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[League of Legends] Hargaad has the new form! Painhouse is about to get majorly revamped!

Hargaad of OmnarHargaad of Omnar Registered User
edited July 2012 in Games and Technology
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League of Legends (popularly known as LoL) is a Multiplayer Online Battle Arena (MOBA) game.

It is made by Riot games and brought to you by sexy lagomorphs.
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You play as a summoner that selects Taric or Rammus to battle with and against other summoners and their respective non-armordillo or non-bedazzled champions. During games, your champion will level up, get gold for better equipment and hopefully destroy the enemy nexus. Outside of games, your summoner level will rise. This will unlock new runes to enhance champion stats, bestow mastery points for further champion customization and goodies like avatars. At max level you can then compete in ranked matches and/or judge player behavior in what is called the Tribunal.

New Player Guide

1. Make an account: NA EU (West) EU (Nordic & East)
It is worth noting that referring new players has perks, so I would ask for a referral link in the thread rather than a vanilla account.

2. Download the client: Right here
The official Mac client has been discontinued.

3. Play the tutorials! New User Guide
The game can be a bit overwhelming, and I highly suggest you play the tutorials OR find someone willing to do a few vs. AI games with you.

4. Join the "Penny Arcade" Chat Channel to find helpful people and people to escape solo queue with! Click the little double speech bubble looking thing at the bottom right of your screen. Click the + speech bubble right above it. Type in "Penny Arcade" and introduce yourself. Not everyone you see in the thread will be there, as not everyone plays on the same server. You can ask these people how to play champions, we pretty much have someone who plays each kind of Riven, whether it be bunny girl (broken tier), crimson elite (garbage tier) and every kind in between.
(Hargaad felt this should be more stressed because of players like Arivia...who CHOOSES to solo queue, which is a terribad idea in the first place. <3 )

5. Play vs. People
Do it, damn you. As said above, the AI is not going to give you the legitimate LoL experience. You don't want to hit your 20s solely from bot matches.

6. Get yer free champs.
Subscribe to Riot's Youtube and get a free Alistar skin! Includes the champion! Free Tristana if you're into the Facebook thing. Promo skins always include the champion if you never bought it.

The Dos and Don'ts of LoL

Meta Stuff
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Game Stuff
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Meet the Team

Like any group activity, stuff is usually broken down into roles. It's worth noting that champions don't always fit neatly in categories. A champion's role in the team may depend on what build has been chosen, and sometimes you may fill several roles depending on the group composition. When picking champions, it's a good idea to see what people are doing and fill in any holes.

1. The Carry: If your team is a car, then the carry is the engine. It's what makes the team function. The carry, when doing its job, will be able to easily destroy the whole team. But, just like an engine is useless without any other parts of your car, the carry relies on its team to get the gold necessary to buy the items needed to kill swathes of enemies. Early on, carries tend to be more vulnerable and weaker than other champs. LOTS of people pick carry in random, because it's the star character that generally gets all the kills. One of the reasons Caitlyn is so great is that she can carry a team since her AS ratios are amazing and she can easily carry and dominate fools.

2. The Tank: Following the car metaphor, the tank is your steering. It'll guide the team into battle, and in many cases will be the one starting the fights. Tanks are there to absorb damage and lock down the most dangerous champions on the enemy team so you can position yourselves to win the fight. Some tanks do this with CC, whereas other tanks have some damage and will soften up the enemy team instead. Tanks still tend to need the rest of their team to back them up. Rammus is probably the most boss at doing all of this, and with zazz.

3. The Support: I guess support are your tires or something? Maybe the AC. Either, support help the team out with buffs and generally shields or healing. Healers tend to assist the carry by allowing the carry to stay in the lane longer through said healing or shields. Unlike, well, just about everyone else, Support don't rely so much on gear and thus will purposefully AVOID getting last hits so that their lane partner can farm gold faster. Because of their reduced need of gold, support should also be buying and placing wards when needed. It's worth noting that EVERYONE should generally buy wards, but as a support you can afford to take the financial hit. FEW people pick support in random due to how hard it is to influence games. You have to be very proactive to make up for bad teammates as a carry. Veigar commonly supports the enemy team to their graves.

4. The Jungler: Jungling is a more advanced concept, and you won't see it until higher summoner levels. This is due to runes and masteries allowing for more efficient jungling. It is still possible on a few champs, even at Summoner Level 1, but very uncommon. As the name implies, the jungler sits in the jungle and kills neutral creeps. This benefits your team by creating a second solo lane (top lane), resulting in more experience and gold for your team as a whole. Once the jungler hits a certain gear/level point, they look for opportunities to gank enemies. This is generally done via strong CC abilities, such as Warwick's ultimate or Nunu's slow coupled with his speed buff. Skills such as these will enable the jungler's teammate in that lane to easily assist with the kill. When not ganking, the jungler will return to the jungle regularly to keep up in terms of gold and experience. Due to their roaming, the jungler has plenty of opportunities to place wards for its teammates. Riven can do this and she's amazing. Only, Rammus can do it faster, and still have plenty of juice left in his zazz-tank.

