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[StarCraft2] POST IN THE NEW THREAD. DIABLO KILLED THIS ONE.

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edited May 2012 in Games and Technology
Welcome to the Starcraft 2 thread
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Here's the TL thread


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The PA Crane Kick program!

We here at PA are a nice, friendly, bunch that want to help each other get better at SC2, typically through light-hearted pokes and jabs. But some players require a little more hands-on training. So, I have decided to create a Karate Kid style teacher and student program known hence forth as the Crane Kick program. Basically, one of our higher league players will personally train a lower level one on some aspect of their game they want to improve.

Fill out this form to join in! After filling out the form, look at the list of players found here and simply PM the coach/player you are interested in working with. Set up a time/date, communication software, and discuss what you want to learn/teach. GLHF!

Please read the following details to help things go smoothly:
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Let's see if we can get this thing off the ground and really help each other out more!


I want to play SC2 awesome like everyone else!

So, the SC2 thread goes a million miles per hour and will leave you in the dust if you aren't prepared. All things are open to discussion here from build orders, practice partners, race match-ups, tournament talk, and general bizarre Korean stuff. In order to keep up, I highly recommend you check out the following resources:

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OK that's all cool, but I want to play with some PA people.
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JK. I like watching Starcraft instead. Where can I watch some good games?
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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    From old thread, a great way to start a new one... finding out we're all mental cases.

    Article on a drug being tested for internet addiction:
    http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/pha/18/4/297/

    We hypothesized that 6 weeks of bupropion sustained release (SR) treatment would decrease craving for Internet game play as well as video game cue-induced brain activity in patients with Internet video game addiction (IAG).

    Eleven subjects who met criteria for IAG, playing StarCraft (>30 hr/week), and eight healthy comparison subjects (HC) who had experience playing StarCraft (<3 days/week and <1 hr/day).

    Witty signature comment goes here...

    wra
  • SaarutoSaaruto Registered User regular
    30+ hours a week of SC? That's...quite a lot of time.

    If you can chill, chill.
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  • RofflorRofflor Registered User regular
    We sure got all the anger issues that junkies do when the stuff is bad (imba races, imba builds).

    When is the next Ritb MMMig?

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  • jaziekjaziek Registered User regular
    I certainly don't play for 30 hours a week, but if you count the time I spend watching and reading about starcraft as well, yeah it might come close to that.

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  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Rofflor wrote: »
    We sure got all the anger issues that junkies do when the stuff is bad (imba races, imba builds).

    When is the next Ritb MMMig?

    Something is coming soon, for sure.

    Very soon.

    Like, 8-pool soon.

    Witty signature comment goes here...

    wra
  • crucialityfactorcrucialityfactor Registered User regular
    Better tank my ranking and switch to zero then!

  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    Yeah I play a whole lot and I'm pretty sure I don't hit 30 hours a week. I guess its possible but even with 4s and mods I don't think I do

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  • 815165815165 Registered User regular
    I wonder how much more I'd hate myself if I played thirty hours a week.

  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    The Starcraft 2 editor can go fuck itself. Specifically the data editor. I'm cool with the terrain and trigger editors, but the data editor can go fuck itself.

    Was the simplicity of the Warcraft 3 object editor too easy to use? Was setting stuff like damage directly on the unit a bad thing? You don't even set it on the weapon. The weapon makes an effect and the effect does the damage. And if it's an attack with a projectile, then the weapon has an effect that just launches the projectile and then that has the effect that does the damage.

    And then for the tooltip it doesn't automatically figure it out from the effect or have manual data entry. You pick an effect for the tooltip to pull data from. So potentially you can have a completely unrelated effect for the tooltip numbers. What's the point of being able to make tooltips that lie to you?

    I'm sure someone all this complexity is good for someone out there, but it sure as hell ain't me that just wants to try and make a TD because that seems like something somewhat simple.

    Also, why just four cliff layers in SC2? You can't even have units or structures on the bottom one. Meanwhile, I fired up the WC3 editor and could have up to 15 cliff layers.

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  • iowaiowa Registered User regular
    you man the island and the cocaine and the elegant cars
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  • Panda4YouPanda4You Registered User regular
    Saaruto wrote: »
    PvP on Metropolis, some diamond tried to wall off like a FFE. It felt dirty to 4gate and have a proxy pylon in his main, but he was asking for it! I can't let stupid play like that go unpunished.

    Are people trying to FFE in non PvZ matchups now or something?

    Someone's gotta learn 'em.
    Just the other day someone tried to canrush my building nat, on Metalopolis, so I waited for the two pylons and three cans to finish; aborted the nat and double-exp:ed the gold and third. Felt mighty smug about myself until I was reminded he could warp-in at those two pylons...

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    This music is being (preemptively) removed from the public domain; it's being stolen from the people."
  • TL DRTL DR Registered User regular
    Yesterday I tried a 10-gate, sent my zealot to protect my probe and dropped a cannon to deny a zerg's fast expansion.

    "fucking cannon rush cheeser diaf"

    :bz

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  • mastmanmastman Registered User regular
    TL DR wrote: »
    Yesterday I tried a 10-gate, sent my zealot to protect my probe and dropped a cannon to deny a zerg's fast expansion.

    "fucking cannon rush cheeser diaf"

    :bz

    I'd call that a resounding success

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  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    A BM Zerg? SHOCKING! :P I got my first "fuck terran" ever y'day on my random account.


    I do wonder why there are only 3 (effectively) levels allowed on maps. I'm not saying you need 15, but 3 is somewhat limiting.

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  • PeewiPeewi Registered User regular
    So here I thought I had somewhat figured out the data editor, but now I have a copy of the photon cannon that doesn't make any sound when it's attacking.

