[CRYSIS 3] ~ OUT NOW~

Der Waffle Mous

Fairchild wrote: »

Iron Man, BOLO, the Stainless Steel Rat, Mass Effect 2, Half Life, Planescape: Torment, Halo, the System Shock and Bioshock serieses. The idea of a warrior's weapon taking over so that the line between warrior and weapon becomes blurred has a long history in fantasy/science fiction.

You're really reaching with some of those.

Fairchild

Indeed. I was going to list some of the Iron Man clones until I realized that Holy Cow, Marvel sure went to the "villain trapped inside a metal suit that is killing him while simultaneously keeping him alive" well a few too many times.

Der Waffle Mous

That'll happen with 50+ years of material.

That said, I think we might be talking about different things.

Darmak

People arguing over dumb shit on the internet? Well I'll be fucked, I haven't ever seen that before!

That said, I enjoyed the hell out of Crysis and never played the sequel. I might get around to it one of these days but I will say that I am definitely interested in this. I don't care how silly fighting advanced robots/aliens with a bow and arrows is, I also think it's awesome! Like someone mentioned earlier in the thread, it reminded me of Turok and that's a good thing.

Darlan

Oh I don't mind the bow so much, I was just trying to joke about how maximum strength might help with its use.

Zzulu

Wouldn't that just break the bow?

I hope the minigun makes a return

Arivia

Der Waffle Mous wrote: »

That'll happen with 50+ years of material.

That said, I think we might be talking about different things.

Notably after Extremis, Iron Man isn't reaching at all.

TOGSolid

Zzulu wrote: »

Wouldn't that just break the bow?

I hope that maximum speed turns the bow into an arrow launching minigun.

FTFY

Shimshai

Zzulu wrote: »

Wouldn't that just break the bow?

I hope the minigun makes a return

It could have a 200lb draw weight or something like that.

A compound that required maximum strength to actually draw would be absurdly powerful.

surrealitycheck

well

200lb draw weight is at the upper end of estimates for british longbows

so crysis dude should be doing like 1 ton draw this dudes rippedz

Mr.Sunshine

So every part of Crysis 3 will be like this.



No explosive tips required.

TheGerbil

Complete with back arching right before the explosion.

THESPOOKY

Der Waffle Mous wrote: »

Fairchild wrote: »

Zzulu wrote: »

I hope they expand on the suit stuff. If we're playing as Prophet during events set after Crysis 2, then that means Alcatraz and Prophet completely merged at the end of Crysis 2 and now they're basically not even human anymore. They're 2 people physically and mentally merged with an intelligent cyber-armor. The moment in Crysis 2 where they made it clear that you're essentially dead and that the only thing keeping you going is the suit was a really neat moment of Sci-fi in the games

If only we hadn't seen it about 93 times before in a wide variety of science fiction stories.

There's the Guyver, WH40K Phoenix Lords and.....?

OH MY FUCK gimme a Guyver game in the same vein as Crysis and I'll be as happy as I can be until they make the next Legacy of Kain.

More on topic: Weird that they're calling your character "Prophet", but it's cool that they are going to try out many kinds of environments, even if the reason for it is contrived. Hell, a more insane sci-fi turn might actually make an interesting story out of Crysis 2's threads. Seriously, as fun as the game was, it was $30 console game quality story.

Darmak

surrealitycheck wrote: »

well

200lb draw weight is at the upper end of estimates for british longbows

so crysis dude should be doing like 1 ton draw this dudes rippedz

I be merkin all dem hoez

Shimshai

surrealitycheck wrote: »

well

200lb draw weight is at the upper end of estimates for british longbows

so crysis dude should be doing like 1 ton draw this dudes rippedz

Thought they were only about 100lbs but then I don't know much about the old longbows.

