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[Game On] Shadowrun 3rd "Just Another Day in Paradise." Chapter 2 "Paradise"

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  • ChrysisChrysis Registered User regular
    Damn, that Dwarf is a stat monster. I'll try and put something up tonight.

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  • rucdocrucdoc Crazy guy in the corner ClassifiedRegistered User regular
    too much munchkin do you think?

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  • ChrysisChrysis Registered User regular
    Probably not. He doesn't really have the active skills to make really good use of all his stats, he's just going to be really good in combat. And given the only other details we've got is an elf who doesn't know how to use any weapons having a combatant is probably good.

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  • rucdocrucdoc Crazy guy in the corner ClassifiedRegistered User regular
    The lack of skills gives him room for improvement, besides he's young having to many high level skills would be wrong, right?

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  • ChrysisChrysis Registered User regular
    If you wanted to be a munchkin, you'd be playing a Troll with a longbow. Penetrate tank armour with arrows all day every day.

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  • rucdocrucdoc Crazy guy in the corner ClassifiedRegistered User regular
    Yes but then I might not be picked to be a member of the party :P

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    seriously

    does this widely accepted character generator not have a function for output to anything but a giant html/xml table

    because if I have to hand copy all this stuff I'm not going to be happy I did all this work

    ps I made a troll with a bow and it's HILARIOUS. I should probably not be allowed to watch Duck Dynasty while making shadowrun characters
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  • ChrysisChrysis Registered User regular
    I was just doing the math on Troll bows, and it looks like I overestimated their penetrating power. While a Citymaster & Banshee would be A-OK, every other vehicle in the core book would be right fucked.

    Also, looks like you forgot to set the chargen to only allow core book options. None of the fancy arrows nor the Shock Lock rounds are in the core book, they're all in a splat somewhere.

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  • rucdocrucdoc Crazy guy in the corner ClassifiedRegistered User regular
    I need to do my gear and stuff

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    Chrysis wrote: »
    I was just doing the math on Troll bows, and it looks like I overestimated their penetrating power. While a Citymaster & Banshee would be A-OK, every other vehicle in the core book would be right fucked.

    Also, looks like you forgot to set the chargen to only allow core book options. None of the fancy arrows nor the Shock Lock rounds are in the core book, they're all in a splat somewhere.

    It was not a serious offering, but I'll leave him on the table if it really cracks up the GM

    Vehicle armor is actually in an entirely different class from body armor and has additional rules - I believe non armor piercing weapons are halved against it to start with. It's actually very hard to take out a car with a single shot in SR

    Here is a real character:
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  • ChrysisChrysis Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    OK, got something together. Still can't decide on a short-barreled or normal shotgun. Let's go with normal and a Streetsweeper which is almost exactly the same as the short-barreled shotgun. Can I assume that ammo is interchangeable given they're both shotguns?
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    Looks like I accidentally got some non-corebook stuff. Is a tent and sleeping bag going to be an issue? Turning that output into a post was a pain.

    EDIT: Updated with post Rigger 3 additions

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  • illgottengainsillgottengains Registered User regular
    Ok folks! Happy to see our first character submissions come in. If you folks will email your characters I'll load them up in my nsrcg for easy access. Once everything is settled I'll have the character sheets in the OP. Looks like we're pretty close to 6 people.

    @Steelhawk Glad to see you are still around the forums as well.

    By my count we have a rigger, a muscle adept, and a gunfighter. That's a good start but to be well rounded you will want at least one magic user and a decker.. otherwise things might get tricky.

  • ChrysisChrysis Registered User regular
    You missed shape shifter adept.

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  • rucdocrucdoc Crazy guy in the corner ClassifiedRegistered User regular
    I'm actually having issues getting nsrcg to do anything useful for me. I can input everything but then when I save and go to reload everything comes out borked.

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  • SteelhawkSteelhawk Registered User regular
    @illgottengains,

    Ooo. Combat Mage or Combat Decker......both characters I did not play back when I played 2nd edition. This could be fun!

  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Registered User regular
    Chrysis wrote: »
    You missed shape shifter adept.

    In Shadowrun shapeshifter means a magic-using animal which can look like a human, but yeah.