This is a very simple guide! There are other roles in teams, but this is a rough outline of the basics. Roles can easily overlap, and a champion can fill more than one role! Experiment and see what works and what doesn't.

Thursday Night Painhouse!
Join channel "Painhouse" to play!

Hargaad made a NEW Summoner info form for Painhouse. Please only fill it out if you plan on playing or coming back to Painhouse. :)
Summoner Info Table for the summarized info you just filled out.

Wanna play with other PA people in a cutthroat (but still fun and casual) FIGHT TO THE DEATH? Every thursday night at 8 est. we draft up players for Promptu (the opposite of impromptu) Inhouses that are known as PAINHOUSES. Please put your info down so we know why we should invite you!

Summoner info form. (defunct, but still fun to fill out)

Summoner info table. (old info, not used, but still fun to look at)


Useful Stuff

Websites!
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Stuff You Should Know
-Yes, a promo skin will unlock that champion for free.
-Promo skin codes generally work once on each region. If you have used a code for yourself, don't toss it out! Make a post here and give it away or swap it for another skin.
-Buy Wards
-Buy Wards
-When in doubt, take Promote/Flash


List of helpful LoL terminology.
Removed the huge list of terms in favor of the LoL wiki of terms. Hargaad kept a copy of the old list, though, if anybody really thinks I am leaving some pertinent info out.

Previous thread: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/159381/league-of-legends-its-something-to-do-when-diablo-3-is-down#Item_3987

And because we're a group of failures and spent a good 10 minutes looking for the fucking link:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Al8wcjKN9tZLdDNkTWdheE4xazFyZ21pMWxwWW0zUkE#gid=2
(@schuss - give more privileges or be here Thurs!)

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  • Hargaad of OmnarHargaad of Omnar Registered User
    edited July 2012
    Have you scored a penta?
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  • zerg rushzerg rush Registered User regular
    Guys, draven is soooo fun. Not good, but sooooo fun.

  • TalithTalith 変態という名の紳士 Miami, FLRegistered User regular
    I played maybe four games as Draven. I thought he was fun and hilarious and incredibly well done and then shelved his ass because Ezreal does it with more style.

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  • BethrynBethryn Registered User regular
    I want an AD carry who is all about the maps.

  • maraxus94maraxus94 Registered User
    So Gragas is so fun to play as. Too bad that the second I hop into a game someone always yells "MID."

  • TIFunkaliciousTIFunkalicious Kicking back in NebraskaRegistered User regular
    I see top called the most in solo Q. I guess people like being solo but not the center of gank attention

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  • SpectrumSpectrum Raising Heart Excelion, Drive Ignition! MidchildaRegistered User regular
    I see top called the most in solo Q. I guess people like being solo but not the center of gank attention
    ...not the center of gank attention? What bizarro world do you play in? Top gets ganked by mid and jungle, sometimes camped by jungle. Mid doesn't get camped nearly as often and top tends not to be able to gank mid that often either.

  • JimboJimbo Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    That Taric at the top of the OP looks like an amputee. A Fabulous amputee.

    edit: wait, it's a different taric now

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  • PoultryGeistPoultryGeist Registered User regular
    OK so I know the LW vs MBR argument is a long standing one and LW tends to win out but I was looking into Kog and wondering if MBR would win on him due to the synergy with his W (Bio-Arcane Barrage).

    Thoughts? Numbercrafts?

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    I vote the forum's glorious edict be changed from "silly goose" to "holocaust denying 911 pedophile."
  • ArchArch Trust me, I'm a scientist Registered User regular
  • interrobanginterrobang we can tear up this rotten world together we'll break and smash and pound it into dustRegistered User regular
    manamune is kind of a shit item in general

    unless you're yorick

  • KayKay Registered User regular
    Manamune's a bad item on Ez, 'cause he's not going to build any other mana to take advantage of the passive to let him build tanky like Ryze.

    Unless you're playing Ezreal top and going bruiser, I guess.

    Also, I think someone numbercrafted a while back and proved that Phage was a better DEEPS increase than Sheen, 'cause Phage increased all your autos and has the slow proc, but you should be building both on your way to Triforce anyhow.

  • Mr.SunshineMr.Sunshine Registered User regular
    Manamune works for Urgot. Q and E all day, get mana and damage.

