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[Presidential Election Thread] All Hail the Liberty Rooster.
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http://www.colbertsuperpac.com/
Yeah, exactly. Also the superPACS make it a little easier to run really dirty, negative ads as long as the candidates can plausibly deny that they had anything to do with those ads.
EDIT: There's also a poll from a firm I don't recognize that didn't push undecideds at all that has Romney up only 42-40 in Arizona.
Can Ron Paul save us all! Maybe it's not too late for the republicans to rend each other into pieces and collapse into a broken heap.
SuperPACs will of course be a massive disaster and effectively render us into a democracy where cash is literally equal to votes but I think Obama at least has enough support to beat them. However, if citizens united doesn't fall during the next two years this may as well be the last election. It certainly will be the last election where anyone even pretends to listen to what the people want.
Ok chumbawumba, let's get back up again. This is a little silly.
If the PBS segment on it is any indication, Romney might be fucked the general election. He's going to lose voters if he picks someone who is moderate, sane or/and blander than him, but picking a hardcore conservative is going to cost him voters, possibly even energize the democrat base a little. I'm wondering how much of the base that hates Romney, but would support him will actually vote in the fall because I think some of them will be no shows. This also hits on a point brought up earlier where Romney doesn't just need them to show up and vote for him, he needs them to convince others to vote for him and I just don't see the base being that effective.
Yeah, there are studies that show it's easier to bond with people by talking about things you don't like; however, that requires both people to actively dislike enough of Obama's policies, while also not hating most of Romney's positions. I don't think there are many people left who aren't in the Romney camp already that fit the description. If I were an independent voter that was still undecided on who to vote for, the teaper/fundies/Republican/conservative telling me to vote for Romney who doesn't excite them, while coming off as a Robot to me, isn't going to convince me to vote for Romney. In fact, I have a feeling that could backfire and make independents vote for Obama because you have people who don't like the out of touch robot, telling you to support that thing over the guy that still seems human.
At this point, one would just solicit money from Democrats and claim to support Republicans in public, while keeping the donor list hidden. Ah, Super PACs, you bastions of freedom and democracy.
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That seems entirely too honest, how come Dems never get to Swift Boat anyone?
They could PAC-up and run some ads in the Mormon community talking about what a great opportunity Romney's inauguration will be to baptize the whole of Arlington National Cemetery into the faith; ensuring our fallen heroes a place by Heavenly Father's side. You know, something to remind the more bigoted of his supporters that Mormons are scary, different, and certainly no True Christians.
It's kind of hard to compare sneaking $10-15k in through family members and different campaigns to being able to just write a $15 million dollar check.
Stop being silly about Paul or about super pace? I guess i agree it is too late for Paul to do any damage other than to Romney's 'sheen' but superpacs are going to be a disaster, growing exponentially in the money they provide and the corruption they cause. If they aren't banned soon its game over.
About the Super PACs, they're awful but we'll fix it eventually so long as people don't give up and roll over.
Supposing Obama got his contributors to shift into SuperPACs, then I'd think a SuperPAC fueled Obama victory could be a slam dunk for getting some anti-PAC legislation through congress. I'm just not clear on what good it could do.
Ideally there is some limiting that can be done, but basically all you can do is mess with the campaigns themselves, not the super PACs. Unless SCOTUS overturns CU. Which is possible.
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Thank god I work next to my polling place. I would totally have forgotten.
Romney can't officially sew it up today, but he can become even more inevitable. Paul and Gingrich could also both go from "oh, they're still running?" to mathematically impossible today.
So remember the dust up that the satire site made with their joke article about Ann Romney? Well suck on reality, comedic imagination:
http://thinkprogress.org/special/2012/04/24/469896/ann-romney-women-work/?mobile=wp
It's really more of a foot in mouth than genuine sentiment, but still, hahahahaha.
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Even without the inevitability, those are the kind of states Romney's been winning anyway. If he even gets threatened in any of those states, it's a story.
November better hurry the fuck up because I don't think my forehead is structurally designed to withstand this level of facepalm. I'm afraid one of these days I'm going to cave my skull in.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Tradition_Partnership,_Inc._v._Attorney_General_of_Montana
http://shortformblog.com/post/21714794904/newt-gingrich-delaware
Looks like it's Ron Paul's race to lose!
Lolberal media, I guess?
If you want to learn more about them, you should try to find the episodes that The Colbert Report did on PACs/Super PACs. They won a Peabody for their work.
That's just about the most harsh condemnation of our media possible.
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I'd wager that it's higher than that.. The Teaper freshmen shot themselves in the foot with their war on earmarks, as now they have nothing to bring home to their constituency that is concrete.
They can't come back with "Thwarted Obama as much as possible." ?
Um, no. People like seeing concrete benefits of their Congresscritter's work.
I'm trying really hard, but I don't think there's a charitable interpretation of that comment.
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I'm not sure how effective Huntsman would be as an independent candidate. Could Huntsman even get Ron Paul levels of support?
A Huntsman/Bloomberg ticket would be a pretty epic spoiler ticket for the GOP. That would be delicious.
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