Avengers is zooming right along. It sank Battleship over the weekend and grabbed another $55 million.
It's the fastest to $450 million (domestically), beating 2nd place (Dark Knight) to that amount by 10 days. Its all-time take is #4 worldwide and #6 domestic.
It is up against MIB III next weekend, though, so it's time at #1 is about out. It will probably settle in comfortably at #3 on both lists behind Avatar and Titanic.
Which is amazing.
Marvel execs must be dancing such a dance of joy.
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Marvel should be happy because their little gamble ("Hey, what if we actually made GOOD comic movies?") paid off big time, but Disney had a lot to recoup thanks to John Carter tanking.
I really hope this movie has a commentary iirc most Marvel films don't (Maybe Thor does. I know Iron man and Incredible hulk don't.) but I would love to hear Joss just expand on some scenes
Thor,Captain America & Iron Man 2 have commentaries by their directors on dvd. Avengers might since Whedon has done that before with his projects. I'm interested in hearing what he has to say, I'd also like to have him do it with the cast as well.
Hmm I haven't got Cap or Thor yet. May have to remedy that. I didn't like Iron man two so I skipped it on DVD. I sorta want to hear that commentary though.
There's a comic series going on right now that takes place in movie continuity and follows black widow tracking down Starktech that Hammer Industries sold right before shit went down in Iron Man 2. It take place in-between Iron Man 2 and The Avenger. The main crux of the plot involves
A former "fan" of the Black Widow, a spy known as "Sophia," is disappointed her "hero" went soft by working for SHIELD and no longer wantonly killing people. So shr becomes her rival wants to replace Natascha as the Black Widow.
Okay. Personally I'd prefer she did some more lead roles, and some minor ones, to give her more experience & prove herself beyond Haywire before giving her any high profile Marvel heroes to play. Until then we've got plenty of talented, experienced actresses to fill their spots.
Okay. Personally I'd prefer she did some more lead roles, and some minor ones, to give her more experience & prove herself beyond Haywire before giving her any high profile Marvel heroes to play. Until then we've got plenty of talented, experienced actresses to fill their spots.
Haywire was enough for me. Carano has a unique build and would be believable for a tough lady superhero role.
Most actresses are super skinny and look like they would get carried off by a stiff wind. Carano does not.
Okay. Personally I'd prefer she did some more lead roles, and some minor ones, to give her more experience & prove herself beyond Haywire before giving her any high profile Marvel heroes to play. Until then we've got plenty of talented, experienced actresses to fill their spots.
Haywire was enough for me. Carano has a unique build and would be believable for a tough lady superhero role.
Most actresses are super skinny and look like they would get carried off by a stiff wind. Carano does not.
Which can be solved with making them build up their bodies, something Hemseworth & Evans did for their roles. I'm sure Johannsen beefed up for Avengers, too. We just didn't see much since her costume covered her body up. Bale did this Batman Begins after The Machinist. A perfect body for a super-hero means shit when the actor or actress is unprepared for the role. That's why Matt Damon is a good action star and John Cena is not.
Okay. Personally I'd prefer she did some more lead roles, and some minor ones, to give her more experience & prove herself beyond Haywire before giving her any high profile Marvel heroes to play. Until then we've got plenty of talented, experienced actresses to fill their spots.
Haywire was enough for me. Carano has a unique build and would be believable for a tough lady superhero role.
Most actresses are super skinny and look like they would get carried off by a stiff wind. Carano does not.
Which can be solved with making them build up their bodies for the role, something Hemseworth & Evans did for their roles. I'm sure Johannsen beefed up for her role in Avengers, too. We just didn't see much since her costume covered her body up. Bale did this Batman Begins after The Machinist. A perfect body for a super-hero means shit when the actor or actress is unprepared for the role. That's why Matt Damon is a good action star and John Cena is not.
You have a point, though I do maintain that Carano was more than sufficient in the acting department in Haywire. I think it probably depends on the director, though. Soderbergh is heavy on working with actors to get their best performance (I mean, the lead in The Girlfriend Experience was Sasha Grey, a porn star who pretty much kept her clothes on).
