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Cantido

cj iwakura wrote: »

Cantido wrote: »

cj iwakura wrote: »

Akihiko still looks boss with one. In P4A too.

He has one? I didn't notice.

The entire cast does, except Koromaru and Aigis, and Strega.

I'm meant I didn't see him Not-Blowing-His-Brains-Out in Arena.

Tcheldor

Look under his arm. It's in a holster.

cj iwakura

He also uses it during Ziodyne and his IK.

Dalantia

He has it on a side holster, under his cape. I think he uses it for Maziodyne.

Cantido

That's fucked up, but Ill have to check it out anyway.

Zombiemambo

Junpei is my favorite character in P3. Liked him instantly and never stopped.

Spoiler:

He's a dickwad toward the middle of the plot but it's brief and his character was heading that direction the entire time

Nitsua

cj iwakura wrote: »

Cantido wrote: »

cj iwakura wrote: »

Akihiko still looks boss with one. In P4A too.

He has one? I didn't notice.

The entire cast does, except Koromaru and Aigis, and Strega.

Spoiler:

Strega has evokers..... do you forget they took one away from Chodori?

Anyhow, I've passed the 100 hourmark and just passed the school field trip. I may be staying too long in Tartarus, but how much longer do I have leftbefore the Journey is done?

Also, I disliked Junpei from the beginning becauseof Yukari... he's a pervy guy stereotype and gets on my nerves how far he takes it.

Spoiler:

The stuff with him and Chidori is good though.

Vegan

Samples of the anime's English dub.

interrobang

koromaru has an evoker

it's just not gun-shaped

Cantido

The anime...science found some way to make Yukiko even more boring, even for me. And Yosuke is stuck in hiimdaisy mode.

cj iwakura

Sounds like Yu, Yosuke, Kanji, Yukiko, Adachi, Nanako, and Dojima are the same.


Naoto and Chie sound different(again).

Cantido

Why is P3 asking why I want to Stay Awake in class. Is there a Blood Sugar/Caffeine stat I'm consuming?

interrobang

Cantido wrote: »

Why is P3 asking why I want to Stay Awake in class. Is there a Blood Sugar/Caffeine stat I'm consuming?

iirc if you fall asleep in class your condition turns to Great

but you miss out on the Knowledge boost by staying up through the lecture - and you can get your condition to Great by using the bathroom after classes most of the time anyway

Cantido

interrobang wrote: »

Cantido wrote: »

Why is P3 asking why I want to Stay Awake in class. Is there a Blood Sugar/Caffeine stat I'm consuming?

iirc if you fall asleep in class your condition turns to Great

but you miss out on the Knowledge boost by staying up through the lecture - and you can get your condition to Great by using the bathroom after classes most of the time anyway

That is fucking awesome.

Not since Duke Nukem 3D have I played a game where reliving yourself restores stats.

EDIT - Aw damn. There really is a blood sugar stamina stat.

Xenogears of Bore

Soul Hackers did around 70k this week in Japan.

PunkBoy

cj iwakura wrote: »

Sounds like Yu, Yosuke, Kanji, Yukiko, Adachi, Nanako, and Dojima are the same.


Naoto and Chie sound different(again).

Chie sounded different to me at first as well since she sounds more composed and calm than during the events of P4A. She then sounded familiar again after she started to yell as Yosuke, haha. And I don't mind at all about Naoto being voiced by Mary Elizabeth McGlynn (Major Kusanagi, Nina Williams, etc.).

Drez

Cantido wrote: »

interrobang wrote: »

Cantido wrote: »

Why is P3 asking why I want to Stay Awake in class. Is there a Blood Sugar/Caffeine stat I'm consuming?

iirc if you fall asleep in class your condition turns to Great

but you miss out on the Knowledge boost by staying up through the lecture - and you can get your condition to Great by using the bathroom after classes most of the time anyway

That is fucking awesome.

Not since Duke Nukem 3D have I played a game where reliving yourself restores stats.

EDIT - Aw damn. There really is a blood sugar stamina stat.

Which version are you playing? Maybe I'm wrong, but I found the "Great piss" for lack of a better nickname was fairly rare in P3 Vanilla, almost as (or just as) rare in P3 FES, and much more common in P3P.

