to dismantle the frameworks of privilege is the exact same thing as saying 'oh dear, those poor other groups, we really ought to lift them up to the same level as us white people', apparently.
because you're oging to pretend that's the real racism gotcha lieberal democraps
Its like you're always one step ahead.
Except you forgot to capitalize LIEberal.
see you're doing that thing again where you just make snide comments and don't say anyting of substance
Sorry, should I have italicized that, or included a picture of Free Republic?
You're doing that other thing where you pick and choose what to respond to, presumably to ignore statements you don't have a snide response for in favour of easy targets.
did you guys ever see someone you dont like a lot but they havent done anything awful in a long time so you start to feel petty but the they act a fool and everybody finally realizes how terrible they are, which you knew from the start, so youre just all 'yeah. YEAH' for a while anime
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did you guys ever see someone you dont like a lot but they havent done anything awful in a long time so you start to feel petty but the they act a fool and everybody finally realizes how terrible they are, which you knew from the start, so youre just all 'yeah. YEAH' for a while anime
yeah
yeah
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HarrierThe Star Spangled ManRegistered Userregular
I swear to God that the original "White Man's Burden" poem is meant to be sarcastic. It just reads that way. Sarcastic at whom, I'm not sure, but Kipling is raising his middle finger at somebody in that poem.
I don't wanna kill anybody. I don't like bullies. I don't care where they're from.
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You actually caught me. As an affluent straight white male, I honestly have nothing to really complain about.
I just want to feel like I belong, somewhere.
That was my first reaction upon encountering the concept. Implying that I had advantages = I cheated somehow = I should be sorry. Fuck you, I have nothing to be sorry about.
Took a couple of years and some maturity before I realized how retarded that notion is.
this is also not a thing that anybody is saying
jesus man do you understand what privilege is or not
Explain to me, oh lord of Butt.
look
privilege is just the inherent advantages you get by being a member of the dominant group
for example: white privilege means there are advantages to being white vs being a minority
that doesn't mean you're consciously taking advantage of them, or that they exist because of a thing you or yours did, or that your life is flawless
but the privilege still exists!
nobody's saying you should feel guilty about it, in fact you shouldn't because it's not a thing you have control over
just be aware of it and maybe work to make things equal for everyone
That is all.
Now we're venturing into White Man's Burden territory.
Much of these lessons can be applied to concepts of gender discrimination as well.
"let's make things equal" is not a goal that is exclusive to white people nor should it be
you didn't read a single fucking word of that, you just wanted a nice little snippet you could pick at and go "heh. you're the real racists. checkmate!"
fuck you
fixed that for ya
yep!
pretty much name a protected class
surprise you can apply that to privilege
Which I agree with, except when we're in a conversation about White Privilege.
Also, nowhere in there did I imply you were a racist. Just saying that the discussion was entering into that territory.
Working to dismantle the frameworks of privilege is the exact same thing as saying 'oh dear, those poor other groups, we really ought to lift them up to the same level as us white people', apparently.
i told you
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except it wasn't at all you goose
A) by calling "white man's burden" yes you implied that i'm racist
b) working to make sure nobody is priveleged is not lifting up the disadvantaged solel because you feel bad
you stupid goose
So we're not lifting, then?
protip: "white" isn't the only word that can be put in front of Privilege. There are all sorts of other kinds of privilege. In fact, Buttlord's explanation was clearly on privilege in general, and only used white privilege as one example. But if you look hard enough for ways to imply someone is racist rather than pay attention to what they're actually saying, I guess you can find what you need.
let's ignore the "tear it apart make shit equal" bit for now
because you're oging to pretend that's the real racism gotcha lieberal democraps
do you understand how it works
No, not at all.
White man's burden: We're naturally superior, we need to take care of lesser humans
Privilege: Society treats X people better than Y people, maybe I shouldn't perpetuate that.
male privilege
class privilege
don't know what you'd call it for being straight other than "it sucks to be gay in most of america"
i just started laughing really hard irl
This is called 'being a pedant', and I would argue 'not discussing in good faith'.
Rather than attempting to use everyone's word use to critique their point, how about addressing something of substance? Such as, what's wrong with looking critically at how society enables privileged groups to succeed in ways that are not accessible to other groups, and attempting to fix that problem?
Let's stop beating around the semantics bush and address the actual substance of the point.
Its like you're always one step ahead.
Except you forgot to capitalize LIEberal.
see you're doing that thing again where you just make snide comments and don't say anyting of substance
"I'd love to help, but that'd make me racist, so have fun with those bootstraps!"
Sorry, should I have italicized that, or included a picture of Free Republic?
don't lump my snideposts in with buttlords genuine ones
You're doing that other thing where you pick and choose what to respond to, presumably to ignore statements you don't have a snide response for in favour of easy targets.
oh god what will i tell my mother
yeah
And you continue to pound your head against a wall for his amusement.