Obama hate dwarfs Bush hate at this point. You have to wonder how much a guy can screw up to force his constituency to look back at the Bush days as "better times."
Only Bush apologists think that. Obama isn't perfect but he's ten times the man Bush is on his worst day.
And yet people still hate Obama. We hated Bush for things and reasons. Republicans just seem to be hooked up to some bottomless reservoir of hate.
EDIT: I'm still waiting for someone to just accidentally blurt out the whole word. Why you gotta keep me waiting, GOP? We came so close!
This is why I wanted Newt to get the nod. I don't know if he WOULD have said it, but given his racism and temperament, he would be the one most likely to blurt it out during the debate.
That's just excellent, we should see lots of that. Hang those statements around his neck like a noose, and drag him out to the right. He can't deny them. He has to say, "I meant every one, and I've got even more conservative craziness for you!" or his base will abandon him. He shouldn't be allowed to make a single public appearance without saying how he wants to deny women contraceptive coverage.
I don't see how Mitt can win a general - no matter where you are on the polical spectrum, he's espoused and actively worked for shit you despise.
Perception is reality, and I can't see Mitt selling himsel as anything other than a political opportunist who will say and do anything (including the exact opposite of what he's done previously or is promising to do now) is it will help his political fortunes. Which is, incidentally, the most hated stereotype of politicians across the entire political landscape.
I'm still a pessimist at heart, but if Obama can't beat this joker with an improving economy and Osama's head on a pike he'll have EARNED that loss.
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People won't think the recesssion is over until they are back to where they were before it started. You may think that's naive, or stupid, or whatever other smug goosey things you want to say, but it's a legitimate way to feel. If you take 10 steps away from the endzone, then 3 steps forward, you're still not at the goal line, no matter how much you're not receeding.
No, it is not a legitimate way to feel. It is the way the idiot public feels, but it is not legitimate. Not only is it idiotic to use words that you don't know the meaning of (and it is disingenuous to just hand-wave away their ignorance in a discussion of their ignorance) , but it is also idiotic to think that the economy is a steaming pile of crap until we're 100% back to the peak of the bubble that just burst. And it is also idiotic for half of the people surveyed to see with their own eyes that things are getting better, but 90% of the people surveyed to think that the general health of the economy is still in the toilet.
The problem is more that people think that recession means "things are bad", and not "things are getting worse"
PPP has the President up five (registered voters) in North Carolina.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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Make Mitt make selections and take positions. He will have to piss someone off, and all the Bobo's and Wills and the country club republicans won't be able to sell him.
I really want Nate Silver to start telling me what is going on. The electoral college tallies right now doesn't give Romney a win even if he takes all the toss-ups, but then there is congress.
I don't see how Mitt can win a general - no matter where you are on the polical spectrum, he's espoused and actively worked for shit you despise.
He's not black, which for a lot of people is all that matters.
Obama would have this buttoned up if he would just have less melanin, but whatever, it's his wacky choice.
Obama Campaign Promises '12:
- Eat more organic, gluten-free, soy-based products
- Buy Bruce Hornsby albums
- Learn to dance the Macarena unironically
- Catch up on old seasons of Home Improvement
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Obama Campaign Promises '12:
- Eat more organic, gluten-free, soy-based products
- Buy Bruce Hornsby albums
- Learn to dance the Macarena unironically
- Catch up on old seasons of Home Improvement
He just needs to put on an ugly sweater and do a Jell-O pudding commercial. Then people will love him. Theo! Ruday!
I am going to remain firm in the belief that most of America (sans the 20-30% that won't vote for Obama if he ran against the actual antichrist in Hitler's body. The antichrist being in Hitler's body, not Obama) is smart enough to know that
1) Obama doesn't have a secret plan to instill a communist government as soon as he gets elected to his second term
2) That Obama's statements are entirely reasonable during an election year and shouldn't be controversial at all, other than slight arrogance that he will be re-elected.
I am going to remain firm in the belief that most of America (sans the 20-30% that won't vote for Obama if he ran against the actual antichrist in Hitler's body. The antichrist being in Hitler's body, not Obama) is smart enough to know that
1) Obama doesn't have a secret plan to instill a communist government as soon as he gets elected to his second term
2) That Obama's statements are entirely reasonable during an election year and shouldn't be controversial at all, other than slight arrogance that he will be re-elected.