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  • RedOneRedOne Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    A BM Zerg? SHOCKING! :P I got my first "fuck terran" ever y'day on my random account.


    I do wonder why there are only 3 (effectively) levels allowed on maps. I'm not saying you need 15, but 3 is somewhat limiting.

    because ramps are bullshit

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  • RedOneRedOne Registered User regular
    also, @jaziek

    how many games have you left while you were actually even or ahead? dont be idra

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  • LoserForHireXLoserForHireX Registered User regular
    Zergs are the most BM against Terran. The people who are the worst are always the Zerg.

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  • Panda4YouPanda4You Registered User regular
    That's because we fucking hate terrans.

    "In this discussion of copyright it's actually appropriate to call it theft:
    This music is being (preemptively) removed from the public domain; it's being stolen from the people."
  • mEEksamEEksa Registered User regular
    Stephano has decided to take another year off school and will be heading back to Korea in a little over a month. :^:

  • iowaiowa Registered User regular
    mEEksa wrote: »
    Stephano has decided to take another year off school and will be heading back to Korea in a little over a month. :^:
    http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=330654

    good. the kid must have made bank.

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  • iowaiowa Registered User regular
    why would you even quit to study. you can go study any time. there's an opportunity window for being an esports star. ee han timing, mother fucker

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  • mEEksamEEksa Registered User regular
    Yeah, considering he's made over $100,000 of prize winnings alone in a year of playing Starcraft, it seems a little silly to stop now. By the time he goes back to school, he'll have it completely paid off with a lot of money to spare.

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    French Public University is free I believe.

    Witty signature comment goes here...

    wra
  • LoserForHireXLoserForHireX Registered User regular
    MMMig wrote: »
    French Public University is free I believe.

    fucking zerg socialism is what that is

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  • mEEksamEEksa Registered User regular
    MMMig wrote: »
    French Public University is free I believe.

    Seriously!? Be right back, moving to France.

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Same thing in Peru.

    For the swarm, bitches!

    Witty signature comment goes here...

    wra
  • iowaiowa Registered User regular
    p sure most of western europe/scandinavia has free public edu right.

    someday ill move to sweden and live in paradise

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  • jaziekjaziek Registered User regular
    RedOne wrote: »
    also, @jaziek

    how many games have you left while you were actually even or ahead? dont be idra

    I don't leave games I know I'm ahead in.

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  • BiosysBiosys Registered User regular
    edited April 2012
    their are fees for uni in france but they're incredibly small for public ones (like 150-700 euros), for some private stuff it's a looooot more but still

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_France#Tuition_costs

    i don't think fees were ever a problem for stephano, and i don't think he was ever really gonna quit after just a year either

    also fuuckkkkkk france have it good re: higher education

    edit: that's his plan i think VVVVVV

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  • interrobanginterrobang kawaii as  hellRegistered User regular
    isn't stephano like, in for real-reals med school? or is that just something he plans on doing

  • fatalspoonsfatalspoons Registered User regular
    I have no idea how to deal with the 3 pylon block on the ramp. I tried doing the drone drill but that apparently didn't work.

  • KambingKambing Registered User regular
    Don't let it happen. 14 pool/16 hatch and send two drones down to lay down the hatch. If he concedes the hatch without a fight and if he hasn't laid down a nexus or additional pylons at his main, then patrol your 2nd drone at the bottom of the ramp.

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  • shwaipshwaip Registered User regular
    I have no idea how to deal with the 3 pylon block on the ramp. I tried doing the drone drill but that apparently didn't work.

    drone drill only works on certain positions/maps, best thing to do is what kambling suggested and stop it from happening.

  • fatalspoonsfatalspoons Registered User regular
    Ugh. Protoss early game is so annoying. Terran is so much easier.

  • mEEksamEEksa Registered User regular
    If it does happen, cancel the hatch, build it somewhere else, spread a creep tumour and build a spine, then move the spine to the top of your ramp to kill the pylons. Take your natural after that. You'll be behind but it is still possible to salvage the game.

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
    Or, just go nydus hydras.

    EZ win.

    Witty signature comment goes here...

    wra
  • PantsBPantsB Registered User regular
    Yeah don't 15 hatch ZvP, its not worth it. Even without a 3 pylon block you can get cannoned.

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  • shwaipshwaip Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    Yeah don't 15 hatch ZvP, its not worth it. Even without a 3 pylon block you can get cannoned.

    protoss still like to 3pylon block when you pool first

  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Peewi wrote: »
    The Starcraft 2 editor can go fuck itself. Specifically the data editor. I'm cool with the terrain and trigger editors, but the data editor can go fuck itself.

    Was the simplicity of the Warcraft 3 object editor too easy to use? Was setting stuff like damage directly on the unit a bad thing? You don't even set it on the weapon. The weapon makes an effect and the effect does the damage. And if it's an attack with a projectile, then the weapon has an effect that just launches the projectile and then that has the effect that does the damage.

    And then for the tooltip it doesn't automatically figure it out from the effect or have manual data entry. You pick an effect for the tooltip to pull data from. So potentially you can have a completely unrelated effect for the tooltip numbers. What's the point of being able to make tooltips that lie to you?

    I'm sure someone all this complexity is good for someone out there, but it sure as hell ain't me that just wants to try and make a TD because that seems like something somewhat simple.

    Also, why just four cliff layers in SC2? You can't even have units or structures on the bottom one. Meanwhile, I fired up the WC3 editor and could have up to 15 cliff layers.

    I want to say its because the Warcraft 3 setting had a lot of hills and stuff, and making believable mountain ranges required a lot of cliff edges stacked on top of one another.

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