On our team, I know I'm village. Figgy has been doing the math, so I'm inclined to believe he's village. Tzeentch, Figgy, Ani, and Stever all searched for the idol day 1.
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Also of note: Tzeentchling, Anialos, and I all have claimed the same stats. Tzeentchling and I match up on usefulness, but Ani is slightly off.
Was Ani's Usefulness discrepancy ever resolved?
Yes, in fact I'm now tied for the most useful tribe member.
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AnialosCollies are love, Collies are life!Shadowbrook ColliesRegistered Userregular
Right, its been fluctuating. I assume it is based off what we actually contributed each day/overall. So someone with the same stats could indeed be less usefull if they are slacking off or being a dick.
Okay. I'm trying to read through all the posts of a couple different players in the thread to see if I can find something.
Based on a reread I am very confident that Figgy is village. Aside from the fact that he's done lots of heavy lifting analysis and discussed a lot of things in thread, he also asked an important clarification question in thread about immunity idols. I believe the mafia would prefer that clarification to have not been made in public.
The biggest suspect I have now is Tzneetchling.
The largest reason I have for this is voting records on day 2, when we successfully ousted a mafia member. Tzneetch jumped into the thread to impugn Kime's credibility immediately after I announced that one of either Kime or Sir Fab was a liar along with a vote for Sir Fab. I think this was very likely an attempt to build up an alternative wagon to Sir Fab on Kime. Once the wagon on Sir Fab became inevitable, he made a meaningless vote switch to sir fab. That makes sense as a way of purifying his voting records.
There are a few smaller things also. He searched for the idol on day one, then claimed confusion about that having negative consequences for his other action. I believe that could be playing dumb in thread to cover his tracks. The negative consequences of searching for the idol had already been heavily discussed. He also predicted that Kilnaga would not be mafia after the wagon had built up a great deal on day one on the basis that Kilnaga had started the proboard, but he provided no real alternative to voting Kilnaga out. That strikes me as a mafia member who wants to establish a record of being correct, in a way that is harmless to his cause.
Since I have been accused of being overbearing, let me be clear: my intention is to start discussion, not to end it. I think it is important that we get at least one of the remaining mafia with one of our votes tonight so it bears being very cautious and thorough with our analysis. We need as many ideas as possible.
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Poor Anialos. Mafia again.
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AnialosCollies are love, Collies are life!Shadowbrook ColliesRegistered Userregular
Okay. I'm trying to read through all the posts of a couple different players in the thread to see if I can find something.
Based on a reread I am very confident that Figgy is village. Aside from the fact that he's done lots of heavy lifting analysis and discussed a lot of things in thread, he also asked an important clarification question in thread about immunity idols. I believe the mafia would prefer that clarification to have not been made in public.
The biggest suspect I have now is Tzneetchling.
The largest reason I have for this is voting records on day 2, when we successfully ousted a mafia member. Tzneetch jumped into the thread to impugn Kime's credibility immediately after I announced that one of either Kime or Sir Fab was a liar along with a vote for Sir Fab. I think this was very likely an attempt to build up an alternative wagon to Sir Fab on Kime. Once the wagon on Sir Fab became inevitable, he made a meaningless vote switch to sir fab. That makes sense as a way of purifying his voting records.
There are a few smaller things also. He searched for the idol on day one, then claimed confusion about that having negative consequences for his other action. I believe that could be playing dumb in thread to cover his tracks. The negative consequences of searching for the idol had already been heavily discussed. He also predicted that Kilnaga would not be mafia after the wagon had built up a great deal on day one on the basis that Kilnaga had started the proboard, but he provided no real alternative to voting Kilnaga out. That strikes me as a mafia member who wants to establish a record of being correct, in a way that is harmless to his cause.
Since I have been accused of being overbearing, let me be clear: my intention is to start discussion, not to end it. I think it is important that we get at least one of the remaining mafia with one of our votes tonight so it bears being very cautious and thorough with our analysis. We need as many ideas as possible.
With respect -
I never trust kime. I also don't really trust you, as you were trying to game the game at the beginning, and I don't appreciate being told how to play phalla. You've since raised more good points, but I still don't entirely trust you. I switched to sir fab after enough evidence came out that he was more likely to be mafia than kime.
As for the confusion, that's pure my bad. I honestly didn't notice the reduction in effectiveness. I ought to have.
I had no desire for kilnaga to get voted out. I kept my vote on the player who I believe ended in second place. I could have argued harder, I suppose, but it's night one and I didn't have any better information to vote for someone. I'll note that none of my teammates lobbied very hard either.