How many people would vote for Obama in Hitler's body
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Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
I have vivid memories of the USSR being something fearsome and out to destroy us, and even though I know that isn't really true it is hard to escape the opinions rammed into me in my formative years.
Question: Do people even give a shit about Russia anymore?
Arguably we should, but I don't think they're really worried about Putin the Communist Dragon swooping in our Freedom.
Americans desperately want someone to hate that is frequently too reasonable to actually provoke us into a major response. It's therapeutic, in its own way.
Conversely, and more specifically, Americans want every Russia leader to be Boris Yeltsin. Come next year, Putin could have tanks shoot at Russian Parliament and declare himself Defense Minister as well as President, and if he was fat, easily distracted by shiny American things and a little tipsy on occasion, we'd love him for it.
Why not? We loved autocratic Yeltsin for doing the exact same things.
Without revealing too much, and keeping in mind that this changes weekly, you would be wise to calculate that Mitt Romney has about 106 delegates less than what the national media is now showing. Santorum, even before dropping out, had about 16 less. This includes adding delegates that the media incorrectly withheld from Santorum and then subtracting its false calculations. Now add 98 delegates to Ron Paul. And you have the real picture of where it stands today.
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There is something else. Many of the delegates who have already been selected to go to Tampa and are pledged to vote for Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich are actually Ron Paul activists who were chosen as delegates because they showed up and got elected as such, not because they committed to any of the candidates. We don’t yet have a complete count on any of this but it is substantial. We are in the process of taking over the GOP at many precinct and country levels.
R.P is in it for the long haul!
This delegate skulduggery is interesting, I wonder how it'll play out.
Oh god, Dbrock. Are you so fucking desperate to be chicken little?
That isn't even bad news because it is the dumbest fucking attack in existence. They are actually trying to fight Obama's focus on income inequality by constantly reminding voters of their stance regarding the the rich.
That isn't smart with anyone but republicans.
I think you misread the article. They're trying to move the focus away from income equality to Obama's handling of the economy. They'll be using a lot of the stuff Romney's trying to use right now (like throwing out the number of jobs that were lost in the recession, without saying it was from the recession, or how women have been hurt more in Obama's economy etc.). And these attack ads aren't going to be saying anything about Republicans' or Romney's stance on the rich. They won't mention anything about them at all. They'll just be pure smears against Obama.
Without revealing too much, and keeping in mind that this changes weekly, you would be wise to calculate that Mitt Romney has about 106 delegates less than what the national media is now showing. Santorum, even before dropping out, had about 16 less. This includes adding delegates that the media incorrectly withheld from Santorum and then subtracting its false calculations. Now add 98 delegates to Ron Paul. And you have the real picture of where it stands today.
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There is something else. Many of the delegates who have already been selected to go to Tampa and are pledged to vote for Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich are actually Ron Paul activists who were chosen as delegates because they showed up and got elected as such, not because they committed to any of the candidates. We don’t yet have a complete count on any of this but it is substantial. We are in the process of taking over the GOP at many precinct and country levels.
R.P is in it for the long haul!
This delegate skulduggery is interesting, I wonder how it'll play out.
You need 1144 total of course...
Spoilers: nothing is going to happen except a lot of Ron Paul fans being disappointed.
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Without revealing too much, and keeping in mind that this changes weekly, you would be wise to calculate that Mitt Romney has about 106 delegates less than what the national media is now showing. Santorum, even before dropping out, had about 16 less. This includes adding delegates that the media incorrectly withheld from Santorum and then subtracting its false calculations. Now add 98 delegates to Ron Paul. And you have the real picture of where it stands today.
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There is something else. Many of the delegates who have already been selected to go to Tampa and are pledged to vote for Mitt Romney, Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich are actually Ron Paul activists who were chosen as delegates because they showed up and got elected as such, not because they committed to any of the candidates. We don’t yet have a complete count on any of this but it is substantial. We are in the process of taking over the GOP at many precinct and country levels.
R.P is in it for the long haul!
This delegate skulduggery is interesting, I wonder how it'll play out.
Wonderful.
I've never seen a party so eager to destroy itself.
Of course, as TPM has been pointing out all day, these attacks mean that Romney is fighting the election on Obama's terms instead of on terms more favorable to him. In other words, the President has successfully framed the issues we're currently fighting on.