She might have more trouble with a less-actor-centric director, I admit.
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Okay. Personally I'd prefer she did some more lead roles, and some minor ones, to give her more experience & prove herself beyond Haywire before giving her any high profile Marvel heroes to play. Until then we've got plenty of talented, experienced actresses to fill their spots.
Haywire was enough for me. Carano has a unique build and would be believable for a tough lady superhero role.
Most actresses are super skinny and look like they would get carried off by a stiff wind. Carano does not.
Which can be solved with making them build up their bodies for the role, something Hemseworth & Evans did for their roles. I'm sure Johannsen beefed up for her role in Avengers, too. We just didn't see much since her costume covered her body up. Bale did this Batman Begins after The Machinist. A perfect body for a super-hero means shit when the actor or actress is unprepared for the role. That's why Matt Damon is a good action star and John Cena is not.
You have a point, though I do maintain that Carano was more than sufficient in the acting department in Haywire. I think it probably depends on the director, though. Soderbergh is heavy on working with actors to get their best performance (I mean, the lead in The Girlfriend Experience was Sasha Grey, a porn star who pretty much kept her clothes on).
She might have more trouble with a less-actor-centric director, I admit.
He's a good director for her to start then. It's good he's able to make her transition into professional acting smooth. She might work well with Whedon, I think he does that too. Sasha Grey isn't limited to movies with her acting, she's had a reoccurring or supporting role in Entourage. Roles in TV are good for gaining experience than movies since actors are given more time on screen and less pressure. There's a reason all the main Avengers roles were all from acting veterans, after all. Not that new actors can't do well, they're just greater risks.
Avengers is zooming right along. It sank Battleship over the weekend and grabbed another $55 million.
It's the fastest to $450 million (domestically), beating 2nd place (Dark Knight) to that amount by 10 days. Its all-time take is #4 worldwide and #6 domestic.
It is up against MIB III next weekend, though, so it's time at #1 is about out. It will probably settle in comfortably at #3 on both lists behind Avatar and Titanic.
Which is amazing.
Marvel execs must be dancing such a dance of joy.
Marvel execs, but not necessarily Disney ones. They're still reeling from past failures.
John Carter available on Blu-Ray June 5th!
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Avengers is zooming right along. It sank Battleship over the weekend and grabbed another $55 million.
It's the fastest to $450 million (domestically), beating 2nd place (Dark Knight) to that amount by 10 days. Its all-time take is #4 worldwide and #6 domestic.
It is up against MIB III next weekend, though, so it's time at #1 is about out. It will probably settle in comfortably at #3 on both lists behind Avatar and Titanic.
Which is amazing.
Marvel execs must be dancing such a dance of joy.
Marvel execs, but not necessarily Disney ones. They're still reeling from past failures.
John Carter available on Blu-Ray June 5th!
It's really too bad that John Carter didn't do better. It was actually pretty good for the kind of movie it set out to be. Terrible name choice. Should've been "Princess of Mars".
Avengers is zooming right along. It sank Battleship over the weekend and grabbed another $55 million.
It's the fastest to $450 million (domestically), beating 2nd place (Dark Knight) to that amount by 10 days. Its all-time take is #4 worldwide and #6 domestic.
It is up against MIB III next weekend, though, so it's time at #1 is about out. It will probably settle in comfortably at #3 on both lists behind Avatar and Titanic.
Which is amazing.
And what lesson do I worry they will take from this?
Avengers is zooming right along. It sank Battleship over the weekend and grabbed another $55 million.
It's the fastest to $450 million (domestically), beating 2nd place (Dark Knight) to that amount by 10 days. Its all-time take is #4 worldwide and #6 domestic.
It is up against MIB III next weekend, though, so it's time at #1 is about out. It will probably settle in comfortably at #3 on both lists behind Avatar and Titanic.
Which is amazing.
Marvel execs must be dancing such a dance of joy.
Marvel execs, but not necessarily Disney ones. They're still reeling from past failures.
John Carter available on Blu-Ray June 5th!
