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PaperLuigi44

Veldrin wrote: »

PaperLuigi44 wrote: »

I just went from a friendly discussion about the Olympics with my dad to 'all Olympians will eventually use drugs to keep the games exciting' to 'Maybe Usain Bolt is conspiring with bookies' to 'You can't prove that air exists'.

Somebody comfort me.

Our local radio station had a drive segment about a week ago with a guest presenter basically telling everybody exactly this. Ugghhh.

I told him that it sounded like a cheesy B-grade action movie.

#pipe

PaperLuigi44 wrote: »

'You can't prove that air exists'.

The existence of air is made obvious by the shit that happens when there's none of it around.

PaperLuigi44

At that point in the conversation he was trying to make a point in the heat of the moment, he was just too stubborn to admit that it wasn't a good one.

Again, good dad, just cynical and stubborn sometimes.

Anzekay

@vivixenne Just got home from seeing Dark Knight Rises

That music.

Blake T

I would have gone with the amazing strength of air personally.

Blake T

The Black Hunter

Vivixenne wrote: »

I hate how cynical some people are about elite sport.

And these cynics are generally people who do not understand sport or have never achieved anything remotely close to elite in any sport.

I had a friend who declared all professional wrestlers and anyone who looks like them to be steroid users and wife beaters.

I tried to explain "No, some people have an honest love of gettin real big"
He said "Anyone who gets that big earns millions of dollars playing football, none of them would be a wrestler"
"How much does john cena make a year dude? not only that but what if they don't like football"

He just kept digging the hole, and he would. not. stop. smarmier, more presumptuous, more and more irrelevant as it went on, and he does it with every single argument. To some it up he says "Regardless of that..." every second sentence. Me and another friend said that all that means is "Ignoring your point entirely...". The fucker keeps arguing, on and on.

He failed miserably in the gym

LaCabra

why is he your friend, I hate him already

Anzekay

LaCabra wrote: »

why is he your friend, I hate him already

This is a question I find myself asking, or being asked, somewhat often these days.

Blake T

I am a total cynic on cycling.

Everyone is on drugs in that.

Blake T

Let me point out though.

I still like it.

Wimble

I don't understand the point of taking drugs in sports. I mean we all know winners don't take drugs so right there you are eliminating any chance of success!

Vivixenne

Anzekay wrote: »

@vivixenne Just got home from seeing Dark Knight Rises

That music.

I KNOW RIGHT

Blake T

That's just what the winners want you to think.

So you wont take drugs and be as good as them wimble.

Vivixenne

The Black Hunter wrote: »

Vivixenne wrote: »

I hate how cynical some people are about elite sport.

And these cynics are generally people who do not understand sport or have never achieved anything remotely close to elite in any sport.

I had a friend who declared all professional wrestlers and anyone who looks like them to be steroid users and wife beaters.

I tried to explain "No, some people have an honest love of gettin real big"
He said "Anyone who gets that big earns millions of dollars playing football, none of them would be a wrestler"
"How much does john cena make a year dude? not only that but what if they don't like football"

He just kept digging the hole, and he would. not. stop. smarmier, more presumptuous, more and more irrelevant as it went on, and he does it with every single argument. To some it up he says "Regardless of that..." every second sentence. Me and another friend said that all that means is "Ignoring your point entirely...". The fucker keeps arguing, on and on.

He failed miserably in the gym

Yeah I was gonna say, it just sounds like he is trying to justify his own physical failings rather than have an actual discussion.

Wimble

I will be the best of the drug free, then

the winner of the losers

the least loser

Blake T

Or maybe the most loser.

Anzekay

Vivixenne wrote: »

Anzekay wrote: »

@vivixenne Just got home from seeing Dark Knight Rises

That music.

I KNOW RIGHT

I'm trying to decide between typing up what I thought of the movie for you or just doing it in person next time there's a meetup (which we should do soon, or something!)

Gatsby

No I want to hear as well Anze!

Tweaked_Bat_

To be fair, lots of those wrestlers are taking/have taken performance enhancing drugs of some description. Generally speaking, you don't get that huge just from sheer love and dedication for getting big. Obviously some dudes are naturally bigger than others etc etc.

That doesn't stop many of them from being upstanding dudes and I respect their decisions, their work and their dedication regardless. Calling them wifebeaters is silly.

Anzekay

Well maybe if you lived over here and hung out with the cool folks in Perth you could hear it in person too, Gatsby!

....

Dark Knight Rises spoilers!

Spoiler:

Okay so I was pretty damn impressive with the whole major cast. The return cast were just as good as they have been previously (<3 Alfred). Hathaway was sublime- Viv that scene you mentioned where she just changes from Selina to catwoman was as impressive as you made it sound like it would be. I was even surprisingly impressed with the kid (Blake wasn't it? The obvious future Robin). I will admit that Bane's voice was a bit... Too jovial at times, but there was a few moments where that effect worked in their favour as it just added to the chilling vibe he gave off all the time. But Hardy's movements were pretty incredible, his posture, stance, the way he moved his hands around really added to the character.

Yeah the musical score was pretty rad. Perhaps I was paying extra attention to it because of what Viv said about it on friday, but I think I would have picked up on it regardless. The melding of the batman theme and that chant was quite remarkable.

