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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Skull Man wrote: »
    Skull Man wrote: »
    Skull Man wrote: »
    Is it still rape if you've convinced them they want to do it
    using telepathy?

    Did they cover that in the Geneva convention?

    are you kidding?

    Yes I am. Though I do wonder how it would work from a purely legal standpoint. I doubt there are laws in place for that situation.

    oh ok

    I'd imagine that pretty much the second you could prove that someone was doing that you could apply existing laws to it

    I mean, date-rape is illegal, right?

    Is it illegal to have sex with a drunk person who says yes if they say no when they are sober the next day?

    that's not the same at all

    No, no, I'm not saying it is. I'm was more just asking. because it is kind of a similar situation.

  • mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    also it is

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    It really is pointless discussion since telepathy like that doesn't exist and I'm sure if it did there would be laws in place for it.

    Instead we should be talking about this

  • mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    dean himself at the end of the episode literally compares mind control to 'roofies'

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Can we not have this conversation here?

    So some episodes from season 7 are up on hulu if anyone cares. It's missing the first three, I watched episode 4 and 5 (or was it 5 and 6?) but then it skips to like, episode 17 and 18 or some shit.

    How upset will I be if I watch season 7 out of order?

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  • ZonugalZonugal Registered User regular
    Yeah, that's illegal.

    I know some states/districts have it that the moment you are drunk you can't properly consent to any sexual act.

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    Can we not have this conversation here?

    So some episodes from season 7 are up on hulu if anyone cares. It's missing the first three, I watched episode 4 and 5 (or was it 5 and 6?) but then it skips to like, episode 17 and 18 or some shit.

    How upset will I be if I watch season 7 out of order?

    it's a very monster of the week season, so you might be okay

    the season ends in two weeks, though

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Has it been renewed for an 8th season yet?

  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    Has it been renewed for an 8th season yet?

    yes

    with a new showrunner

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Can we not have this conversation here?

    So some episodes from season 7 are up on hulu if anyone cares. It's missing the first three, I watched episode 4 and 5 (or was it 5 and 6?) but then it skips to like, episode 17 and 18 or some shit.

    How upset will I be if I watch season 7 out of order?

    it's a very monster of the week season, so you might be okay

    the season ends in two weeks, though

    Ugh.

    Ugh.

    I hate their 'monster of the week' format.

    All the interesting shit is in the ongoing plot.

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  • mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    really hope that jo's character evolves past 'boring dean with tits thats all a love interest needs right'

  • The_TuninatorThe_Tuninator Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    I absolutely love "Ghostfacers" for allowing the Winchesters to swear as much as a couple of 20-somethings road tripping and hunting ghosts would. This was something which always mildly nagged at me on Buffy and Angel. You know those teenagers/young adults would be cursing up a storm.

    How's the most recent season been so far? I'm still on season 5.

    The_Tuninator on
  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    the current season is pretty damn good, actually

    much better than season six

  • Skull ManSkull Man Registered User regular
    Can we not have this conversation here?

    So some episodes from season 7 are up on hulu if anyone cares. It's missing the first three, I watched episode 4 and 5 (or was it 5 and 6?) but then it skips to like, episode 17 and 18 or some shit.

    How upset will I be if I watch season 7 out of order?

    it's a very monster of the week season, so you might be okay

    the season ends in two weeks, though

    Ugh.

    Ugh.

    I hate their 'monster of the week' format.

    All the interesting shit is in the ongoing plot.

    season five spoilers
    this is why I quit at the end of season 5

  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    personally, I don't really care about the ongoing plot

    it's the characters that're interesting

    plus nothing will ever be as bad as every anna episode

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    personally, I don't really care about the ongoing plot

    it's the characters that're interesting

    plus nothing will ever be as bad as every anna episode

    Uh (S6 spoilers)
    Sam and Dean are kinda boring to me.

    Crowley, Bobby, Cass, and Raphael are the interesting ones.

    Also Death, Lucifer, and the various 'good' monsters they find.

