On the Rain-Slick Precipice

Knob

i just noticed the sword from the cover of the year 2 book is hanging on the wall of the detective agency

Silmaril

Thank you Knob.

I knew I recognised it, but couldn't place the fucker.

Keith

I would much prefer it in the 2D style ala Monkey Island 3

but you can't always get what you want

so I'll settle for some eyes that aren't freaky as shit

Si Senor

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e98/nighteenight/bleedingeyes.gif

FAQ

I think Tycho's expression looks great, Gabe's, not so much

TyrantCow

lol lol popeye

Defender

I totally agree with Druhim; fans are fucking idiots who think they know what a good game would be, but that's only because they've never actually tried to put one together or even given a good deal of thought to how it would actually play. Listening to fans is stupid; there's a reason that the guys who design games for a living have a lot of industry experience and get paid a lot of money.

That said, amateurs can, and do, produce good work. Aeon/DOTA Warcraft maps, Counter-Strike, and the ReaperBot are all good examples of this. But that level of talent is very rare in amateur circles.

Keith

I'm not saying what the game should be, I'm saying what it should look like


I'm not expecting high quality out of this. But that's not even low quality. There have been free fan-made mods of games that look better than that.

The 2D in the beginning of the trailer was perfect. It was high quality, and it animated well. Even if it was like Paper Mario (although not with the paper aspect) as a 2D on 3D game it would look so much better

edit: also, that's not my mouse cursor. that was in the trailer

Si Senor

Defender wrote: »

I totally agree with Druhim; fans are fucking idiots who think they know what a good game would be, but that's only because they've never actually tried to put one together or even given a good deal of thought to how it would actually play. Listening to fans is stupid; there's a reason that the guys who design games for a living have a lot of industry experience and get paid a lot of money.

That said, amateurs can, and do, produce good work. Aeon/DOTA Warcraft maps, Counter-Strike, and the ReaperBot are all good examples of this. But that level of talent is very rare in amateur circles.

agreed. also, people generally don't know what they want, so basing your game around what they say it should be will lead to disaster, as you so rightly say.

Jordyn

I'm just gonna wait til it's done and I play it for the 10 minutes I will be able to play it before I get sick, and then just watch Framling play through the rest of it, and then I'll say if I thought it was good.

Defender

Keith wrote: »

I'm not saying what the game should be, I'm saying what it should look like


I'm not expecting high quality out of this. But that's not even low quality. There have been free fan-made mods of games that look better than that.

The 2D in the beginning of the trailer was perfect. It was high quality, and it animated well. Even if it was like Paper Mario (although not with the paper aspect) as a 2D on 3D game it would look so much better

edit: also, that's not my mouse cursor. that was in the trailer

From a graphics perspective, I really just keep shouting this in my head, so I'm going to write it out.

YOU DON'T PUT "REALISTIC" LIGHTING ON CARTOON MODELS

WHAT THE FUCK

YOU NEED CARTOON LIGHTING FOR THAT

If you want to use realistic lighting, you use realistic textures so that the two elements complement each other. Putting realistic lighting on a cartoony texture makes people see the lighting and expect realism, but then the texture is perfectly smooth and solid-colored, which is jarringly unnatural. What you need to do, as a quick fix, is make the light cut off at a certain angle, and be fully-lit above that angle. This gives a clear line between the "lit" side and the "unlit" side and at least that way the brain doesn't expect realism and then get cartoon.

Rhino

Hey.

Anyone see this yet:
http://kotaku.com/gaming/clips/clip-first-penny-arcade-game-footage-244698.php

??

I was going to create a new thread.

oh, btw - love gabes side burns [in the 2d view at start of the trailer] <3 <3 <3 <3

heheh oh and fruit fucker. I'd juice it.

FAQ

Rhino wrote: »

Hey.

Anyone see this yet:
http://kotaku.com/gaming/clips/clip-first-penny-arcade-game-footage-244698.php

??

I was going to create a new thread.

oh, btw - love gabes side burns <3 <3 <3 <3

heheh oh and fruit fucker. I'd juice it.

come on now, seriously?

Si Senor

let's laugh with him, not at him

TyrantCow

Someone make the fruit fucker gif so everyone can make that they're avatar, already.

Davoid

No, none of us had seen it. Thank you.

Si Senor

TyrantCow wrote: »

Someone make the fruit fucker gif so everyone can make that they're avatar, already.

they did. it just wasn't so good because the background is scrolling along too so it all sort of looks confusing.

Defender

they're

TyrantCow

there

Davoid

their?

Anonymous Robot

thurr

Druhim

Cher?

Xaquin

Four-yaks-in-a-bog?

TankHammer

Fork-racks-onna-Bob?

Xaquin

Laxative-log?

Keith

ending this

ElectricBoogaloo

pending kiss

Weaver

awisughaiygfseyigfuiej

TankHammer

I wonder who the villain will be in this game. What do you think guys?

Keith

there was a picture of Charles wearing pilot goggles in their office

so he's a friend

HitScan

Think Clamari, only older, and evil-er. Just a guess.

JoeUser

Kantankeris wrote: »

I wonder who the villain will be in this game. What do you think guys?

Jack Thompson

SniperGuy

Uber Fruit Fucker? The Apple Guy? Cthulu himself?

DarkHawke

I'm thinking Cthulu ultimately (although I'm not sure if Lovecraft is in the public domain yet, so it may be something else. Wthulu, perhaps), but in ep 1 we're probably talking cultists or something.

Maybe suspiciously grey haired cultists called Hompson.

Garthor

So apparently Gabe made a comment about the graphics in the G&T thread.

Not here, though.

Weaver

Gabriel wrote: »

Hey guys, I just wanted to hopefully clarify some of the stuff in that trailer.



First of all, we probably should not have dropped that trailer just yet. Our 3D stuff just isn’t ready.





Okay, with that said. I’m glad we can all pretty much agree the 2D intro is cool. It shows off the detective agency that Gabe and Tycho work at and gives some clues about the world. I like it.



The decision to add the 3D stuff was made at the last minute. We were afraid people might think the entire game was 2D. We put the 3D stuff in there to show that we intend to create a 3D game. It was just way too soon to show that stuff. There are a lot of effects we have planned like cell shading that just aren’t in yet. There’s still a ton of work to do in order to really define the look of the game.



Honestly the feedback we’re getting here is super valuable so I appreciate that. I can also assure you that I would never allow the game to ship if I didn’t think it looked cool. I’m with you guys. The 3D stuff we have to show now is not up to par. I also know that the people have working on it are good people and they can do this. We’ll get it there.

TankHammer

I have the patience of a saint. So however long they need to get this right is okay by me.

trentsteel

I really can't wait to play this. I'm glad they aren't going for a next-gen look.

I wonder if there will be items to collect, etc? Shops to buy from? That sort of game?

Druhim

trentsteel wrote: »

I really can't wait to play this. I'm glad they aren't going for a next-gen look.

I wonder if there will be items to collect, etc? Shops to buy from? That sort of game?

Didn't you read the paragraph where they talked about getting items and equipment by raping animals?

trentsteel

Druhim wrote: »

trentsteel wrote: »

I really can't wait to play this. I'm glad they aren't going for a next-gen look.

I wonder if there will be items to collect, etc? Shops to buy from? That sort of game?

Didn't you read the paragraph where they talked about getting items and equipment by raping animals?

No. I only read two pages of this thread and wha-