The whole rising motif was super clever and shored up the narrative quite nicely. I didn't have any major problems with the story overall, but I've heard some other people complain about it not making sense. Personally I think the only bits that could bother me would be Bane and Talia's motives and goals being a little flimsy when in a vacuum, but considering everything from the first two movies (Begins in particular, of course) I'd say there's a lot of context there that brings it all together. I saw the ending coming (why else would they mention the autopilot when you first see the batship?), but I was actually surprised by Talia's identity. It did make sense though, since they put a lot of emphasis on the protector of the boy in the pit.

uhhh that'll do for now I guess. Overall it was a great film. I find it difficult to rank the three of them compared to each other, because honestly they're all pretty different films and I like them each for their own reasons.

The Black Hunter

Tweaked_Bat_ wrote: »

To be fair, lots of those wrestlers are taking/have taken performance enhancing drugs of some description. Generally speaking, you don't get that huge just from sheer love and dedication for getting big. Obviously some dudes are naturally bigger than others etc etc.

That doesn't stop many of them from being upstanding dudes and I respect their decisions, their work and their dedication regardless. Calling them wifebeaters is silly.

That's kind of where I settled, I changed the direction of the argument but only insofar as to make the point that people can and do build naturally, and you shouldn't talk shit about every muscled dude who pops up on TV as only being a muscle mass success because of steroids.

That Dave Fella

My old housemate was of the opinion that they just make doping legal cause he feels as if that's the next step in professional sports and if everyone can do it it'll make for more interesting events.

Vivixenne

Bloody stupid line of thinking that misses the point of sport

The Black Hunter

I do admit, I wouldn't mind seeing an event where it's just like, "How fast can a motherfucker run, really"

Blake T

That Dave Fella wrote: »

My old housemate was of the opinion that they just make doping legal cause he feels as if that's the next step in professional sports and if everyone can do it it'll make for more interesting events.

This is a dumb argument as well.

Doping was legal until the sixties, and they removed it due to the severe health risks involved with it.

Wimble

The Black Hunter wrote: »

I do admit, I wouldn't mind seeing an event where it's just like, "How fast can a motherfucker run, really"

like a tool assisted speed run in video games

he said with a wheeze while correcting his prescription glasses

That Dave Fella

Blake T wrote: »

That Dave Fella wrote: »

My old housemate was of the opinion that they just make doping legal cause he feels as if that's the next step in professional sports and if everyone can do it it'll make for more interesting events.

This is a dumb argument as well.

Doping was legal until the sixties, and they removed it due to the severe health risks involved with it.

yeh I tried to be on the side of, well if it's legal then people are going to try all kinds of shit and probably end up killing themselves

Anzekay

That Dave Fella wrote: »

Blake T wrote: »

That Dave Fella wrote: »

My old housemate was of the opinion that they just make doping legal cause he feels as if that's the next step in professional sports and if everyone can do it it'll make for more interesting events.

This is a dumb argument as well.

Doping was legal until the sixties, and they removed it due to the severe health risks involved with it.

yeh I tried to be on the side of, well if it's legal then people are going to try all kinds of shit and probably end up killing themselves

Did he then pull out the "yeah but people do that anyway already" line?

#pipe

Oh my god one of my disolvable stitches just came out THIS IS HEAVEN

Flay

Legalising drugs seems pretty silly, but it's going to be pretty interesting to see what happens to the Olympics once artificial limbs surpass the real thing.

That Dave Fella

I remember reading somewhere that people were arguing that people with prosthetics are at an advantage to people without and they shouldn't be allowed compete.

Blake T

I'm having massive,I want to watch the godfather urges again.

Mr Fuzzbutt

That Dave Fella wrote: »

I remember reading somewhere that people were arguing that people with prosthetics are at an advantage to people without and they shouldn't be allowed compete.

What about stuff like those full-body streamlined swimsuits?

Gatsby

Welp, it just hit me. My 10 year old nephew is leaving to go back to his home in Thailand on Tuesday, and I'm probably not going to see him again for some tremendous period of time.

Chances of me being emotionally shaky tomorrow are high.

Blake T

Aww Julian.

On the upside it should be good for him to be with his mother as opposed to your brother.

Plus I'm sure you can xbox live him.

#pipe

Mr Fuzzbutt wrote: »

That Dave Fella wrote: »

I remember reading somewhere that people were arguing that people with prosthetics are at an advantage to people without and they shouldn't be allowed compete.

What about stuff like those full-body streamlined swimsuits?

I believe those are regulated now? Like you're only allowed certain lengths

Blake T

That Dave Fella wrote: »

I remember reading somewhere that people were arguing that people with prosthetics are at an advantage to people without and they shouldn't be allowed compete.

Speaking of this.

I think this is one of my favourite ted talks ever.

http://www.ted.com/talks/aimee_mullins_prosthetic_aesthetics.html

Seriously, watch it.

Gatsby

Blake T wrote: »

Aww Julian.

On the upside it should be good for him to be with his mother as opposed to your brother.

Plus I'm sure you can xbox live him.

Ehh, his mum ain't the best but his grandparents seem nice and he likes them, so at least he'll be with them.

And Thailand unfortunately has no Microsoft/Xbox Live support, I'll be keeping his 360 and HDD safe from my brother here, but I've taught him how to use email and he might start using Steam.

That Dave Fella

#pipe wrote: »

Mr Fuzzbutt wrote: »

That Dave Fella wrote: »

I remember reading somewhere that people were arguing that people with prosthetics are at an advantage to people without and they shouldn't be allowed compete.

What about stuff like those full-body streamlined swimsuits?

I believe those are regulated now? Like you're only allowed certain lengths

yeh I think they changed the rules to disallow some of them because they were giving too much of an advantage