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[PATV] Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - Extra Credits Season 4, Ep. 23: Games You Might Not Have Tried: 16

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  • SnakeEyeJJSnakeEyeJJ Registered User
    Heya! I just thought I'd like to put something down here to ask for a game genre I haven't played a lot of, but would absolutely love to get my teeth into. I reeeeaaally want to learn some of the clasics and best of the Text based RPG genre. You know, the ones like zork etc where the enviroment is sculpted from words, not pixels. My stepdad told me about what sounded like an excellent game of Star Trek captain, where you received print outs of damage, enemy positioning, co-ordinates etc and had to do certain actions to save your ship and crew. But, I'd love to see an episode on this, and so, if you get the time after your PS2 section, and if you don't want to fit it in the PC section, I'd love to see an episode on this. Love you guys, have a good summer.

  • masmith408masmith408 Registered User
    Sega Saturn Games that were awesome:
    1. Dragon Force (Still my favorite Strategy RPG of all time.)
    2. Albert Odyssey: Legend of Eldean (Fantastic RPG that would be right at home on the SNES)
    3. Guardian Heroes (I nearly crapped my pants when I saw they were bring this to Xbox Live. Beat 'em up with a branching story and RPG leveling.)
    4. Legend of Oasis (Arabian themed Zelda with a code to play co-op.)
    5. Shining Wisdom (Zelda styled game in the Shining Force universe.)

    16-bit games I loved:
    1.Herzog Zwei (grand daddy of the Action RTS. Its kind of like Command and Conquer if you could fly around and drop into battle as a giant robot/plane. I think a couple people mentioned this already.)
    2. Rock & Roll Racing (RC Pro Am in Space, made by Blizzard with Black Sabbath in the Soundtrack!)
    3. Sparkster (Action Platformer. You are a possum with a sword and a jet pack. The game has more levels if the difficulty is set higher.)
    4. Super Baseball 2020 (I don't generally play sports games, but this game is great. There's robots and landmines in the outfield.)

  • RiotfellowRiotfellow Registered User
    Speaking of sub-categories, I'm reminded of a great sub game called Deep Fighter for Dreamcast and PC.
    What makes the game stand out to me, is that it blends the action with a few puzzles and some awesome bossfights (including a huge mantis and a jellyfish). That way you'll never feel like you've been doing the same thing over and over. Add to that some pretty decent live-action cutscenes (like in the Command and Conquer games) and you've got a unique game which (sadly) no one seems to have even heard about.

  • StevieCStevieC Registered User new member
    One game you should mention if you do another episode on 16 bit games is a 16-bit game released, in 2010. No I am NOT kidding. It's called Pier Solar and the Great Architects, and it came out for the Sega Mega Drive (Sega Genesis in the US & Canada) in December of 2010. It was made as a labor of love by members of the forums at the retrogaming website Eidolon's Inn and with the exception of two Swedes, every person working on the game was from a different country. A truly international dev team, and the game is enormous. I pre-ordered it, got before New Year's Eve 2010/2011, have been playing it regularly ever since, and I still have YET to finish the game! It is amazing.

  • Aircalibur421Aircalibur421 Registered User
    I'd really love to see a N64 era series. There are a number of games on that platform that no one ever gives a second look.

  • StrikerboltStrikerbolt Registered User
    Here's a 16-bit game that doesn't get a lot of love: Lufia and the Fortress of Doom. It's a turn-based RPG of what I consider to be an epic storyline and some innovative (for its time) gameplay elements.

    Also, one of the few games I've played with cursed weapons, and store further into the game where you can purchase rare gear you accidentally sold.

  • wariwulfwariwulf Registered User
    How about some love for the fighting genre. A game for the SNES published by Namco that foreshadowed Soul Edge on many aspects. I'm talking of Weaponlord. It brought lots of new ideas and had depth, good art and sound.

  • grovberggrovberg Registered User regular
    This list covers a wide-range of game types. From JRPG to strategy RPG to exploration RPG to action RPG, this list has something for everyone.

    Sarcasm encased in love.

  • lordshelllordshell Registered User regular
    Sega Genesis. Master of Monsters. Wasted more hours on that thing . . .

  • TJF588TJF588 Florida, United StatesRegistered User
    Have heard (or "read") "Shadowrun" and "Terranigma" before, but haven't looked into them, and read up on U.N. Squadron at Socksmakepeoplesexy.Net (link: http://socksmakepeoplesexy.net/index.php?a=snesshooter01).

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  • NotoriusBENNotoriusBEN Registered User regular
    Dammit, you mentioned most of the SNES gems I'd tell you to look at.
    Here's a few others:
    Secret of Mana
    Metal Marines
    Kirby's Dream Course (yea, it's gimicky golf, but to get gold ratings, its mini golf on steroids)

  • AppleShyAppleShy Registered User
    Do the PS1/Saturn/N64 era! Please! :D

    Also, I'd love to see retro PC as well :3

  • spyfire242spyfire242 Registered User
    I find it amusing how he says no PC games this week, but in actuality the easiest way to play any of the games mentioned is to emulate them via PC. Not to say its impossible otherwise, but tracking down an old console if you don't already have one let alone the games for them certainly wouldn't be a cake walk.