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  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Registered User regular
    Just to be clear, can we use the point-buy system in Companion rather than Priority?

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Registered User regular
    Ok folks! Happy to see our first character submissions come in. If you folks will email your characters I'll load them up in my nsrcg for easy access. Once everything is settled I'll have the character sheets in the OP. Looks like we're pretty close to 6 people.

    @Steelhawk Glad to see you are still around the forums as well.

    By my count we have a rigger, a muscle adept, and a gunfighter. That's a good start but to be well rounded you will want at least one magic user and a decker.. otherwise things might get tricky.

    if we were playing fourth I'd play an exorcist/ghost hunter type adept, but the way those particular powers are priced in the old system is kind of nuts

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  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Registered User regular
    Updated stats:
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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Registered User regular
    lookin' sassy.

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  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Registered User regular
    Yup. Still got plenty of cash left if people have any ideas.

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Registered User regular
    what level of spending did you do on money? If you could squeeze into a lower bracket there (maybe lose the odd vehicle choice?) you could buy up some stats. OR if you're committed to that tax bracket, you could think about a focus of some kind.

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  • InfidelInfidel It's not Infidel, it's INNNNNFIDELRegistered User regular
    SR3! I would totally do a decker but I really shouldn't because I have enough already that I'm spending my time on.

    Ugggggh.

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  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Registered User regular
    what level of spending did you do on money? If you could squeeze into a lower bracket there (maybe lose the odd vehicle choice?) you could buy up some stats. OR if you're committed to that tax bracket, you could think about a focus of some kind.

    The top. Level 4 has to be adept, and Level 3 is elf, so I can either be very rich or very poor. Adepts can't use focuses, right?

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  • InfidelInfidel It's not Infidel, it's INNNNNFIDELRegistered User regular
    what level of spending did you do on money? If you could squeeze into a lower bracket there (maybe lose the odd vehicle choice?) you could buy up some stats. OR if you're committed to that tax bracket, you could think about a focus of some kind.

    The top. Level 4 has to be adept, and Level 3 is elf, so I can either be very rich or very poor. Adepts can't use focuses, right?

    Man it's been a while, but they use weapon foci don't they?

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Registered User regular
    what level of spending did you do on money? If you could squeeze into a lower bracket there (maybe lose the odd vehicle choice?) you could buy up some stats. OR if you're committed to that tax bracket, you could think about a focus of some kind.

    The top. Level 4 has to be adept, and Level 3 is elf, so I can either be very rich or very poor. Adepts can't use focuses, right?

    That's pretty constraining. One point of alphaware? A friend for life hench character? Adepts can use certain focuses. I think power and weapon? And there are some adept-specific ones in other sourcebooks.

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  • Captain CarrotCaptain Carrot Registered User regular
    A weapon focus wouldn't do any good, since Maria isn't a fighter. Power foci aid many things, but none of them seem to be within her abilities, so that's useless too. I'm leery of reducing my essence (and therefore magic) even a little, but more contacts could always be useful.

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Registered User regular
    You could go all-out and design a real web of contacts. With maybe a level three you've really got control on who is a major node, like a fixer or a lone star Lt. or something?

    I made a mage. Dwarf, russian mafioso, Fenrir Shaman - basically a straightforward blaster, but if nobody shows up to play one, I'll switch.

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  • ChrysisChrysis Registered User regular
    I was wondering how the purchase of credsticks works. In the chargen you buy credsticks of a certain rating at a price you indicate (for example for my character two Rating 4 credsticks of 16,000) but once you finalise they show up in the banking as empty. What does that 16,000 represent? The value that was supposed to be on them or the maximum transaction amount or what?

    As for Troll archers, you can easily get up to a 20M damage long bow by making a physical adept. Start your Strength at Max, use 5.5 of your 6 power points to buy 8 levels of Improved Physical Attribute for Strength. A custom bow with minimum Strength requirement of 18 does 20M damage. That's unfortunately not enough to penetrate a Citymaster (need an extra 2 levels of damage to get through the 10 armour), but a patrol car would be in for a hell of a shock. And if you get really lucky you could do it out to 1.2Km (base target number 9).