Yet another instance of Republikerry.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
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That is the best political ad I've ever seen. I get to vote for James Bond? Hell yes!
Grammatically incorrect and I hear he loves Willow.
And yet people still hate Obama. We hated Bush for things and reasons. Republicans just seem to be hooked up to some bottomless reservoir of hate.
I can't wait for a debate.
This is why I wanted Newt to get the nod. I don't know if he WOULD have said it, but given his racism and temperament, he would be the one most likely to blurt it out during the debate.
Steam: pazython
Hey now. 'Obama hate' could be an adjective used to describe a group of dwarfs.
Edit: Or would that be dwarves? Hmmmm, nevermind. It's still wrong.
Quote Accuracy level: Romney
That's just excellent, we should see lots of that. Hang those statements around his neck like a noose, and drag him out to the right. He can't deny them. He has to say, "I meant every one, and I've got even more conservative craziness for you!" or his base will abandon him. He shouldn't be allowed to make a single public appearance without saying how he wants to deny women contraceptive coverage.
Perception is reality, and I can't see Mitt selling himsel as anything other than a political opportunist who will say and do anything (including the exact opposite of what he's done previously or is promising to do now) is it will help his political fortunes. Which is, incidentally, the most hated stereotype of politicians across the entire political landscape.
I'm still a pessimist at heart, but if Obama can't beat this joker with an improving economy and Osama's head on a pike he'll have EARNED that loss.
The problem is more that people think that recession means "things are bad", and not "things are getting worse"
He's not black, which for a lot of people is all that matters.
Obama would have this buttoned up if he would just have less melanin, but whatever, it's his wacky choice.
They decided they did about an hour later.
I really want Nate Silver to start telling me what is going on. The electoral college tallies right now doesn't give Romney a win even if he takes all the toss-ups, but then there is congress.
Because that's something we'll need to keep an eye on during the general election.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
GOP: We'll make a video to "subtlety" make Obama look like a communist spy.
Yet it makes him look more like James Bond.
Obama: Romney is an aweful person because of this.
And he looks aweful.
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Obama Campaign Promises '12:
- Eat more organic, gluten-free, soy-based products
- Buy Bruce Hornsby albums
- Learn to dance the Macarena unironically
- Catch up on old seasons of Home Improvement
He just needs to put on an ugly sweater and do a Jell-O pudding commercial. Then people will love him. Theo! Ruday!
To be fair, that's probably most people's response to that question. Only took me five minutes to look it up online, though.
Shakin' dat etch-a-sketch
Jesus, didn't they realize in 2008 that no one gives a shit about 007 parodies anymore? I mean, I guess aside from Archer. Which didn't exist yet.
1) Obama doesn't have a secret plan to instill a communist government as soon as he gets elected to his second term
2) That Obama's statements are entirely reasonable during an election year and shouldn't be controversial at all, other than slight arrogance that he will be re-elected.
How many people would vote for Obama in Hitler's body
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Heck, the right already has the posters.
Arguably we should, but I don't think they're really worried about Putin the Communist Dragon swooping in our Freedom.
Well, considering why we really "won" the Cold War, not a whole bunch.
Americans desperately want someone to hate that is frequently too reasonable to actually provoke us into a major response. It's therapeutic, in its own way.
Conversely, and more specifically, Americans want every Russia leader to be Boris Yeltsin. Come next year, Putin could have tanks shoot at Russian Parliament and declare himself Defense Minister as well as President, and if he was fat, easily distracted by shiny American things and a little tipsy on occasion, we'd love him for it.
Why not? We loved autocratic Yeltsin for doing the exact same things.
R.P is in it for the long haul!
This delegate skulduggery is interesting, I wonder how it'll play out.
You need 1144 total of course...
I think you misread the article. They're trying to move the focus away from income equality to Obama's handling of the economy. They'll be using a lot of the stuff Romney's trying to use right now (like throwing out the number of jobs that were lost in the recession, without saying it was from the recession, or how women have been hurt more in Obama's economy etc.). And these attack ads aren't going to be saying anything about Republicans' or Romney's stance on the rich. They won't mention anything about them at all. They'll just be pure smears against Obama.
Spoilers: nothing is going to happen except a lot of Ron Paul fans being disappointed.
Wonderful.
I've never seen a party so eager to destroy itself.
Yet another instance of Republikerry.