Stolls

Honestly, I've found the series' plot, such as it is, was far more tolerable when it wasn't trying to be clever: just a spec ops dude with a neat suit trying to sort out a catastrofuck because that's his job. When it turns out the suit is part of some crazy alien technology and there's an old dude trying to exploit it and the guy who was last using it is still possessing it somehow and the child of a more entertaining character is a double agent and the important scientist is just a jumped-up conspiracy theorist and

Eventually I just had to tune it out. There are some neat ideas in there, and some legitimately good lines of dialogue, but it really felt like two or three sci-fi concepts too many. I can also say I was not pleased when shooting ten exploding rounds from a mounted gun didn't make a tree so much as budge. Not even a particularly big tree, just this little twig of a thing between the gun and the door you're supposed to shoot. Just stood out all the more to me.

Not to say Crysis 2 was a bad game - still better than a lot of shooters I've played - just that I prefer the first game in pretty much every aspect. The sequel was at its best when you were just trying to manage the situation without delving too deeply into the 'why' of it.

Edit: Also, I soured on the sequel more when it stated/implied that Nomad and Psycho

Spoiler:

were dead. Don't remember the exact context, but either Prophet or Hargreave mention this at some point. Psycho in particular is the closest thing the series has to a complex character, which I admit isn't saying much.

Zzulu

Psycho

Rumor is that Psycho will return in Crysis 3 so rejoice

Echo

Lalabox wrote: »

The game looks pretty cool, I could definately go for an overgrown New York environment. And both 1 and 2 were hella solid shooters. But still, 'Cell pursuing world-domination'?? 'Cell creating bio-domes'? The story looks off the rails. Hopefully it is good off the rails, not terrible off the rails.

Richard Morgan wrote the story for Crysis 2. He had to work with what he was given, but I like most of what he did with it. Some really good lines there.

Zzulu wrote: »

I hope they expand on the suit stuff. If we're playing as Prophet during events set after Crysis 2, then that means Alcatraz and Prophet completely merged at the end of Crysis 2 and now they're basically not even human anymore. They're 2 people physically and mentally merged with an intelligent cyber-armor. The moment in Crysis 2 where they made it clear that you're essentially dead and that the only thing keeping you going is the suit was a really neat moment of Sci-fi in the games

Visit yonder adlibris.se and get Altered Carbon by Richard Morgan right now. I command it.

Heisenberg

I'm bored of most linear shooters these days but I had an absolute blast with Crysis 2 and Rage, to name a couple that came out last year or the year prior to that. It's good that this one is going more sandboxy, though for some reason I doubt that if it's going on consoles. Can't see the 360 handling the amount of landspace Crysis 1 covered.

edit: Nomad and Psycho coming back would be awesome. I also want some new environments and more challening/less boring enemies. An actual antagonist would be nice too.

Neli

I believe they can achieve really large areas if they forego the physics in the environment. I think most of the destructible terrain and stuff was disabled in Crysis 2 so it'll probably be disabled in Crysis 3 as well, to accomodate for the consoles hardware

Zxerol

Well, except they did port Crysis 1 to the consoles (sans the VTOL level).

Heisenberg

Oh nevermind then

Lalabox

Echo wrote: »

Lalabox wrote: »

The game looks pretty cool, I could definately go for an overgrown New York environment. And both 1 and 2 were hella solid shooters. But still, 'Cell pursuing world-domination'?? 'Cell creating bio-domes'? The story looks off the rails. Hopefully it is good off the rails, not terrible off the rails.

Richard Morgan wrote the story for Crysis 2. He had to work with what he was given, but I like most of what he did with it. Some really good lines there.

Oh yeah, 2 had some pretty good stuff, and it was reasonably engaging story-wise. I'm saying that 3 looks a little bit wierd. That's basically just from those two paraphrased sentenses though. The story could still be pretty great. But cell never seemed like a world-domination type organisation. Also, I wonder why the aliens didn't create the biodome. That's pretty much what they did in 1. And these are different aliens to the ice ones.

I just hope that if it goes off the rails, it goes off the rails in a somewhat entertaining manner.