I wouldn't rely on pissing yourself to Greatness that often unless you're playing P3P, and not even then.

That said, it's not worth losing points in Academics, or classroom knowledge, by sleeping in class IMO.

It should be noted that all the answers to midterm and end-of-term exams are actually given in those lectures. So if you stay awake and pay attention, you should have no problems answering those questions correctly on those exams. Of course, you could always consult a FAQ, too...

edit: Also, maybe I'm just wrong and it's the same rate in all three versions. Since there is some random chance involved, YMMV of course. That's just based on my experience with all three versions.

vagrant_winds

PunkBoy wrote: »

cj iwakura wrote: »

Sounds like Yu, Yosuke, Kanji, Yukiko, Adachi, Nanako, and Dojima are the same.


Naoto and Chie sound different(again).

Chie sounded different to me at first as well since she sounds more composed and calm than during the events of P4A. She then sounded familiar again after she started to yell as Yosuke, haha. And I don't mind at all about Naoto being voiced by Mary Elizabeth McGlynn (Major Kusanagi, Nina Williams, etc.).

So that explains why the new voice sounds badass.

Gaming-Freak

Blackjack wrote: »

Whole buncha wrong opinions up in here. All you Junpei haters probably like Aigis and Naoto too.

I like Junpei AND Naoto. Take THAT.

Blackjack

Apparently rumor is going around that Naoto in the anime is voiced by Susan Dalian who is Haku in Naruto and Storm in MvC3

Zombiemambo

Nitsua wrote: »

cj iwakura wrote: »

Cantido wrote: »

cj iwakura wrote: »

Akihiko still looks boss with one. In P4A too.

He has one? I didn't notice.

The entire cast does, except Koromaru and Aigis, and Strega.

Spoiler:

Strega has evokers..... do you forget they took one away from Chodori?

Anyhow, I've passed the 100 hourmark and just passed the school field trip. I may be staying too long in Tartarus, but how much longer do I have leftbefore the Journey is done?

Also, I disliked Junpei from the beginning becauseof Yukari... he's a pervy guy stereotype and gets on my nerves how far he takes it.

Spoiler:

The stuff with him and Chidori is good though.

You should only hit up Tartarus once a month and play through it until you hit a blockade.

Spoiler:

There are 6 blocks, with the last one opening up (IIRC) in December or January

KiTA

02./00. [3DS] Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers <RPG> (Atlus) {2012.08.30} (¥6.279) - 73.690 / NEW

Those... aren't very good numbers, are they?

heenato

Zombiemambo wrote: »

You should only hit up Tartarus once a month and play through it until you hit a blockade.

Spoiler:

There are 6 blocks, with the last one opening up (IIRC) in December or January

That's really the thing that makes me dislike P3 and 4. The game expects you to never do the actual RPG. It wants you to spend 90% of your time doing the dating sim.

Reynolds

That was also the main problem I had. I wanted to go into the dungeon and grind every day. Instead I probably spent 30 of the 40 hours I played just talking to people...when most RPGs are exactly the opposite.

Checking a FAQ and finding out I'd done literally everything wrong with the social links/stats was the last straw.

Dehumanized

The general pacing of P3/P4 is pretty bad, but I appreciate the overall mix of time spent in dungeon vs. out of dungeons... if there were more incentive to make shorter weekly trips into Tartarus/Midnight Channel instead of once a month it'd probably be close to ideal for me.

RainbowDespair

KiTA wrote: »

02./00. [3DS] Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers <RPG> (Atlus) {2012.08.30} (¥6.279) - 73.690 / NEW

Those... aren't very good numbers, are they?

Actually, those are solid numbers. Not as good as Persona 4 Golden (which did over 100k in its first week) but better than the PSP enhanced ports of Persona 2: IS (62,091) and Persona 2: EP (24,547). Given that Soul Hackers looks to have minimal new content compared to P4G and can't have cost a lot to port, I'm guessing Atlus is pleased with those figures.