  • deanchil22deanchil22 Registered User
    Here are my Under the Radar suggestions:
    Monster Rancher (Playstation era): A brainier, more intimate mon game. Deciding on food and training can be tedious but it's worth it to take down a Golem with a Pixie.
    Sakura Wars: So Long My Love (PS2): The first of this major JRPG/dating sim hybrid series to be released in America. Didn't receive a lot of attention, but deserves it. Whimsical and tons of dialogue trees for all. It also has Broadway actresses fighting demons in steampunk mecha. Enough said.
    Galaxy Angel: Think Sakura Wars...IN SPACE. Is more of the strict "visual novel" variety but has surprisingly fleshed out characters and a well written storyline. It's also got simple (but fun) space ship RTS combat. Enough said. The game is in Japanese, but if you get a hold of a PC copy, you can download an English patch made by fans.

  • NATO_chrisjmNATO_chrisjm Registered User
    90's PC : X-COM: UFO Defense & Total Annihilation. X-COM has a reboot very soon and has some of the best tactical gameplay of the time. TA still has a strong modding community, it also represented a big leap in RTS technology what with models over sprites, realistic topography, true line of sight and projectile simulation.

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  • What?!?! No Secret of Mana of Secret of Evermore? Eh, future episodes. ^^ Also, Demon's Crest was a nice game as was Illusion of Gaia - I would highly recommend both.

    Well, at least I can say I've played U.N. Squadron. That was actually a pretty cool game.

    Kainyrenegade101
  • PhoenixcaptainPhoenixcaptain Registered User
    New Horizons is one of my alltime favorite games. I still have my notebook that I used as a Captain's Log to track my gameplay, what I discovered, etc. E.V.O. is another absolutely amazing game. OMG thank you for mentioning Warsong. I played it 15 years ago and forgot the name of it :( So glad I know it now.

    And for the games missed, my #1 RPG story of all time: Lufia 2. Fantastic RPG, great replay value, memorable characters, Ancient Dungeon :D, and the ending... cannot say enough about the ending. I challenge anyone to not cry at it.

  • efestionefestion Registered User
    Where is Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger one of the best RPG for SNES

    Kainyrenegade101
  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    I don't think those games fall under the heading of "games you might not have tried"

  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    Awesome, you remembered EVO :D One of my favorite SNES games. (still waiting on my Virtual Console release Nintendo! You've put a bunch of other Square & Enix titles up there already)

    If you ever do a PC/DOS one, my I recommend Zeliard:
    http://www.mobygames.com/game/zeliard

    Made by GameArts of all people (I believe for some weird Japanese computer, but ported to DOS & translated by Sierra), it's sort of a Metroidvania before such a thing really existed. Sword-slashing platforming with RPG aspects like leveling, shops, spells, weapons/armor, items, etc. And in Metroidvania fashion, there are items/upgrades that help you access new areas (not as much as modern Metroidvanias, but basic stuff - a cloak that lets you enter a fire area, boots that let you climb up slopes, etc). Also a fantastic soundtrack and pretty damn gorgeous graphics for DOS.

    Edit: So nostalgic, I was searching around youtube and came across this:


    I always played with just Sound Blaster 16, but holy crap Roland MT-32! See, when I say fantastic soundtrack, I'm talking about this. (this isn't the best gameplay video but seriously, that soundtrack!)

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  • Carole_VaudryCarole_Vaudry Registered User regular
    Thanks for the Terragnima advice! :D

    You can find my game reviews and articles on Gametrender: http://www.gametrender.net/
  • KainyKainy Registered User regular
    I have played nearly all of those games! E.V.O. and Terranigma in particular are games that I'd recommend HIGHLY. I'll have to look up the rest that I haven't had a chance to go through, yet.

    And I MIGHT be a fan of U.N Squadron...

    Also...
    I think it was a bit of an oversight that they mentioned "Terranigma" without mentioning that it was part of the greater "Soul Blazer" trilogy. "Soul Blazer," "Illusion of Gaia," and "Terranigma" were all tied together, and they were all fantastic. "Terranigma" was the last of them, and since it wasn't released in the US, I agree that it was probably the only one fit for this list, but with how great its predecessors were, I'm amazed they didn't even get honorable mention.

    They did mention this. Quintet was the developer that made those games, hence "the last of the Quintet games"

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  • MetalzFishMetalzFish Registered User new member
    SHADOWRUN SHADOWRUN SHADOWRUN SHADOWRUN SHADOWRUN SHADOWRUN! It amazes me how that game didn't become more popular.

    lordhobanrenegade101
  • robuztrobuzt Registered User
    No Amiga-love. European gaming history getting screwed again.

  • smrtssmrts Registered User
    "Out of This World", or depending on region "Another World"

  • ZombieAladdinZombieAladdin Registered User regular
    What about Live-a-Live? It may have been an RPG from Squaresoft, but it was the one that just got shoved under by Chrono Trigger and the FInal Fantasies of its day to where no official translation exists (for any language). The game is told in seven chapters, each with a different time period and a different narrative genre, such as a prehistoric comedy, a feudal Japanese thriller, a western suspense, and so forth, and each even have a different art style.