Personally, I have my doubts about Figgy, but he's been more helpful than usual so I give him the benefit of the doubt. Right now, my strongest suspicions lie with Assuran and Anialos. Capfalcon hasn't been posting much, but the night after the mafia killed Greenbarons he tried to vote him out, which doesn't strike me as something a mafia player would do (though I could be wrong). By process of elimination, that would leave the other two, assuming two mafia per tribe.
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warbanWho the Hoof do you think we are?Registered Userregular
I'm being silly. I just think It would be funny if Anialos ends up being Mafia again.
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AnialosCollies are love, Collies are life!Shadowbrook ColliesRegistered Userregular
On our team, I know I'm village. Figgy has been doing the math, so I'm inclined to believe he's village. Tzeentch, Figgy, Ani, and Stever all searched for the idol day 1.
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Also of note: Tzeentchling, Anialos, and I all have claimed the same stats. Tzeentchling and I match up on usefulness, but Ani is slightly off.
Was Ani's Usefulness discrepancy ever resolved?
Yes, in fact I'm now tied for the most useful tribe member.
Ani searched for the idol day 1 and day 2, which explained the difference. Neither Tzeentch or I looked for the idol.
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AnialosCollies are love, Collies are life!Shadowbrook ColliesRegistered Userregular
it works like the show, the tied people get immunity and it's randomized from the other people.
The show HATES ties.
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AssuranIs swinging on the SpiralRegistered Userregular
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Sure, my suspicions at this point are CapFalcon and if you're making me take a guess at the other three, I guess I'll go with Anialos, mainly because it's suspicious he searched for the idol two straight days while we were starving.
Point wise, tzeentch and ani are the most useful, followed by Figgy and I, with Cap being least useful, but he's also the only one making our shelter and has kept it strong for two days, which is honestly, all we ask of him.
Figgy has been tending the fire for two days, but statistically speaking, he's the best suited to that task. Cap is our shelter guy and Ani, Tzeentch, and I all have the same stats by pure chance and have been gathering food.
Honestly, I'm at a loss. I really don't know who is mafia in our group, mostly because we lost two days of vote records due to outing lying villagers. So frustrating.
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tzeentchlingDoctor of RocksOaklandRegistered Userregular
Yeah, no one on my tribe has been giving off strongly mafia signals. It makes it hard!
Also, I did search for the idol day 1, then realized that I would have reduced effectiveness and stopped doing that from then on.
So I guess Anialos was suspicious early on, but now isn't? He doesn't seem to say much when he votes.
Tzeentchling was a bit overbearing in his analysis early on. Some people thought he was suspicious because of that, but I guess he is off the chopping block again?
Personally I think the circumstances leading up to Warban's "arrival" have a little tiny bit to do with the stress endured having to play as mafia.
Those are the only suspects I got really. It's been a quiet and boring day, we need some discussion.
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If I had to pick two on my tribe, Capfalcon and Tzeen.
Really, I was almost positive REG would die red. Wish he would have tried a bit more. But as he put it, he wasn't really giving a shit. So after he died green, I have no idea. Mafia has no real reason to lie about food/shelter now. They can just sit back and wait for a villager to fuck up. We're so paranoid we'll swarm anyone.
Tzeentchling: Assuran and Anialos
Anialos: tzeentchling and Capfalcon
Assuran: Capfalcon and Anialos
Figgy: Capfalcon and Tzeenchling
Capfalcon: yet to answer.
!Capfalcon, I choose you!
Also, for what it's worth, I'll be travelling over the weekend at an inconvenient time (it came up after I signed up). Should have access to a computer, but I may be less talkative.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
I'm about to leave work and likely won't be around later, so I'm putting a vote in on Tzeentch. I'll go ahead and assume that Tz shows up on Cap's suspicious list, and as a gut feeling between the 2, I lean more towards the one named after an ancient chaos god.
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Yes, in fact I'm now tied for the most useful tribe member.
Based on a reread I am very confident that Figgy is village. Aside from the fact that he's done lots of heavy lifting analysis and discussed a lot of things in thread, he also asked an important clarification question in thread about immunity idols. I believe the mafia would prefer that clarification to have not been made in public.
The biggest suspect I have now is Tzneetchling.