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  • Mr.SunshineMr.Sunshine Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    Double the postings

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  • PoultryGeistPoultryGeist Registered User regular
    http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=737937

    Win boost OP!
    I didn't even know that was a thing...

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    I vote the forum's glorious edict be changed from "silly goose" to "holocaust denying 911 pedophile."
  • softmoneysoftmoney Registered User
    Have you scored a penta?
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    This is the kind of coddling we do to AP / AD carries. We glorify last hits and damage output over initiation, tanking, and supporting. It needs to end now. Unless, of course, I get a penta. Time to start playing Sona and Nunu more.

  • VizardObserverVizardObserver Registered User regular
    my first penta was as twitch. tip: never go 4 ap and one ashe, because then the ad carry will just get a maw of malmortius and somehow 1v5 you because he pressed r

  • Hargaad of OmnarHargaad of Omnar Registered User
    softmoney wrote: »
    Have you scored a penta?
    Spoiler:

    This is the kind of coddling we do to AP / AD carries. We glorify last hits and damage output over initiation, tanking, and supporting. It needs to end now. Unless, of course, I get a penta. Time to start playing Sona and Nunu more.

    Well, that's my specialty: Supports. I can run Blitz, Sona, Soraka, Taric, Ali, Lulu...I know I'm forgetting a few, but pretty much all of them.

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  • Hargaad of OmnarHargaad of Omnar Registered User
    edited June 2012
    Fuck it...I'm leaving this shit running until the servers come back online later. I'd say tomorrow, but it's already fucking is. I will not waste this fwotd with IP boost! I will wait 5 more hours! >_<

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  • TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    Brand best mid or bestest mid?

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  • MrGrimoireMrGrimoire Registered User regular
    Dreamhack was pretty damn awesome. Got to see a ton of games live, got some free stuff and a picture of me with Phreak. Could have got a ton more if I'd been a bit more aggressive. Oh well, lessons for next year.

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  • MahnmutMahnmut Registered User regular
    Spectrum wrote: »
    I see top called the most in solo Q. I guess people like being solo but not the center of gank attention
    ...not the center of gank attention? What bizarro world do you play in? Top gets ganked by mid and jungle, sometimes camped by jungle. Mid doesn't get camped nearly as often and top tends not to be able to gank mid that often either.

    Yeah, I see people preferring top (or extra normally-top characters for other lanes) because they want to be the tanky bruiser who wins duels and 1v2s. Mid is next-most popular, followed by ad and support -- again, basically determined by dueling capability.

    I've been playing mid almost exclusively for the last week and a half, and I VERY rarely have competition for it. Meanwhile we often end up without a ranged ad carry, and supports are super-rare. Which might not be insane; my winrate is way up since I started playing mid instead of support. With how scattered games at my level in blind pick always are, having an extra duelist bot might actually be better than having a Janna. :|

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  • MazloMazlo Registered User regular
    So I just found this: http://www.lolking.net

    Someone was using it during draft and telling someone what mid champ to use because they had a better win rate with them... It seemed kind of goosey.

    But I like stats so its still cool to look at. I... I am a bad mid and jungler.

  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    We had a guy in a game last night who, the second we got into the lobby, called support. I was baffled. I told him last pick didn't get to call support and that he'd play a selfish role and LIKE IT, but he wasn't very happy with me.

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  • BurnageBurnage Just a harmless flower Registered User regular
    Mazlo wrote: »
    So I just found this: http://www.lolking.net

    Someone was using it during draft and telling someone what mid champ to use because they had a better win rate with them... It seemed kind of goosey.

    But I like stats so its still cool to look at. I... I am a bad mid and jungler.

    I had one guy in ranked link to his page on that site, saying that because he had a fantastic win rate with one champ then I should pick them. Not even to swap, just that I should play them. Weird as hell.

  • AegisAegis Registered User regular
    We had a guy in a game last night who, the second we got into the lobby, called support. I was baffled. I told him last pick didn't get to call support and that he'd play a selfish role and LIKE IT, but he wasn't very happy with me.

    I do this whenever I play ranked!

    Of course, Ranked likes to laugh at me and put me in charge of bans and first pick while playing support :(

  • EchoEcho Per Aspera Ad Inferi Super Moderator, Moderator mod
    http://euw.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=737937

    Win boost OP!
    I didn't even know that was a thing...

    It's a thing.

    I'm still flabbergasted by Riot giving me 2k RPs for having one rune page vanish and reappear four days later.

  • KayKay Registered User regular
    Picking support first is a lot better than picking top or mid first though, Aegis!

  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    The Tribunal is...out of cases? I didn't know that could happen o_O

    Edit: Nevermind, it's back.