Neli

It took them almost 4 years to optimize the original for consoles and even then the game doesn't perform as well. I imagine it's a lot harder to come out with something so optimized out of the gate at launch

Waffen

Stolls wrote: »

Honestly, I've found the series' plot, such as it is, was far more tolerable when it wasn't trying to be clever: just a spec ops dude with a neat suit trying to sort out a catastrofuck because that's his job. When it turns out the suit is part of some crazy alien technology and there's an old dude trying to exploit it and the guy who was last using it is still possessing it somehow and the child of a more entertaining character is a double agent and the important scientist is just a jumped-up conspiracy theorist and

Eventually I just had to tune it out. There are some neat ideas in there, and some legitimately good lines of dialogue, but it really felt like two or three sci-fi concepts too many. I can also say I was not pleased when shooting ten exploding rounds from a mounted gun didn't make a tree so much as budge. Not even a particularly big tree, just this little twig of a thing between the gun and the door you're supposed to shoot. Just stood out all the more to me.

Not to say Crysis 2 was a bad game - still better than a lot of shooters I've played - just that I prefer the first game in pretty much every aspect. The sequel was at its best when you were just trying to manage the situation without delving too deeply into the 'why' of it.

Edit: Also, I soured on the sequel more when it stated/implied that Nomad and Psycho

Spoiler:

were dead. Don't remember the exact context, but either Prophet or Hargreave mention this at some point. Psycho in particular is the closest thing the series has to a complex character, which I admit isn't saying much.

Character Spoilers from the Comics

Spoiler:

Nomad is dead. They killed him and that scientist lady from Crysis 1 in the Crysis 2 prequel comics. I hope they retcon that decision to kill him though. I liked Nomad as vague as his character was. It would be nice to see Delta Team reunite.

Heisenberg

Link to prequel comic?

Waffen

Heisenberg wrote: »

Link to prequel comic?

http://crysis.wikia.com/wiki/Crysis_Comic

Lalabox

When did crysis 2 get a prequel comic? Was it any good?

Local H Jay

Neli wrote: »

It took them almost 4 years to optimize the original for consoles and even then the game doesn't perform as well. I imagine it's a lot harder to come out with something so optimized out of the gate at launch

uh, BF3 looked amazing day one on 360 and PS3. sure you had to a buttload of installing but, it looked great and has the destructibility from the PC version in tact.
they could easily do something like this for crysis 3, especially since it's EA and they have access to the frostbite engine.

Neli

BF3 console version can't support the same map sizes or player counts or visuals as the PC version so it's hardly the same deal. It's 64 vs 24 player maps which is a big big difference in that game.

They have to sacrficie in Crysis 3 if they're going to make it both beautiful and sandbox

Movitz

So there's a new trailer out that shows some gameplay.

http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/first-crysis-3-gameplay-trailer-revealed

It seems all kinds of "meh" to me. Needs more lush open jungle and less night time rastafari-alien punching.

Ed. Hmm, how do I embed movies?

Rami

Zzulu wrote:

on a quest to rediscover his humanity and exact brutal revenge.

Nothing says humanity like brutal mass murder.

Video game writing! :rotate:

Skull2185

Rami wrote: »

Zzulu wrote:

on a quest to rediscover his humanity and exact brutal revenge.

Nothing says humanity like brutal mass murder.

Video game writing! :rotate:

Well... an FPS that scrimps on brutal mass murder wouldn't exactly sell well.

Blackbird SR-71C

"Comming 2013"

Darn! Hate it when games are announced so long before release. Best to just forget about it for now, that'll make the wait shorter and surprise bigger.

Heisenberg

Looks like it could barely pass for even Crysis 2.5, maybe just an expansion. All of the settings in that trailer were identical and rather boring.

Daemonion

surrealitycheck wrote: »

well

200lb draw weight is at the upper end of estimates for british longbows

so crysis dude should be doing like 1 ton draw this dudes rippedz

Yea, he better be packing more than a 60lb draw for fighting mechanized aliens.

I hope you'll be able to bounce arrows off of surfaces. It'd be a fun little distraction.

surrealitycheck

killing off nomad offscreen is pretty lame

they should make the hero for crysis 3 a random chick because fuck it why not

Neli

Nomad wasn't much of a character though

The Black Hunter

That's why he was great, he was just "me".

Lalabox

Just saying that the e3 footage was pretty poor. Game'll probably be pretty cool, but advancing slowing along the ground seems to be the opposite of what crysis is about.