The largest reason I have for this is voting records on day 2, when we successfully ousted a mafia member. Tzneetch jumped into the thread to impugn Kime's credibility immediately after I announced that one of either Kime or Sir Fab was a liar along with a vote for Sir Fab. I think this was very likely an attempt to build up an alternative wagon to Sir Fab on Kime. Once the wagon on Sir Fab became inevitable, he made a meaningless vote switch to sir fab. That makes sense as a way of purifying his voting records.
There are a few smaller things also. He searched for the idol on day one, then claimed confusion about that having negative consequences for his other action. I believe that could be playing dumb in thread to cover his tracks. The negative consequences of searching for the idol had already been heavily discussed. He also predicted that Kilnaga would not be mafia after the wagon had built up a great deal on day one on the basis that Kilnaga had started the proboard, but he provided no real alternative to voting Kilnaga out. That strikes me as a mafia member who wants to establish a record of being correct, in a way that is harmless to his cause.
Since I have been accused of being overbearing, let me be clear: my intention is to start discussion, not to end it. I think it is important that we get at least one of the remaining mafia with one of our votes tonight so it bears being very cautious and thorough with our analysis. We need as many ideas as possible.
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With respect -
I never trust kime. I also don't really trust you, as you were trying to game the game at the beginning, and I don't appreciate being told how to play phalla. You've since raised more good points, but I still don't entirely trust you. I switched to sir fab after enough evidence came out that he was more likely to be mafia than kime.
As for the confusion, that's pure my bad. I honestly didn't notice the reduction in effectiveness. I ought to have.
I had no desire for kilnaga to get voted out. I kept my vote on the player who I believe ended in second place. I could have argued harder, I suppose, but it's night one and I didn't have any better information to vote for someone. I'll note that none of my teammates lobbied very hard either.
Personally, I have my doubts about Figgy, but he's been more helpful than usual so I give him the benefit of the doubt. Right now, my strongest suspicions lie with Assuran and Anialos. Capfalcon hasn't been posting much, but the night after the mafia killed Greenbarons he tried to vote him out, which doesn't strike me as something a mafia player would do (though I could be wrong). By process of elimination, that would leave the other two, assuming two mafia per tribe.
I'd be stressing out alot less if I was, that's for sure. On that note, my current Dunalist!
tzeentchling
Capfalcon
Teucrian
Everyone else still alive
Hopefully I didn't miss this being stated anywhere.
The show HATES ties.
Ani searched for the idol day 1 and day 2, which explained the difference. Neither Tzeentch or I looked for the idol.
In the OP :P but...
Point wise, tzeentch and ani are the most useful, followed by Figgy and I, with Cap being least useful, but he's also the only one making our shelter and has kept it strong for two days, which is honestly, all we ask of him.
Figgy has been tending the fire for two days, but statistically speaking, he's the best suited to that task. Cap is our shelter guy and Ani, Tzeentch, and I all have the same stats by pure chance and have been gathering food.
Honestly, I'm at a loss. I really don't know who is mafia in our group, mostly because we lost two days of vote records due to outing lying villagers. So frustrating.
Also, I did search for the idol day 1, then realized that I would have reduced effectiveness and stopped doing that from then on.
But our idol is back in play, so someone might be tempted tonight.
Tzeentchling was a bit overbearing in his analysis early on. Some people thought he was suspicious because of that, but I guess he is off the chopping block again?
Personally I think the circumstances leading up to Warban's "arrival" have a little tiny bit to do with the stress endured having to play as mafia.
Those are the only suspects I got really. It's been a quiet and boring day, we need some discussion.
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Really, I was almost positive REG would die red. Wish he would have tried a bit more. But as he put it, he wasn't really giving a shit. So after he died green, I have no idea. Mafia has no real reason to lie about food/shelter now. They can just sit back and wait for a villager to fuck up. We're so paranoid we'll swarm anyone.
Tzeentchling: Assuran and Anialos
Anialos: tzeentchling and Capfalcon
Assuran: Capfalcon and Anialos
Figgy: Capfalcon and Tzeenchling
Capfalcon: yet to answer.
!Capfalcon, I choose you!
Also, for what it's worth, I'll be travelling over the weekend at an inconvenient time (it came up after I signed up). Should have access to a computer, but I may be less talkative.
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assuran seems to be trying really hard to be ignorant, with a lot of questions that don't really lead anywhere useful.
If I've got to pick another person... I'll go with Tzneentchling for idol hunting. It's pretty weak, but it's all I've got for now.
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Yep. Because we are the worst.
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Ah well. I was going to send my daughter to space college with the money.
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