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Time n' such. (NSFpeoplewhohatethinking)
Thaox
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A friend of mine is really intrigued with theoretical physics. Don't ask me why. But he was talking about something really interesting yesterday dealing with time. I think he called it "Observational time theory" or something along those lines. I've only taken 3 physics courses so it was hard for me to follow. This is what I got.
Some people might not know this but time is relative to the speed you're going. This was supported by an experiment done with 2 atomic clocks. One stayed stationary the other was flown around the world as fast as it could be and when they were compared the flying clock was slower. Time had slowed for the clock that was moving. This concept is called time dilation and is part of Einstein's special relativity concept.
Heres where my concept and your part comes in. If the closer you get to the speed of light, the slower time gets then once you reach the speed of light (which I believe is theoretically impossible because it would take an infinite amount of energy to reach the speed of light) Time should stop. Now, this leads me to conclude that the only reason we percieve time as we do is because our planet is moving. What if a person were to get to a point in space where he was completley stopped and was not moving at all? Does the concept work both ways? Would this be like the triple point of time where everything was existing at once past future and present?
Science nerds pick this apart. I'm no physicist and don't have a deep understanding of special relativity. Everyone else, post pictures of kittens.
Some people might not know this but time is relative to the speed you're going. This was supported by an experiment done with 2 atomic clocks. One stayed stationary the other was flown around the world as fast as it could be and when they were compared the flying clock was slower. Time had slowed for the clock that was moving. This concept is called time dilation and is part of Einstein's special relativity concept.
Heres where my concept and your part comes in. If the closer you get to the speed of light, the slower time gets then once you reach the speed of light (which I believe is theoretically impossible because it would take an infinite amount of energy to reach the speed of light) Time should stop. Now, this leads me to conclude that the only reason we percieve time as we do is because our planet is moving. What if a person were to get to a point in space where he was completley stopped and was not moving at all? Does the concept work both ways? Would this be like the triple point of time where everything was existing at once past future and present?
Science nerds pick this apart. I'm no physicist and don't have a deep understanding of special relativity. Everyone else, post pictures of kittens.
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It's science.
So time can be slowed but not stopped? If I'm reading correctly then time is relative to your reference point, and if your reference point isn't moving in any direction then how can time exist?
Let me touch that up a bit.
i move back
we come together 'cause opposites attract
i can't pretend to know a hell of allot about this stuff. But if you think time can't exist with no movement why would you think ALL time would exist in this situation
says you
edit: that may be a colloquial phrase
Imagine you're at a point in space with a gigantic pocket watch that someone roughly 300,000 km away can read, and the other person has an identical one, and the two clocks are perfectly in sync with each other.
If you were to look at the other person's watch, it will read one second slower than your watch because of the time it takes for the light to travel from them to you (one second, at 3.0x10^8 m/s). Similarly, the other person looking at your watch will notice your clock is slower than his by one second. Therefore, you're both one second behind each other.
(Timefields timeless space sluggy freelance lol)
But if you get to absolute zero, that's another story.
Whoaaaa
Well what I was thinking was that at one end of the spectrum, moving at the ultimate speed (light) then time is stopped or should be, it's an exponential curve I know. So my logic was that at the other end of the spectrum the slower you move the faster time goes. So Time stops at speed of light then what happens to time when you're speed = 0?
Since movement is relative, e.g. physics can't tell the difference between a planet moving through space versus everything in the universe moving around the planet, there is no way to stop moving, because there is no absolute motion.
That's why relativity is weird, it's all frames of reference.
Course I could be wrong, but that's my understanding. I read a book about it a while ago.
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I can't spell anything.
Things get really horrible when you want to describe how two events can occur simultaneously, since if I do something and see you do it a second later how do we know it occured at the same time? and what if some one is watching both of us from even further away he might see me carry out the action like thirty seconds before you.
Of course, just because it appears to have not happened at the same time, does not mean it hasn't.
Right but you have 0 net movement. Someone made the point about absolute motion earlier.
It was a good point.
Time is relative too, dammit. There is no absolute time.
Luckily for day-to-day non-close-the-speed-of-light things you can pretend there is.
Bizaro world, that's what.
Time is merely the perception of an incident occuring in a specific direction.
Still not possible. If there is other matter in the universe, there will be no 0 net movement. matter attracts matter, no matter how far away it is.
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I think it gets emitted as Hawking radiation or some shit.
Also, like 97% of the universe is made up of dark energy and dark matter, and we don't have a fucking clue what that is.
It could be converted into energy. Matter and energy are the same thing. It's a nuclear concept I think?
I wish physics was less about math and more about trippy time discussions.
I'll be waiting
Time after Time
That song makes me tear up every time I hear it.