    And Raph just bit the bullet at the end of season 6.

    And just a general note (no specific spoilers)
    You can't really bitch about minority cast members dying/being the badguys since the Supernatural Modus Operandi is that non-Dean/Sam characters either die or are the badguy or both.

    More specific spoiler:
    Hell, even dean and sam die every damn season.

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  • GoatmonGoatmon I'm nodding. Is everyone else nodding?Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    Skull Man wrote: »
    Skull Man wrote: »
    Is it still rape if you've convinced them they want to do it
    using telepathy?

    Did they cover that in the Geneva convention?

    are you kidding?

    Yes I am. Though I do wonder how it would work from a purely legal standpoint. I doubt there are laws in place for that situation.

    oh ok

    I'd imagine that pretty much the second you could prove that someone was doing that you could apply existing laws to it

    I mean, date-rape is illegal, right?

    If telepathy became a thing in real life, and it was discovered that one could mind control people into having sex against their will, then laws would eventually be made against it.

    Goatmon on
  • GoatmonGoatmon I'm nodding. Is everyone else nodding?Registered User regular
    personally, I don't really care about the ongoing plot

    it's the characters that're interesting

    plus nothing will ever be as bad as every anna episode

    Uh (S6 spoilers)
    Sam and Dean are kinda boring to me.

    Crowley, Bobby, Cass, and Raphael are the interesting ones.

    Also Death, Lucifer, and the various 'good' monsters they find.

    And Raph just bit the bullet at the end of season 6.

    And just a general note (no specific spoilers)
    You can't really bitch about minority cast members dying/being the badguys since the Supernatural Modus Operandi is that non-Dean/Sam characters either die or are the badguy or both.

    More specific spoiler:
    Hell, even dean and sam die every damn season.

    Also (late season 6 spoiler)
    Turns out they've died lots of times, but Heaven kept on wiping their memories of it and sending them back, until they could finally jump start the apocalypse.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    that's a s5 spoiler

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  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    personally, I don't really care about the ongoing plot

    it's the characters that're interesting

    plus nothing will ever be as bad as every anna episode

    Uh (S6 spoilers)
    Sam and Dean are kinda boring to me.

    Crowley, Bobby, Cass, and Raphael are the interesting ones.

    Also Death, Lucifer, and the various 'good' monsters they find.

    And Raph just bit the bullet at the end of season 6.

    And just a general note (no specific spoilers)
    You can't really bitch about minority cast members dying/being the badguys since the Supernatural Modus Operandi is that non-Dean/Sam characters either die or are the badguy or both.

    More specific spoiler:
    Hell, even dean and sam die every damn season.

    all the annoying angst from season six is gone in season seven

    it feels almost like season two again

    quality-wise, and the threat is a season three type deal...no way to combat it

  • mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    oh good, thank you episode 6

    and i dont know who said that 'black people arent allowed to die/be evil'

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    really hope that jo's character evolves past 'boring dean with tits thats all a love interest needs right'

    oh she does

    she even turns dean down by saying she has self-respect in the most owny way

    also munkus already covered it but, the problem with the "evil minority" is that everybody who is not a main cast member is evil or dies or both

    and I mean pretty much everybody

    also, have they even had a hispanic or asian cast member, I seriously can't even remember

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    Skayel wrote:
    One time, I had a friend over to play a bit of Red Alert on my LAN. During the game he said he needed to go to the bathroom, so we paused it. After about 10 minutes of wondering where the hell he went, I get up and go to check on him.

    Turns out he was trying to screw my dog.
    Once I was taking a poop at a restaurant and a kid crept underneath the door into my stall. I let out a big fart and then he threw up all over the floor in front of me and I just stared at him.
  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Also, regarding minorities, most of the episodes take place in small towns in the mid-west which generally have a very white population to begin with.

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    also, zachariah is the biggest king dick of the series

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    Skayel wrote:
    One time, I had a friend over to play a bit of Red Alert on my LAN. During the game he said he needed to go to the bathroom, so we paused it. After about 10 minutes of wondering where the hell he went, I get up and go to check on him.