It's really too bad that John Carter didn't do better. It was actually pretty good for the kind of movie it set out to be. Terrible name choice. Should've been "Princess of Mars".
Nah, "John Carter of Mars". Movie series usually start with the name title in the first installment.
Avengers is zooming right along. It sank Battleship over the weekend and grabbed another $55 million.
It's the fastest to $450 million (domestically), beating 2nd place (Dark Knight) to that amount by 10 days. Its all-time take is #4 worldwide and #6 domestic.
It is up against MIB III next weekend, though, so it's time at #1 is about out. It will probably settle in comfortably at #3 on both lists behind Avatar and Titanic.
Which is amazing.
Marvel execs must be having Numfar do the dance of joy.
Oh wow, Mark Linn-Baker is still an active TV actor to this day.
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Which compounds my amazement that no principle actors in the growing suite of Marvel films have been typecast by their superhero commitments. Sort of the anti-Christopher Reeve situation. Mark Ruffalo, Robert Downey Jr., Scarlett Johansson...they can do any part they want.
Maybe Clark Gregg is susceptible to this? Like if you saw him on a television sitcom tomorrow, would the effect be jarring? Would you not be able to get over the "That's Agent Coulson!" thing?
Uh, it's really soon to suggest that Mark Ruffalo is or isn't being typecast due to his work on the Avengers. Movie has been out for all of two and a half weeks.
EDIT: And really, has ANY actor besides Christopher Reeves been typecast because of a superhero movie?
Uh, it's really soon to suggest that Mark Ruffalo is or isn't being typecast due to his work on the Avengers. Movie has been out for all of two and a half weeks.
EDIT: And really, has ANY actor besides Christopher Reeves been typecast because of a superhero movie?
Not since the leads in superhero flicks starting going to established, well-known actors.
Ruffalo's been in a ton of stuff and is recognizable by many. I liked him in Zodiac, for instance. Maybe his star shines less brightly than the rest of the ensemble cast, but not by very much.
Agent Coulson for life would be my call as most vulnerable to typecasting stigmas.
Uh, it's really soon to suggest that Mark Ruffalo is or isn't being typecast due to his work on the Avengers. Movie has been out for all of two and a half weeks.
EDIT: And really, has ANY actor besides Christopher Reeves been typecast because of a superhero movie?
Oh wow, Mark Linn-Baker is still an active TV actor to this day.
(clumsy transition)
Which compounds my amazement that no principle actors in the growing suite of Marvel films have been typecast by their superhero commitments. Sort of the anti-Christopher Reeve situation. Mark Ruffalo, Robert Downey Jr., Scarlett Johansson...they can do any part they want.
Maybe Clark Gregg is susceptible to this? Like if you saw him on a television sitcom tomorrow, would the effect be jarring? Would you not be able to get over the "That's Agent Coulson!" thing?
Clark Gregg was in a sitcom with Julia Louis-Dreyfuss, New Adventures of Old Christine. And yea, it was kind of strange for me to see Agent Coulson in the 'dopey dry humor comic-relief neighbor' role. He was pretty funny though. I actually stopped channel surfing and watched only because I recognized him.
As much as I like She-Hulk as a character, I really don't like the idea of trying to translate her to film. The name is almost as difficult to get past as any of the 'Black-' character names for black superheroes. And I feel like it would take literally the best director/writer combo ever to make her anything less than a sad rehash of regular Hulk.
As much as I like She-Hulk as a character, I really don't like the idea of trying to translate her to film. The name is almost as difficult to get past as any of the 'Black-' character names for black superheroes. And I feel like it would take literally the best director/writer combo ever to make her anything less than a sad rehash of regular Hulk.
It'd be funny if she just insisted on going by her name. The other characters are like, "Should I call you She-Hulk?" and she's like, "Ehh... just call me 'Jenny'."
As much as I like She-Hulk as a character, I really don't like the idea of trying to translate her to film. The name is almost as difficult to get past as any of the 'Black-' character names for black superheroes. And I feel like it would take literally the best director/writer combo ever to make her anything less than a sad rehash of regular Hulk.