  • ZombieAladdinZombieAladdin Registered User regular
    P.S. Ah, it looks like I wasn't the only one who suggested the game. I suppose it's proof that it's definitely worth checking out if you get the chance to.

  • Not sure if anyone's mentioned it, but I have a soft spot for the Lost Vikings. Nice little puzzle platformer with dumb jokes.

  • BugsinspaceBugsinspace Registered User regular
    Every time I talk about retro gaming with someone I bring up Terranigma and Lufia 2, and have felt that I was pretty much alone in knowing about these games. You lovely commenter peoples have restored my faith in the better... no, best side of humanity (read: People who love the SNES).
    How about a "games that can make you cry" episode? You'll be able to mention Terranigma again, such fun!
    Btw, has anyone noticed that the majority of people who comment on EC... How do I put this?They're betraying everything the internet stands for! Some people are downright NICE! It's eery...

  • goonshinegoonshine Registered User
    Some of these have been mentioned before, but:

    Metal Warriors - A surprisingly unknown side-view mech game, despite being made by Lucasarts. The highlight of the game is the huge diversity of the robots that you can pilot and the sparse but good story. The real treat to this game is the amazing two player deathmatches - no one mech is a win button, and as the fight stretches on, yours gets more and more beat up--do you pop out and hunt for a new one and expose your pilot to a possible instant death, or do you run around in your crippled machine, hoping a med pack will spawn?

    Metal Marines - Great base-building / tactical war game. You balance energy and monetary needs to build up your missiles and mechs for attacks on the enemy base, while they are constantly pounding you with attacks as well. Involves a good deal of thinking and some strategic gambles but also enough luck to keep you at the edge of your seat.

    Zombies Ate My Neighbors - Another Lucasarts game that doesn't get mentioned often but is a lot of fun. You play as a teenager trying to fight off zombies, vampires, werewolves and an evil scientist. The off-kilter world filled with old monster movie villains is combined with some very nice level design. The sheer variety of weapons means that some will languish in your inventory, but almost all have some creative uses, such as throwing "silverware" at werewolves to kill them, or dumping soda grenades on flaming imps. The music is also amazing!

    Shadowrun (Genesis) - If you are a fan of Shadowrun and are a fan of 16-bit era games, it can be hard to decide which version of Shadowrun was your favorite. After all, the SNES version had the better atmosphere, better story, and more compelling characters...but the Genesis version is one of the truest adaptations of ANY pen and paper RPG. It nails the classes, guns, hacking, magic and corporations that are a hallmark of Shadowrun, and it wraps it all up in a nice sprawling plot that takes you all over Seattle 2050. The greatest fault of the Genesis version is that they translated the Shadowrun world too well - you have to complete run after run to get your skills and abilities to a decent level, and ultimately hacking is the only way to make decent money. If you do pick up the Genesis Shadowrun, be sure to grab a guide from Gamefaqs as well - the first few hours of the game can be incredibly frustrating without a plan.

  • TofystedethTofystedeth veni, veneri, vamoosi Registered User regular
    Metal Warriors was a lot of fun. The mechs were so diverse. The was the rolly one, the spider one that would walk on walls, the Prometheus that was very strong but couldn't even jump.

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  • the_Simianthe_Simian Registered User
    More 16 bit titles that are slightly less known today:
    Treasure Hunter G
    Seiken Dentesu 3
    Bahamut Lagoon
    Out Of This World
    BlackThorne
    Demon's Crest (I thought everyone knew this one, but apparently not)

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  • saganasagana Registered User
    Terranigma was one of the best game i ever play, the other's game in the list are good too! I hope in another video like this in the future.

  • gtademgtadem Registered User regular
    I don't know what the emulation hubbub is all about. You don't think they knew that talking about 16-bit games in 2012 would lead to emulation talk?

    Wanted to throw my hat into the ring on the wishlist for future episode by voting for the playstation. I would recommend King's Field, though the Souls installments probably has made that no longer quite as unknown. Though I will say that despite being lesser graphics, the original KF (in US) is the best KF to date. Both KF2 and KF4 were far more linear than KF and KF has a soundtrack that rivals KF4 easily.

    To keep it strictly might not have tried for PS, I vote for Rally Cross. It is unlike any other racing game out there (including its own sequels) in that it has independent suspension, the ability to drive backwards, and the ability to be upside down. If you end up upside down, you literally have to hit the shoulder buttons to rock yourself back to right side up. Half the tracks were hilly and such and it made for some crazy stunts. A buddy of mine and I used to play cat and mouse all the time and never bothered actually racing. I actually missed my first day at some minimum wage job because I was having too much fun playing the DEMO of Rally Cross.

  • KexructKexruct Registered User new member
    I'm hoping they'll mention the Zero Escape series in the next GYMNHT video. Seriously, everyone should play those two games.

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