    Turns out he was trying to screw my dog.
    Once I was taking a poop at a restaurant and a kid crept underneath the door into my stall. I let out a big fart and then he threw up all over the floor in front of me and I just stared at him.
  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I would really like to watch this right now but I have to wait for one of the kids to go to bed or it's pointless.

  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    since when do you have to wait

    tell them kids to get the fuck to bed

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    If only it were that simple...

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    like a budgie :smugsohmer:

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    Skayel wrote:
    One time, I had a friend over to play a bit of Red Alert on my LAN. During the game he said he needed to go to the bathroom, so we paused it. After about 10 minutes of wondering where the hell he went, I get up and go to check on him.

    Turns out he was trying to screw my dog.
    Once I was taking a poop at a restaurant and a kid crept underneath the door into my stall. I let out a big fart and then he threw up all over the floor in front of me and I just stared at him.
  • The Lovely BastardThe Lovely Bastard Registered User regular
    of course it is

    just I dunno

    throw a blanket on them

    kids are like birds

  • WaltWalt Waller Arcane Enchanted Frozen ElectrifiedRegistered User regular
    It really is pointless discussion since telepathy like that doesn't exist and I'm sure if it did there would be laws in place for it.

    Instead we should be talking about this

    You know I kept thinking the first episode of Season 3 was one of my favorites in the whole series for some reason.
    Now I remember why.

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    of course it is

    just I dunno

    throw a blanket on them

    kids are like birds

    No, they are much more like dogs in that you try to discipline them and they just think you are playing and get crazier.

  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    really hope that jo's character evolves past 'boring dean with tits thats all a love interest needs right'

    oh she does

    she even turns dean down by saying she has self-respect in the most owny way

    also munkus already covered it but, the problem with the "evil minority" is that everybody who is not a main cast member is evil or dies or both

    and I mean pretty much everybody

    also, have they even had a hispanic or asian cast member, I seriously can't even remember

    Aside from maybe a chick that Dean fucks and forgets or an unnamed extra that dies? Nope.

    I can't think of a single asian character that was plot device important. Or hell, even named 'monster of the week' important. The closest was
    the Chinese speaking god from the hotel

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  • mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    well i mean im not saying that a black guy being the bad guy was the problem, i thought his character was really interesting

    its that they represented that character by having him bully innocent white women and not even be able to hold his ground against a white man, which is very very problematic if you look at it through any historic lens

    also that they had a whole thing about 'black and white and gray' but decided that he
    was definitely evil for trying to kill vampires that they trusted would never eat humans

    like, i wasnt siding with him at any point but what he did at the end wasnt that far off from what sam/dean did to meg at the end of season 1, and the line 'crossed' seemed way too arbitrary for me to be happy with how they treated him (remember they tied him up, obviously hated him, punched him so hard he fell backward and then said that he would have to wait days for rescue)

    though that last part wasnt about his race, i just thought it was generally lame

    and theyve been through enough cities that their general representation so far for minorities (one stereotype, one woman that was pretty decent but still HAD to be tied to a story about racism) is pretty lackluster

    and if you can believe in ghosts and plot convenient psychic powers i dont think its a stretch to have more breaks from every episode featuring 'BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER' over and over

    and jo was an okay character in the end even though i cant stand her attitude of hunting being a fun adventure

  • ZonugalZonugal Registered User regular
    There was an Asian actress in the Ghostfacers episode. She's the "step-sister" to one of the nerds.

