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Well, there are two types of licenses, right? There are licenses that are required because an industry is protecting itself from outside competition (law, plumbers, etc.) and then there is licensing like day care which is driven by concerns for the public welfare. The former type should help support higher wages, but I don't think you would expect the same thing with the latter, since the state has no incentive to limit the number of safety based licenses it awards.
"There are no necessary evils in government. Its evils exist only in its abuses. If it would confine itself to equal protection, and, as Heaven does its rains, shower its favors alike on the high and the low, the rich and the poor, it would be an unqualified blessing." -- Andrew Jackson
I live in Vermont and they're asking my coworkers and I.
Seems like an awful lot of travel pay, mileage, accommodations, training... It's amazing this is the length the company is going to in an effort to squash this negotiation, and it seems common. This happened last year in California as well, and has been brought up elsewhere. Also, after the number of people just laid off in California and Nevada.
Just... weird.
It's cheaper to pay out every now and then rather than letting workers unionize.
Who'd just volunteer to scab? I assume they are offering a handsome bonus. Out of curiosity, how much? 150% of normal pay? 200%?
I don't think they're expecting a high-quality replacement workforce, just enough to keep the doors open and the lights on. My guess is that there are plenty of desperately unemployed folks that would happily become scab workers for normal pay, maybe even less.
Huh?
If you aren't part of a union, why should you care? I would do it, no question. I cross picket lines all the time, and sometimes even choose to patronize a store because there is a strike going on, and I feel bad for the store owner.
"There are no necessary evils in government. Its evils exist only in its abuses. If it would confine itself to equal protection, and, as Heaven does its rains, shower its favors alike on the high and the low, the rich and the poor, it would be an unqualified blessing." -- Andrew Jackson
The dismissive tone being thrown about on non-union workers who might go work in a non-union store. It bugs me.
Basically you treat workforce like a resource to be exploited like how to stretch your aluminium supply to make more cans out of it at the same cost. This is a very novel, but unrealistic way to use humans as a "resource."
This line of thinking honestly needs to die in a fire.
But you never feel bad for the workers, I gather. They should be grateful for what they get, eh?
Because I prefer not cutting my own throat?
Okay, I thought it was a response to my post or something. In which case I would be confused. Wait, was it?
That's not at all what I think, in fact:
Labor Rights.
Unions are good, they can get overbearing and sometimes that should be looked to.
There, yell at me for a few pages now.[/quote]
Or
I've been fairly clear that I care about workers more than management. It's true that I'm not a big union guy but:
But it's fine to just put words I've never said in my mouth.
Not specifically, no. You sort of hit the nail on the head with why people would sign up.
Use and abuse, let them picket or whatever, but fuck them in the ass if it means I can't get stock options.
Sometimes unions overreach. Sometimes companies and managers exploit their workforce in ways that should not be acceptable. It just depends on the case at hand.
Although when it comes down to it, I am inclined to side with labor. People in power have historically displayed a certain...tendency to mistreat those that serve them, or those that they employ. All things being equal, the politically/economically powerless groups are the ones we should be looking to protect, as a society and as a government.
Ah there we are. Yes, that is ultimately the problem.
No?
My position is while I may not like unions they are the best way to protect workers. That was the point of all of my posts. I couldn't give less of a shit about the CEO's bottom line, I want what's best for the American worker because what's best for them is what's best for the country.
You may be confusing me with Spool or SKFM. Of course I don't want to put words in their mouths so you're probably dealing with your own issues.
I don't think most people care enough about the idea of scabbing to need to pay them anything above what is normal.
Which is the whole problem.
Handshake of moving on?
Hmm, quite.
That's basically where I am, too.
I don't like the idea of anyone being forced to join anything, but in practice unions are the only way to protect workers from people who only care about the bottom line.
My main thought about the whole thing is that the government needs to stop caring about corporate America as much and go back to worrying about Jack and Jill Voter.
I mean, why do you think other nations have statuatory severence and notice requirements in the first place? I would posit that shit like three quarters of the workforce being unionized is major contributing factor to actually putting worker's rights issues on the political agenda.
On "getting rid of the NRLA": you might not actually have a choice, if de facto labour power under a form that is amenable to the bargaining structure enshrined in it has declined (as it seems to have). If workers simply don't gain as much from strikes as they used to, then the NRLA is dragging down labour, not aiding it. I reiterate that the NRLA also illegitimized alternate forms of industrial action.
If the goal of this little piece of occasional literature was to make me literally shake with rage, mission accomplished.
Again, I live in Vermont and they're asking for volunteers from all over the country. Also, I am a manager (very low rung but still management), as are most of the people who have volunteered. They're not really getting low-paid volunteers here.
The bonus is that travel time is comped, as are meals and such, there will be overtime which is otherwise a huge no no.. There may be other bonuses too but i have no idea. I normally would not bother but we really could use the money.
It's my understanding that Unions used to be similar the crafting guilds (or whatever they were called?) where every, say, mill worker was a part of the mill workers union. It didn't matter which mill you worked for, or who owned that mill, you were a part of the mill workers union. Which meant that mills were not competing on pay and benefits, but on other aspects of their business.
But now days it looks like if you work for Delta Airlines, you are a part of the Delta union. If you work for American Airlines, you work for American Airlines Union. Which means that airlines are competing with each other on who can negotiate with their unions better.
Is that what is really happening? Was there a shift? If so, how and why did it take place?
This way they risk shutting down their business because of not wanting to give in to union demands or compromising.
What the fuck. You should care out of solidarity for workers. Why in the world would you cross picket lines? You make more than enough money to claim you have to or your family would go hungry.
I cross picket lines because, as some said earlier, we don't know the whole story. Despite this, people tend to side with labor, hurting the store owner. I'm just doing my part to keep the strike from hurting the owner too much. If I actually do know the situation and agree with the workers, then I would not cross their line. But so far, that has never happened.
"There are no necessary evils in government. Its evils exist only in its abuses. If it would confine itself to equal protection, and, as Heaven does its rains, shower its favors alike on the high and the low, the rich and the poor, it would be an unqualified blessing." -- Andrew Jackson
I'm certain he has a long and detailed conversation with the striking workers, who are all too eager to give him information, before he makes the decision to side with the owner.
You don't know the whole story, so you just assume the union is wrong.
Yeah...