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  • AegisAegis Registered User regular
    Kay wrote: »
    Picking support first is a lot better than picking top or mid first though, Aegis!

    Yea but it both leads me open to a counterpick bot lane and doesn't give our team a strong champion off the bat. I don't care about the latter in solo q, but the former hurts somewhat as I'm forced into relatively safe supports rather than ones that can be negated by enemy bot lane/team comp.

  • BurnageBurnage Just a harmless flower Registered User regular
    Am I crazy for feeling like Shyvana has been a bit over-nerfed? The burnout reduction hit her clear times a bit, the ult nerf means she's less tanky late game, and she's always had trouble ganking. I just don't see any reason to take her over other junglers, which sucks because I really like her design.

  • MegamaniacoMegamaniaco Madrid, SpainRegistered User regular
    Is it wrong to prefer Sivir over better AD carries?

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  • JoshmviiJoshmvii Registered User regular
    edited June 2012
    OK so I know the LW vs MBR argument is a long standing one and LW tends to win out but I was looking into Kog and wondering if MBR would win on him due to the synergy with his W (Bio-Arcane Barrage).

    Thoughts? Numbercrafts?

    LW. People build armor, and you want to be cutting through that armor on top of the extra damage from Kog's W. IE, PD, LW, BT, and a defensive item would be the order I'd build in, though you can build PD first too if you want to abuse W with the attack speed early. MBR would have to have its cost destroyed to compete.

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  • JoshmviiJoshmvii Registered User regular
    Burnage wrote: »
    Am I crazy for feeling like Shyvana has been a bit over-nerfed? The burnout reduction hit her clear times a bit, the ult nerf means she's less tanky late game, and she's always had trouble ganking. I just don't see any reason to take her over other junglers, which sucks because I really like her design.

    She's fun, but yeah, there isn't really a reason to choose her over Nocturne, Nautilus, or probably some others too.

  • BurnageBurnage Just a harmless flower Registered User regular
    Joshmvii wrote: »
    Burnage wrote: »
    Am I crazy for feeling like Shyvana has been a bit over-nerfed? The burnout reduction hit her clear times a bit, the ult nerf means she's less tanky late game, and she's always had trouble ganking. I just don't see any reason to take her over other junglers, which sucks because I really like her design.

    She's fun, but yeah, there isn't really a reason to choose her over Nocturne, Nautilus, or probably some others too.

    Mundo's probably the obvious better pick. Faster clear, better ganks, better tank, very similar kit.

  • MechMantisMechMantis Registered User regular
    Servers are up!

    For, you know

    anyone who's playing at 9:44AM

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  • JoshmviiJoshmvii Registered User regular
    Burnage wrote: »
    Joshmvii wrote: »
    Burnage wrote: »
    Am I crazy for feeling like Shyvana has been a bit over-nerfed? The burnout reduction hit her clear times a bit, the ult nerf means she's less tanky late game, and she's always had trouble ganking. I just don't see any reason to take her over other junglers, which sucks because I really like her design.

    She's fun, but yeah, there isn't really a reason to choose her over Nocturne, Nautilus, or probably some others too.

    Mundo's probably the obvious better pick. Faster clear, better ganks, better tank, very similar kit.

    Yeah, I was thinking Mundo is probably the most comparable one, I just don't play him much because I pretty much can't keep myself from picking Nocturne, Nautilus, or Maokai when I jungle. I actually want to play him more, but yeah, it's hard not to choose the ones I already love playing.

    To stay on topic, one thing I like about Shyvana is she can actually lane pretty well too, where many of the other junglers are bad or just outright terrible at it.

  • RizziRizzi Registered User regular
    I keep getting an error when I try to log in.
    "Log in failed for an unknown reason."
    :(

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  • SampsenSampsen Registered User regular
    Is it wrong to prefer Sivir over better AD carries?

    Better? Don't be silly, Sivir is really, really good if played properly.

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  • KayKay Registered User regular
    Aegis wrote: »
    Kay wrote: »
    Picking support first is a lot better than picking top or mid first though, Aegis!

    Yea but it both leads me open to a counterpick bot lane and doesn't give our team a strong champion off the bat. I don't care about the latter in solo q, but the former hurts somewhat as I'm forced into relatively safe supports rather than ones that can be negated by enemy bot lane/team comp.
    1) Get really good with Janna. Janna's a very strong support and hard to counterpick.
    2) Get really good with Alistar. Ali's a very strong support, though he can be counterpicked easier than Janna.
    3) Get really good with Leona. Same reasons as the above.
    4) Get really good with Nunu. He's different to the others as he's more of a buff/debuffer with limited peel ability, though.
    5) Before making your pick, as who wants AD carry and which support meshes best with their playstyle.
    6) Profit and get tons of friend requests.

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