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  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Time for AFTER SCHOOL SPECIAL

  • GoatmonGoatmon I'm nodding. Is everyone else nodding?Registered User regular
    well i mean im not saying that a black guy being the bad guy was the problem, i thought his character was really interesting

    its that they represented that character by having him bully innocent white women and not even be able to hold his ground against a white man, which is very very problematic if you look at it through any historic lens

    also that they had a whole thing about 'black and white and gray' but decided that he
    was definitely evil for trying to kill vampires that they trusted would never eat humans

    like, i wasnt siding with him at any point but what he did at the end wasnt that far off from what sam/dean did to meg at the end of season 1, and the line 'crossed' seemed way too arbitrary for me to be happy with how they treated him (remember they tied him up, obviously hated him, punched him so hard he fell backward and then said that he would have to wait days for rescue)

    though that last part wasnt about his race, i just thought it was generally lame

    and theyve been through enough cities that their general representation so far for minorities (one stereotype, one woman that was pretty decent but still HAD to be tied to a story about racism) is pretty lackluster

    and if you can believe in ghosts and plot convenient psychic powers i dont think its a stretch to have more breaks from every episode featuring 'BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER' over and over

    and jo was an okay character in the end even though i cant stand her attitude of hunting being a fun adventure
    Well... the problem with Gordon wasn't about him wanting to kill vampires. Had it been John (Dad) instead of Gordon, he would have probably done mostly the same thing. The difference is that Gordon wasn't doing it to help anyone. He was doing it because he enjoys killing things, even if those things are going out of their way to not hurt anyone and to stay out of trouble.

    He even went so far as to torture the one vampire who was most responsible for keeping the rest of them in check. That is a very bad person.

  • mensch-o-maticmensch-o-matic Registered User regular
    Goatmon wrote: »
    well i mean im not saying that a black guy being the bad guy was the problem, i thought his character was really interesting

    its that they represented that character by having him bully innocent white women and not even be able to hold his ground against a white man, which is very very problematic if you look at it through any historic lens

    also that they had a whole thing about 'black and white and gray' but decided that he
    was definitely evil for trying to kill vampires that they trusted would never eat humans

    like, i wasnt siding with him at any point but what he did at the end wasnt that far off from what sam/dean did to meg at the end of season 1, and the line 'crossed' seemed way too arbitrary for me to be happy with how they treated him (remember they tied him up, obviously hated him, punched him so hard he fell backward and then said that he would have to wait days for rescue)

    though that last part wasnt about his race, i just thought it was generally lame

    and theyve been through enough cities that their general representation so far for minorities (one stereotype, one woman that was pretty decent but still HAD to be tied to a story about racism) is pretty lackluster

    and if you can believe in ghosts and plot convenient psychic powers i dont think its a stretch to have more breaks from every episode featuring 'BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER' over and over

    and jo was an okay character in the end even though i cant stand her attitude of hunting being a fun adventure
    Well... the problem with Gordon wasn't about him wanting to kill vampires. Had it been John (Dad) instead of Gordon, he would have probably done mostly the same thing. The difference is that Gordon wasn't doing it to help anyone. He was doing it because he enjoys killing things, even if those things are going out of their way to not hurt anyone and to stay out of trouble.

    He even went so far as to torture the one vampire who was most responsible for keeping the rest of them in check. That is a very bad person.
    it came across way more that his life was ruined by vampires and that he'd lost any empathy for them as people. also remember that he had spent most of his life hunting a usually very evil creature, even if he was exceptionally cruel about it

  • Raijin QuickfootRaijin Quickfoot I got the shotgun, you got the briefcase It's all in the game though, right?Registered User, ClubPA regular
    The dude they got to play high school Dean is pretty legit.

  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    Goatmon wrote: »
    well i mean im not saying that a black guy being the bad guy was the problem, i thought his character was really interesting

    its that they represented that character by having him bully innocent white women and not even be able to hold his ground against a white man, which is very very problematic if you look at it through any historic lens

    also that they had a whole thing about 'black and white and gray' but decided that he
    was definitely evil for trying to kill vampires that they trusted would never eat humans

    like, i wasnt siding with him at any point but what he did at the end wasnt that far off from what sam/dean did to meg at the end of season 1, and the line 'crossed' seemed way too arbitrary for me to be happy with how they treated him (remember they tied him up, obviously hated him, punched him so hard he fell backward and then said that he would have to wait days for rescue)