Really? May I ask how much you know of the character? Because she isn't really anything like him. She isn't a giant rage addict. She is in complete control of her transformations and basically lives her normal life as a lawyer while also being a superhero.
Beyond the turning green and muscled thing they just arn't similar characters.
As much as I like She-Hulk as a character, I really don't like the idea of trying to translate her to film. The name is almost as difficult to get past as any of the 'Black-' character names for black superheroes. And I feel like it would take literally the best director/writer combo ever to make her anything less than a sad rehash of regular Hulk.
They could go full-on comedy. She-Hulk's twist has always been that she's a lawyer who turns into a green super-strong lawyer. Since she doesn't do the rage-out Hulk thing, her conflict has always been about balancing her real job as a lawyer with the constant pressures to become a superhero.
As much as I like She-Hulk as a character, I really don't like the idea of trying to translate her to film. The name is almost as difficult to get past as any of the 'Black-' character names for black superheroes. And I feel like it would take literally the best director/writer combo ever to make her anything less than a sad rehash of regular Hulk.
It'd be funny if she just insisted on going by her name. The other characters are like, "Should I call you She-Hulk?" and she's like, "Ehh... just call me 'Jenny'."
That's standard operating procedure in the MCU. Super-heroes rarely get called their codenames in the movies.
As much as I like She-Hulk as a character, I really don't like the idea of trying to translate her to film. The name is almost as difficult to get past as any of the 'Black-' character names for black superheroes. And I feel like it would take literally the best director/writer combo ever to make her anything less than a sad rehash of regular Hulk.
Really? May I ask how much you know of the character? Because she isn't really anything like him. She isn't a giant rage addict. She is in complete control of her transformations and basically lives her normal life as a lawyer while also being a superhero.
Beyond the turning green and muscled thing they just arn't similar characters.
Exactly. She'd fit it well with the MCU given a grounded characterization. She's closer to Matt Murdock/Daredevil than the Hulk.
As much as I like She-Hulk as a character, I really don't like the idea of trying to translate her to film. The name is almost as difficult to get past as any of the 'Black-' character names for black superheroes. And I feel like it would take literally the best director/writer combo ever to make her anything less than a sad rehash of regular Hulk.
They could go full-on comedy. She-Hulk's twist has always been that she's a lawyer who turns into a green super-strong lawyer. Since she doesn't do the rage-out Hulk thing, her conflict has always been about balancing her real job as a lawyer with the constant pressures to become a superhero.
I disagree. I'd prefer to make her a high powered kick-ass attorney who just happens to turn into a Hulk, not Ally McBeal. It would be interesting to see her helping Banner/Hulk from authorities legally while he's in hiding. She's not only been a lawyer, in PAD's run she was a bounty hunter.
As much as I like She-Hulk as a character, I really don't like the idea of trying to translate her to film. The name is almost as difficult to get past as any of the 'Black-' character names for black superheroes. And I feel like it would take literally the best director/writer combo ever to make her anything less than a sad rehash of regular Hulk.
It'd be funny if she just insisted on going by her name. The other characters are like, "Should I call you She-Hulk?" and she's like, "Ehh... just call me 'Jenny'."
That's standard operating procedure in the MCU. Super-heroes rarely get called their codenames in the movies.
As much as I like She-Hulk as a character, I really don't like the idea of trying to translate her to film. The name is almost as difficult to get past as any of the 'Black-' character names for black superheroes. And I feel like it would take literally the best director/writer combo ever to make her anything less than a sad rehash of regular Hulk.
Really? May I ask how much you know of the character? Because she isn't really anything like him. She isn't a giant rage addict. She is in complete control of her transformations and basically lives her normal life as a lawyer while also being a superhero.
Beyond the turning green and muscled thing they just arn't similar characters.
Exactly. She'd fit it well with the MCU given a grounded characterization. She's closer to Matt Murdock/Daredevil than the Hulk.
As much as I like She-Hulk as a character, I really don't like the idea of trying to translate her to film. The name is almost as difficult to get past as any of the 'Black-' character names for black superheroes. And I feel like it would take literally the best director/writer combo ever to make her anything less than a sad rehash of regular Hulk.