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    That's the cost for a secure, Id bearing credstick that can handle transactions of up to that size. You can't use more levels of improved strength than you have magic, so you'd have to be an level two initate to do that. Also a troll's racial modified limit is 17, so the last level would cost a full point, making it your only power

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  • ChrysisChrysis Registered User regular
    Ah, missed that line in the adept magic, so you can get at most 6 levels from an adept assuming magic 6. That still gets you to 18M damage, which is significant but no where near penetrating a City Master. You could buy 6 levels of Attribute Boost, but with a TN of 8 to use it, and then a drain test with a TN of 11 you'd probably immediately KO after the shot. But if you had a bow with a minimum Strength of 22 that you could only realistically fire if you passed the Boost you could actually penetrate a Citymaster before fainting.

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Be easier to buy enhanced archery, and hit a called shot on it someplace. You could do what you're saying if you had a ranger x, tho, or dikoted arrows, or if your metaype was giant or cyclops, or if you got just a little more english on your str with merits and flaws.

    The other thing is, though, technically the GM can say they don't make a bow of that magnitude as the chart only goes to 12, and make you make one or have one customized

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  • ChrysisChrysis Registered User regular
    The chart doesn't actually go anywhere, it's just one entry of Min Str * X. But yeah, easy enough for the GM to say no. There are so many ways it wouldn't work in reality, that finding an appropriate one to apply should be easy. But it is a fun thought experiment in part because it leaves the ridiculous image of penetrating an APC with a bow and arrow.

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  • JohnnyCacheJohnnyCache Starting Defense Registered User regular
    I think you could do it with a Bullseye type adept in 4th. There's a throwing enhancement power that's pretty powerful

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  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt Carrion-Eater Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    All right, I've put together an elven Chinese Cat Shaman. Looking at it, it's been 6 years at least since I've made an SR3 character, but fortunately I still have the character generator loaded and waiting to go. The last character I made was a dwarf rigger with a million nuyen to blow on his bad ass armored step van. That was sure something. Stupid Renraku arcology security drones, shooting the shit out of my step van...

    If people could be kind enough to take a look over things and let me know if there was anything vital I've forgotten, I'd appreciate it. I did come through pretty thing on the skills, but I might be able to shave off some attribute points to cover that.

    Name: Wuzhi Mao
    Race: Elf
    Shaman (cat)
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  • illgottengainsillgottengains Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    lol at the munchinry. Is anyone serious about this bowtroll thing?

    Point buy system and priority are fine.

    @Infidel It would be great to have you along! We'll be giving orokos plenty of hits. I'll be reposting your handy how-to guide for SR rolls. Thanks again!

    So the revised count is:

    Chrysis - Lyov Popov, a slightly crazy Russian ex-pilot.

    Captain Carrot - Rosa Maria, Face adept.

    JohnnyCache - Pavel Torson aka Jotun, the combat adpet

    Rucdoc - Jeremy Collins aka "Squirlle," the dwarf

    Gabriel_Pit - Wuzchi Mao, the Cat shaman

    Once everyone has their finalized sheets please email the saved copy of the nsrcg file, I don't know what the extension is off the top of my head, but there shouldn't be many files in there to sift through. Email is Dirtybootsya@gmail.com

    Looks like we should be able to get the ball rolling here sometime soon, we just need a decker. Well, you could probably get by without one, but it'll definitely put you at a disadvantage in the long run.

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  • illgottengainsillgottengains Registered User regular
    what level of spending did you do on money? If you could squeeze into a lower bracket there (maybe lose the odd vehicle choice?) you could buy up some stats. OR if you're committed to that tax bracket, you could think about a focus of some kind.

    The top. Level 4 has to be adept, and Level 3 is elf, so I can either be very rich or very poor. Adepts can't use focuses, right?

    Pretty sure you can use both power and weapon focuses as an adept.

  • illgottengainsillgottengains Registered User regular
    To clear things up, rigger 3, sota, and companion will be fine.

  • rucdocrucdoc Crazy guy in the corner ClassifiedRegistered User regular
    think I've gotten mine mostly done, still working on a few things. just need to know where to send the file

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  • illgottengainsillgottengains Registered User regular
    edited May 2012
    Oh, silly me. Dirtybootsya@gmail.com

    I edited my post upstairs ^^

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