Xenogears of Bore

[SAT] Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers (Atlus) {1997-11-13} - 160,850
[PS1] Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers (Atlus) {1999-04-08} - 60,905
[NDS] Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor (Atlus) {2009-01-15} - 56,689
[NDS] Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor 2 (Atlus) {2011-07-28} - 62,246
[3DS] Devil Summoner: Soul Hackers (Atlus) {2012-08-30} - 73,690

Dracil

Well to be fair, even with the once a month Tartarus thing, I'm literally spending real-time days (though I only play a few hours a day) in Tartarus on each session, grinding out xp and personas and money.

But I'm assuming this is the consequence of trying to do-it-all in one playthrough with a guide. Whereas the game was probably designed for you to figure it out on your own with multiple playthroughs and finishing the social stuff over those playthroughs.

Zombiemambo

I actually started to loathe going to Tartarus. One trip can last 2-3 hours, whereas an entire month of daily stuff takes maybe an hour. P3P added rescue missions, too, where Elizabeth gives you a range of floors a person *could* be in. They are almost always ~10 floors away from the nearest teleport.

Dehumanized

Dracil wrote: »

Well to be fair, even with the once a month Tartarus thing, I'm literally spending real-time days (though I only play a few hours a day) in Tartarus on each session, grinding out xp and personas and money.

But I'm assuming this is the consequence of trying to do-it-all in one playthrough with a guide. Whereas the game was probably designed for you to figure it out on your own with multiple playthroughs and finishing the social stuff over those playthroughs.

Yeah, I've never managed to not lose interest in the game where I try to perfect everything. But I usually will complete a playthrough where I accept the mistakes and inefficiencies.

cj iwakura

Yeah, those are fine numbers for Soul Hackers, and deservedly so. Hopefully it won't deny us it like EP's bomba did.

Cantido

P3's music reminds me of, like, every Ninja Tune* artist ever.



* Ninja Tune is the indie label that houses Amon Tobin. DJ Kentaro and Bonobo are my other favorite electronic artists of that label.

Zanshinretsu

Dehumanized wrote: »

Dracil wrote: »

Well to be fair, even with the once a month Tartarus thing, I'm literally spending real-time days (though I only play a few hours a day) in Tartarus on each session, grinding out xp and personas and money.

But I'm assuming this is the consequence of trying to do-it-all in one playthrough with a guide. Whereas the game was probably designed for you to figure it out on your own with multiple playthroughs and finishing the social stuff over those playthroughs.

Yeah, I've never managed to not lose interest in the game where I try to perfect everything. But I usually will complete a playthrough where I accept the mistakes and inefficiencies.

I did this with Devil Survivor 2 after the first playthrough. Day by day, choice by choice, following a guide. I did that to guarantee that I got the appropriate path by the end... Three times? Many times. I don't know what it is, but the SMT games just cater to the grinder in me. Something like 200+ hours at least back in the days of Nocturne. I really want them to port over those PS2 era games to PSN so I can play them on my PS3.

Edit: Since everyone's discussing Persona series characters, is it bad to say that I'm a fan of Naoto? That's only based on what I've seen of her character in P4A since I haven't played P4 yet. Soon I will have Golden and all these characters will make sense. Still, she seems like badass in P4A.

Drez

Gaming-Freak wrote: »

Blackjack wrote: »

Whole buncha wrong opinions up in here. All you Junpei haters probably like Aigis and Naoto too.

I like Junpei AND Naoto. Take THAT.

I like both Junpei and Kos-Mos. I don't understand why everyone hates Xenosaga so much.

Drez

oops

Zombiemambo

Because of Xenogears

KiTA

cj iwakura wrote: »

Yeah, those are fine numbers for Soul Hackers, and deservedly so. Hopefully it won't deny us it like EP's bomba did.

Wait, is "we're not getting EP" a definite thing now? Did it bomb? I'm confused!

I mean, isn't there a bonus for having beaten both IS and EP? Some extra dungeon or somesuch?

Dehumanized

We're still in the window where Atlus could announce it (Japanese release was in May), but usually they would have already said something by now if they planned to.

Drez

They've had a busy year.

We'll get EP, I'm sure.

Reynolds

I should really pick DS2 back up. And DDS. And SJ. I really liked Overclocked, but I think I burned out on tactics games after playing a few in a row.

I need to find somewhere to plug my PS2 back in for DDS. Not having to fuse demons made it probably the best fit for me.