They could go full-on comedy. She-Hulk's twist has always been that she's a lawyer who turns into a green super-strong lawyer. Since she doesn't do the rage-out Hulk thing, her conflict has always been about balancing her real job as a lawyer with the constant pressures to become a superhero.
I disagree. I'd prefer to make her a high powered kick-ass attorney who just happens to turn into a Hulk, not Ally McBeal. It would be interesting to see her helping Banner/Hulk from authorities legally while he's in hiding. She's not only been a lawyer, in PAD's run she was a bounty hunter.
If Marvel sticks with their current habit of keeping the characters like their book counterparts, it will be a comedy. She-Hulk's book was pretty much like I described - wacky hijinks about being a superpowered lawyer with the occasional dramatic arcs.
If Marvel sticks with their current habit of keeping the characters like their book counterparts, it will be a comedy. She-Hulk's book was pretty much like I described - wacky hijinks about being a superpowered lawyer with the occasional dramatic arcs.
Ugh. I hope not in this case. With the Hulk tv series being greenlit she may show up there. There's no way they'd keep her a comedy relief assisting the Hulk. It is not good to have one of their high profile female super-hero's a comic relief while her male counterpart and his colleagues are treated seriously IMO.
If Marvel sticks with their current habit of keeping the characters like their book counterparts, it will be a comedy. She-Hulk's book was pretty much like I described - wacky hijinks about being a superpowered lawyer with the occasional dramatic arcs.
Ugh. I hope not in this case. With the Hulk tv series being greenlit she may show up there. There's no way they'd keep her a comedy relief assisting the Hulk. It is not good to have one of their high profile female super-hero's a comic relief while her male counterpart and his colleagues are treated seriously IMO.
Why?
Marvel's doing a great job putting out a diversified slate of films with a lot of different tones - they're going supernatural with Dr. Strange and space opera with Guardians of the Galaxy next. I'd like to see them expand that range to do comedy, gritty street action, horror and the like.
If Marvel sticks with their current habit of keeping the characters like their book counterparts, it will be a comedy. She-Hulk's book was pretty much like I described - wacky hijinks about being a superpowered lawyer with the occasional dramatic arcs.
Ugh. I hope not in this case. With the Hulk tv series being greenlit she may show up there. There's no way they'd keep her a comedy relief assisting the Hulk. It is not good to have one of their high profile female super-hero's a comic relief while her male counterpart and his colleagues are treated seriously IMO.
Why?
Marvel's doing a great job putting out a diversified slate of films with a lot of different tones - they're going supernatural with Dr. Strange and space opera with Guardians of the Galaxy next. I'd like to see them expand that range to do comedy, gritty street action, horror and the like.
If Marvel sticks with their current habit of keeping the characters like their book counterparts, it will be a comedy. She-Hulk's book was pretty much like I described - wacky hijinks about being a superpowered lawyer with the occasional dramatic arcs.
Ugh. I hope not in this case. With the Hulk tv series being greenlit she may show up there. There's no way they'd keep her a comedy relief assisting the Hulk. It is not good to have one of their high profile female super-hero's a comic relief while her male counterpart and his colleagues are treated seriously IMO.
Why?
Marvel's doing a great job putting out a diversified slate of films with a lot of different tones - they're going supernatural with Dr. Strange and space opera with Guardians of the Galaxy next. I'd like to see them expand that range to do comedy, gritty street action, horror and the like.
I'd like them to expand like that, as well.
I think Marvel's long-term plan is to become a new Disney. By that I mean that Marvel wants to make Marvel films on a regular basis for a long time. When the superhero fad fades, Marvel will still keep making Marvel films. Other studios in the future will be seen as making Marvel films when they develop their own superhero films.
And they certainly have the right corporate owners to pull that off.
If Marvel sticks with their current habit of keeping the characters like their book counterparts, it will be a comedy. She-Hulk's book was pretty much like I described - wacky hijinks about being a superpowered lawyer with the occasional dramatic arcs.