    though that last part wasnt about his race, i just thought it was generally lame

    and theyve been through enough cities that their general representation so far for minorities (one stereotype, one woman that was pretty decent but still HAD to be tied to a story about racism) is pretty lackluster

    and if you can believe in ghosts and plot convenient psychic powers i dont think its a stretch to have more breaks from every episode featuring 'BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER' over and over

    and jo was an okay character in the end even though i cant stand her attitude of hunting being a fun adventure
    Well... the problem with Gordon wasn't about him wanting to kill vampires. Had it been John (Dad) instead of Gordon, he would have probably done mostly the same thing. The difference is that Gordon wasn't doing it to help anyone. He was doing it because he enjoys killing things, even if those things are going out of their way to not hurt anyone and to stay out of trouble.

    He even went so far as to torture the one vampire who was most responsible for keeping the rest of them in check. That is a very bad person.
    it came across way more that his life was ruined by vampires and that he'd lost any empathy for them as people. also remember that he had spent most of his life hunting a usually very evil creature, even if he was exceptionally cruel about it
    the whole thing is to not become the monster that you are hunting, and that will become a WAY BIGGER theme later on so no super spoilers

    keep in mind that the boys and john had their lives ruined by demons, and yet the still will deal with some of them

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    Skayel wrote:
    One time, I had a friend over to play a bit of Red Alert on my LAN. During the game he said he needed to go to the bathroom, so we paused it. After about 10 minutes of wondering where the hell he went, I get up and go to check on him.

    Turns out he was trying to screw my dog.
    Once I was taking a poop at a restaurant and a kid crept underneath the door into my stall. I let out a big fart and then he threw up all over the floor in front of me and I just stared at him.
  • GoatmonGoatmon I'm nodding. Is everyone else nodding?Registered User regular
    Goatmon wrote: »
    well i mean im not saying that a black guy being the bad guy was the problem, i thought his character was really interesting

    its that they represented that character by having him bully innocent white women and not even be able to hold his ground against a white man, which is very very problematic if you look at it through any historic lens

    also that they had a whole thing about 'black and white and gray' but decided that he
    was definitely evil for trying to kill vampires that they trusted would never eat humans

    like, i wasnt siding with him at any point but what he did at the end wasnt that far off from what sam/dean did to meg at the end of season 1, and the line 'crossed' seemed way too arbitrary for me to be happy with how they treated him (remember they tied him up, obviously hated him, punched him so hard he fell backward and then said that he would have to wait days for rescue)

    though that last part wasnt about his race, i just thought it was generally lame

    and theyve been through enough cities that their general representation so far for minorities (one stereotype, one woman that was pretty decent but still HAD to be tied to a story about racism) is pretty lackluster

    and if you can believe in ghosts and plot convenient psychic powers i dont think its a stretch to have more breaks from every episode featuring 'BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER BEAUTIFUL WHITE WOMAN IN DANGER' over and over

    and jo was an okay character in the end even though i cant stand her attitude of hunting being a fun adventure
    Well... the problem with Gordon wasn't about him wanting to kill vampires. Had it been John (Dad) instead of Gordon, he would have probably done mostly the same thing. The difference is that Gordon wasn't doing it to help anyone. He was doing it because he enjoys killing things, even if those things are going out of their way to not hurt anyone and to stay out of trouble.

    He even went so far as to torture the one vampire who was most responsible for keeping the rest of them in check. That is a very bad person.
    it came across way more that his life was ruined by vampires and that he'd lost any empathy for them as people. also remember that he had spent most of his life hunting a usually very evil creature, even if he was exceptionally cruel about it
    Dude was enjoying torturing Lenore. That's not just just cruel and obsessive, that's straight-up sadism. The guy enjoys it on a psychotic level.

    It's worse for the fact that the vampire refused to give in to her own cravings despite all that he put her through, validating everything she was doing. Dude's a monster.

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