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[Presidential Election Thread] All Hail the Liberty Rooster.
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The only difference between Obama and Romney is one is Wall Street's slave while the other one is Wall Street. The more I read into their policies, the more I realize there's not much different between them.
2. Sorry, electing regressives that would turn back the clock, is not being better than Obama. Especially, when we consider that the current crop of them gave us Citizens United and one our conservative justices has a serious conflict of interest (Yes, I know it's his wife and that she can do her own thing but when one spouse gets offered a seat in SCOTUS, the other needs to get out of and stay out of anything that could cause a conflict of interest or the former needs to turn down the offer).
3. Hahahahahahahahahahah . . . . ahahahahahahaha. Right like how our current speaker of the house controls the tea party elements of the GOP in the house. For starters, they'll still tell him to go right the fuck off because he can't fired their insane bitch asses. Second, this only works if Romney had both integrity and a fucking spine to begin with, which mean he isn't going to do a fucking thing to reign in the batshit crazy element of the party, he won't moderate it and he'll sign pile of regressive shit they send up his way.
4. Now I know this is meant as a joke. That said, I tend to be a fairly laid back and tolerant individual, who can disagree with people without hating them. I know it's anecdotal but I view it as a bad thing when someone manages to get individuals, such as myself to hate them because when that happens, the bandwagon of hate will have been fairly packed for awhile.
If you guys wanted Gitmo closed, why did you guys throw a temper tantrum when he wanted to close it?
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Some of this things he changed and I'm glad of, but then I'm not super liberal. Many critiques I've seen of Obama from the liberal side general attribute things he never promised to him (the 08 campaign was full of people who assigned their own agenda to Obama's and they were gleefully helped by the McCain campaign).
In the Obama v Romney match up, if you care at all about progresssive issues (such as equal rights for homosexuals, equal pay for women, the ability for women to make decisions about their body without other people's religion getting in the way), if you care about the economy, if you care about our standing in the world, if you'd like to not Soviet Union our way into a collapse, then voting for Romney is a damn stupid thing to do.
That's why it seems like we're with Obama regardless. If he came out as a psychopath who wanted to turn the US in whatever the GOP spin machine is implying he'll do after the election, yeah I wouldn't vote for him. But that's not a thing that has or will happen.
I mean, a lot of that stuff is bad policy, but really, "destroying what was left of the constitution?" Hyperbole, much? Seriously, I wish someone would destroy what is left of the Constitution. It's a really fucked-up way to govern a country, created by people 200 years ago who didn't have as much understanding of government as some high school students do today.
If the only thing protecting us against the government killing us all is the fact that it's illegal, we're already completely fucked, so whatever.
Yeah, actually that would make me think about voting for Romney. If there was a GIGANTIC groundswell of democratic support and we were looking at a big supermajority for democrats in one house and a good majority in the other then maybe just maybe I would think that Romney would be a good 'Lets think a bit about this' buffer against overly aggressive legislation. Romney isn't dumb, he's just an amoral businessman who would sell his grandmother for a dollar. Combine that with an endless flow of democratic progressive legislation and a little bit of pro-business thinking could go a long way. Combine that with an endless flow of horrifying republican legislation to let the poor die in the streets and make it easier to crush the unions, and it would be a disaster.
Where did you learn to read, if I might ask? That is a really dumb thing to believe for a variety of reasons.
Only one of them is proposing a 0% cap gains tax
In what sense does Obama want income equality?
You don't consider the fact that they both support the Patriot Act, the Drug War, NDAA and hate whistleblowers a little similar. You're not gonna get anything different voting for Romney, Obama is just like Bush, a "moderate" right wing authoritarian.
I will admit him and Romney have some differences, but they are basically supporting the same terrible policies.
I'm glad civil liberties mean something to you.
Which is why Massachusetts didn't explode when he was elected up there.
But that's not what's going on now, so...
Basically, I don't trust Mitt Romney because the only example we have of how he'd act in office is his record from Massachusetts and he is running as far as possible from that.
We don't know how President Romney would be, but Candidate Romney is trying his damnedest to be a Tea Party Schill (even though they won't take him).
I'm glad facts mean something to you.
Like, seriously, grow up dude.
What about the bailout? That was basically the worst thing ever but Obama still voted for it. All it did was give a huge check to the bankers that truly run this country.
I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge fan of the way it's implemented, or the fact that we need one, but this is reality we're living in, not Peacetopia, Magical Land of Not Needing an Army When You're a Superpower.
http://www.alternet.org/rights/155045/how_obama_became_a_civil_libertarian's_nightmare/?page=entire
You mean the thing that stopped a depression? That worst thing ever?
All those actions you listened would be Tuesday for the Bush administration. Obama's still better than that.
No, see, the NDAA had Indefinite Detention amended to it by some conservative douchenozzle and since Obama didn't completely defund the military in the middle of two wars in the face of an ironclad veto proof majority, he's the Antichrist incarnate who's come to feast on your suffering and delicious civil liberties.
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He doesn't have a solution, he's just going to keep yammering about how all politicians are the same. (Except possibly RON PAUL!)
the one that give a trillion dollars to the banks and told them to do whatever they wanted with it. That one.
I never said there was any solution, the two party system has been ingrained into out national government that only a revolution would be able to change it.
No, that was Bush. Obama actually set up a system to monitor the banks and investigate any fraud they found with TARP in the second stimulus. It was lead by Joe Biden.
That was Bush, Obama set up a bunch of regulation of the bailouts he oversaw.
Methinks you don't know what you're talking about. My first clue was you saying that Bush=Obama. My second clue was everything else you've said.
And what about all of these? Some of them make Bush look good.
He's actually competent, despite what the media and Republican party thinks.
:rotate: Many of those things are presented out of context and many of them also don't actually matter. But whatever, dude, vote your values.
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This is scarily inaccurate.