Ugh. I hope not in this case. With the Hulk tv series being greenlit she may show up there. There's no way they'd keep her a comedy relief assisting the Hulk. It is not good to have one of their high profile female super-hero's a comic relief while her male counterpart and his colleagues are treated seriously IMO.
Why?
Marvel's doing a great job putting out a diversified slate of films with a lot of different tones - they're going supernatural with Dr. Strange and space opera with Guardians of the Galaxy next. I'd like to see them expand that range to do comedy, gritty street action, horror and the like.
I'd like them to expand like that, as well.
I think Marvel's long-term plan is to become a new Disney. By that I mean that Marvel wants to make Marvel films on a regular basis for a long time. When the superhero fad fades, Marvel will still keep making Marvel films. Other studios in the future will be seen as making Marvel films when they develop their own superhero films.
And they certainly have the right corporate owners to pull that off.
I'd like that to happen. It would be nice to see them branching out to adapting other licenses like they did in the comics with G.I. Joe, Transformers, Rom the Space Knight, Star Wars, Conan the Barbarian etc.
If Marvel sticks with their current habit of keeping the characters like their book counterparts, it will be a comedy. She-Hulk's book was pretty much like I described - wacky hijinks about being a superpowered lawyer with the occasional dramatic arcs.
Ugh. I hope not in this case. With the Hulk tv series being greenlit she may show up there. There's no way they'd keep her a comedy relief assisting the Hulk. It is not good to have one of their high profile female super-hero's a comic relief while her male counterpart and his colleagues are treated seriously IMO.
Why?
Marvel's doing a great job putting out a diversified slate of films with a lot of different tones - they're going supernatural with Dr. Strange and space opera with Guardians of the Galaxy next. I'd like to see them expand that range to do comedy, gritty street action, horror and the like.
I'd like them to expand like that, as well.
I think Marvel's long-term plan is to become a new Disney. By that I mean that Marvel wants to make Marvel films on a regular basis for a long time. When the superhero fad fades, Marvel will still keep making Marvel films. Other studios in the future will be seen as making Marvel films when they develop their own superhero films.
And they certainly have the right corporate owners to pull that off.
I'd like that to happen. It would be nice to see them branching out to adapting other licenses like they did in the comics with G.I. Joe, Transformers, Rom the Space Knight, Star Wars, Conan the Barbarian etc.
I love how, in the comics, Marvel has lost the rights to ROM but still manage to use him all the damn time.
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IIRC they lost the rights to ROM, but everything else in that world like other Space Knights are fair game. It's why they mention him in the second most recent Annihilators mini but don't actually say his name.
If Marvel sticks with their current habit of keeping the characters like their book counterparts, it will be a comedy. She-Hulk's book was pretty much like I described - wacky hijinks about being a superpowered lawyer with the occasional dramatic arcs.
Ugh. I hope not in this case. With the Hulk tv series being greenlit she may show up there. There's no way they'd keep her a comedy relief assisting the Hulk. It is not good to have one of their high profile female super-hero's a comic relief while her male counterpart and his colleagues are treated seriously IMO.
Why?
Marvel's doing a great job putting out a diversified slate of films with a lot of different tones - they're going supernatural with Dr. Strange and space opera with Guardians of the Galaxy next. I'd like to see them expand that range to do comedy, gritty street action, horror and the like.
I'd like them to expand like that, as well.
I think Marvel's long-term plan is to become a new Disney. By that I mean that Marvel wants to make Marvel films on a regular basis for a long time. When the superhero fad fades, Marvel will still keep making Marvel films. Other studios in the future will be seen as making Marvel films when they develop their own superhero films.
And they certainly have the right corporate owners to pull that off.
I'd like that to happen. It would be nice to see them branching out to adapting other licenses like they did in the comics with G.I. Joe, Transformers, Rom the Space Knight, Star Wars, Conan the Barbarian etc.
I love how, in the comics, Marvel has lost the rights to ROM but still manage to use him all the damn time.
If Marvel sticks with their current habit of keeping the characters like their book counterparts, it will be a comedy. She-Hulk's book was pretty much like I described - wacky hijinks about being a superpowered lawyer with the occasional dramatic arcs.
Ugh. I hope not in this case. With the Hulk tv series being greenlit she may show up there. There's no way they'd keep her a comedy relief assisting the Hulk. It is not good to have one of their high profile female super-hero's a comic relief while her male counterpart and his colleagues are treated seriously IMO.
Why?
Marvel's doing a great job putting out a diversified slate of films with a lot of different tones - they're going supernatural with Dr. Strange and space opera with Guardians of the Galaxy next. I'd like to see them expand that range to do comedy, gritty street action, horror and the like.
I'd like them to expand like that, as well.
I think Marvel's long-term plan is to become a new Disney. By that I mean that Marvel wants to make Marvel films on a regular basis for a long time. When the superhero fad fades, Marvel will still keep making Marvel films. Other studios in the future will be seen as making Marvel films when they develop their own superhero films.
And they certainly have the right corporate owners to pull that off.
I'd like that to happen. It would be nice to see them branching out to adapting other licenses like they did in the comics with G.I. Joe, Transformers, Rom the Space Knight, Star Wars, Conan the Barbarian etc.
I love how, in the comics, Marvel has lost the rights to ROM but still manage to use him all the damn time.
How did they accomplish that?
Mention his name. Show him out of armor. Show him in silhouette. Show him in a slightly different armor. Just say fuck it and show him in the old armor because fuck Mattel.
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I'd say more like the Disney execs.
Marvel should be happy because their little gamble ("Hey, what if we actually made GOOD comic movies?") paid off big time, but Disney had a lot to recoup thanks to John Carter tanking.
They're both really good.
That sounds terrible.
Carano could be the body they amplify via CGI, with Harmon doing the voice over and use special effects to put her face on Carano's body.
Who the hell is "Crush"? Sure Harmon is batshit crazy but she's a good actress.
Corano's Gladiator name
Okay. Personally I'd prefer she did some more lead roles, and some minor ones, to give her more experience & prove herself beyond Haywire before giving her any high profile Marvel heroes to play. Until then we've got plenty of talented, experienced actresses to fill their spots.
Haywire was enough for me. Carano has a unique build and would be believable for a tough lady superhero role.
Most actresses are super skinny and look like they would get carried off by a stiff wind. Carano does not.
Which can be solved with making them build up their bodies, something Hemseworth & Evans did for their roles. I'm sure Johannsen beefed up for Avengers, too. We just didn't see much since her costume covered her body up. Bale did this Batman Begins after The Machinist. A perfect body for a super-hero means shit when the actor or actress is unprepared for the role. That's why Matt Damon is a good action star and John Cena is not.
Also, The Wolverine is going to start filming in August.
You have a point, though I do maintain that Carano was more than sufficient in the acting department in Haywire. I think it probably depends on the director, though. Soderbergh is heavy on working with actors to get their best performance (I mean, the lead in The Girlfriend Experience was Sasha Grey, a porn star who pretty much kept her clothes on).
She might have more trouble with a less-actor-centric director, I admit.
He's a good director for her to start then. It's good he's able to make her transition into professional acting smooth. She might work well with Whedon, I think he does that too. Sasha Grey isn't limited to movies with her acting, she's had a reoccurring or supporting role in Entourage. Roles in TV are good for gaining experience than movies since actors are given more time on screen and less pressure. There's a reason all the main Avengers roles were all from acting veterans, after all. Not that new actors can't do well, they're just greater risks.
Marvel execs, but not necessarily Disney ones. They're still reeling from past failures.
John Carter available on Blu-Ray June 5th!
Did Wolverine get a director?
Also, Lobo was recently confirmed PG-13 so it's going to be pretty heavily lobotomized. (no pun intended)
It's really too bad that John Carter didn't do better. It was actually pretty good for the kind of movie it set out to be. Terrible name choice. Should've been "Princess of Mars".
I can either see Avengers a third time, or something else. Something that's not Battleship.
Man I need this thing on Blu Ray now.
And what lesson do I worry they will take from this?
MORE SUPERHEROES = MORE MONEY.
Nah, "John Carter of Mars". Movie series usually start with the name title in the first installment.
That's not the Dance of Joy.
This is.
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Which compounds my amazement that no principle actors in the growing suite of Marvel films have been typecast by their superhero commitments. Sort of the anti-Christopher Reeve situation. Mark Ruffalo, Robert Downey Jr., Scarlett Johansson...they can do any part they want.
Maybe Clark Gregg is susceptible to this? Like if you saw him on a television sitcom tomorrow, would the effect be jarring? Would you not be able to get over the "That's Agent Coulson!" thing?
EDIT: And really, has ANY actor besides Christopher Reeves been typecast because of a superhero movie?
Not since the leads in superhero flicks starting going to established, well-known actors.
Ruffalo's been in a ton of stuff and is recognizable by many. I liked him in Zodiac, for instance. Maybe his star shines less brightly than the rest of the ensemble cast, but not by very much.
Agent Coulson for life would be my call as most vulnerable to typecasting stigmas.
Clark Gregg was in a sitcom with Julia Louis-Dreyfuss, New Adventures of Old Christine. And yea, it was kind of strange for me to see Agent Coulson in the 'dopey dry humor comic-relief neighbor' role. He was pretty funny though. I actually stopped channel surfing and watched only because I recognized him.
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It'd be funny if she just insisted on going by her name. The other characters are like, "Should I call you She-Hulk?" and she's like, "Ehh... just call me 'Jenny'."
Really? May I ask how much you know of the character? Because she isn't really anything like him. She isn't a giant rage addict. She is in complete control of her transformations and basically lives her normal life as a lawyer while also being a superhero.
Beyond the turning green and muscled thing they just arn't similar characters.
They could go full-on comedy. She-Hulk's twist has always been that she's a lawyer who turns into a green super-strong lawyer. Since she doesn't do the rage-out Hulk thing, her conflict has always been about balancing her real job as a lawyer with the constant pressures to become a superhero.
That's standard operating procedure in the MCU. Super-heroes rarely get called their codenames in the movies.
Exactly. She'd fit it well with the MCU given a grounded characterization. She's closer to Matt Murdock/Daredevil than the Hulk.
I disagree. I'd prefer to make her a high powered kick-ass attorney who just happens to turn into a Hulk, not Ally McBeal. It would be interesting to see her helping Banner/Hulk from authorities legally while he's in hiding. She's not only been a lawyer, in PAD's run she was a bounty hunter.
If Marvel sticks with their current habit of keeping the characters like their book counterparts, it will be a comedy. She-Hulk's book was pretty much like I described - wacky hijinks about being a superpowered lawyer with the occasional dramatic arcs.
Ugh. I hope not in this case. With the Hulk tv series being greenlit she may show up there. There's no way they'd keep her a comedy relief assisting the Hulk. It is not good to have one of their high profile female super-hero's a comic relief while her male counterpart and his colleagues are treated seriously IMO.
Why?
Marvel's doing a great job putting out a diversified slate of films with a lot of different tones - they're going supernatural with Dr. Strange and space opera with Guardians of the Galaxy next. I'd like to see them expand that range to do comedy, gritty street action, horror and the like.
I'd like them to expand like that, as well.
I think Marvel's long-term plan is to become a new Disney. By that I mean that Marvel wants to make Marvel films on a regular basis for a long time. When the superhero fad fades, Marvel will still keep making Marvel films. Other studios in the future will be seen as making Marvel films when they develop their own superhero films.
And they certainly have the right corporate owners to pull that off.
I'd like that to happen. It would be nice to see them branching out to adapting other licenses like they did in the comics with G.I. Joe, Transformers, Rom the Space Knight, Star Wars, Conan the Barbarian etc.
I love how, in the comics, Marvel has lost the rights to ROM but still manage to use him all the damn time.
How did they accomplish that?
Mention his name. Show him out of armor. Show him in silhouette. Show him in a slightly different armor. Just say fuck it and show him in the old armor because fuck Mattel.
They've pretty much covered all the bases.